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« Reply #13560 on: November 02, 2018, 06:25:05 PM »
The only thing that led to the incident was the thug who thought it was okay to throw the coin, against a background of years of abuse NL and others have received in Scotland. Basically, "know your place tarrier scum."
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« Reply #13561 on: November 02, 2018, 07:07:21 PM »
Lennon was an ok taig playing for N.I. until he signed for Celtic.....but I suppose Billy Boys will be Billy Boys😡

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« Reply #13562 on: November 02, 2018, 07:35:01 PM »
Lennon was an ok taig playing for N.I. until he signed for Celtic.....but I suppose Billy Boys will be Billy Boys😡
Booed by a handful of idiots.  During the same match the fans sang "There's only one Neil Lennon".  You do realise not every NI fan is a Rangers fan?

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« Reply #13563 on: November 02, 2018, 08:16:28 PM »
Lennon was an ok taig playing for N.I. until he signed for Celtic.....but I suppose Billy Boys will be Billy Boys😡
Booed by a handful of idiots.  During the same match the fans sang "There's only one Neil Lennon".  You do realise not every NI fan is a Rangers fan?
I think you'll find it was more than just a handful...if it had of been he wouldn't have been forced to walk away.

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« Reply #13564 on: November 02, 2018, 08:18:27 PM »
Lennon was an ok taig playing for N.I. until he signed for Celtic.....but I suppose Billy Boys will be Billy Boys😡
Booed by a handful of idiots.  During the same match the fans sang "There's only one Neil Lennon".  You do realise not every NI fan is a Rangers fan?

Quite possible, but I think you would be hard pressed to find one who is a Celtic fan.

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« Reply #13565 on: November 02, 2018, 08:50:39 PM »
Michaelg, I always like to read your posts as often they are refreshingly moderate and give a different perspective to many on this board. That would normally give you considerable kudos and respect which is important for your views to be appreciated . However on this occasion either you completely lack insight or “the mask has slipped” and you actually have a blinkered sectarian view of this.
I would appeal to your intelligence and decency for you to actually walk in NL’s shoes for a minute rather than rush to your keyboard to justify your disgraceful contention that he brings this on himself.
It’s quite clear what the issue is here ( evidenced by the absence of hatred when he was with Leicester and Bolton) .
Please read his very reasonable intelligent and fair  statement and address the “elephant in the room”. This is anti-Irish racism in its crudest form. Fenians/taigs/paddies are ok as long as they don’t show evidence of a preference for an Irish as opposed to British culture . That’s the mistake Neil made when he signed for Celtic, Anton Rogan met the same vitriol. More recently Paddy McCourt has been treated better by NI fans and there’s no doubt the IFA and the majority of NI supporters have no truck with this nonsense.
The treatment of NL over several years now is absolutely disgraceful . His well documented issues with depression make him even more vulnerable.
He’s of short stature and had to work hard to succeed on the field with his aggression , determination and motivation enabling  him to punch above his weight, and he took those successful values into management. He will not be walked over and last time I looked , that’s not a crime. However it antagonises opponents and supporters and there’s no doubt he transgresses at times in the same way that klopp, Ferguson, Mccoist, wenger , mourinho have lost it at times. This does not mean however that he brings vile abuse, threats, assaults and bullying on himself.
Managers have a duty not to inflame crowds, but several of them have done so.
One very simple question which hopefully you have the emotional intelligence to ask yourself micHaelg ....if Arsene wenger , after one of his transgressions got hit by a coin from the crowd , would u be rushing to the Arsenal thread on this board , to continually argue that he brought it on himself?
NL continues to be a victim of racism( and he has clearly stated this is how he feels), And many Rangers players have Been similarly victimised, Because thugs get support and solace from those not prepared to call it out.
Evil can only triumph when good men say nothing.
I think you’re probably a decent lad Michaelg and Tbf you probably don’t even realise you are giving solace to racists, but many will feel that’s exactly what you’re doing. He got hit by a coin from a crowd which either had given or tolerated racist abuse, including death threats. It can’t be clearer than that. To blame NL cupping his ears for these attack’s beggars belief. Please Take a look in the mirror and reflect before replying.
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« Reply #13566 on: November 02, 2018, 10:31:36 PM »
6th Sam, that's perfect and 100% accurate. Michaelg I haven't had many discussions with you and have read a lot of your posts. I too have had respect for you but tbh you have as 6th SAM put it lost my respect (doubt you'll care much about that) or your true colours have appeared...Neil Lennon seems to have that effect on certain individuals...
I still challenge anyone to give me a valid reason for hating that man?
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« Reply #13567 on: November 03, 2018, 09:19:37 AM »
You are all skirting around the fact that there is a toxic sectarian element both within the sections of IFA and the NI fans which spills over into the support of Rangers and Hearts. It has been debated ad nauseam on here but it won't change unless the SFA and IFA have the balls to address it.

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« Reply #13568 on: November 03, 2018, 09:25:01 AM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. He’s pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesn’t take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.
Not sure how what I stated can be construed as disgraceful.  I am not condoing the sc**bag who threw the coin in any way.  I was simply stating that, in my opinion, Lennon's actions led to the incident. 
As for your second point, give an example of a "tame taig", as you put it.  High profile Irish catholics in football such as BR and MON, who are forthright in their views when the situation requires it, don't get the same attention that Lennon NL receives.  There is a difference between "singling people out" and being antagonisitic and bringing attention to yourself.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been on the recieving end before. I am acquainted with a few catholics who played Irish League for so called Protestant teams who have stated that the sectarianism from their own fans was as vile as any from opponents. NI soccer is toxic.

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« Reply #13569 on: November 03, 2018, 09:59:05 AM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. He’s pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesn’t take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.
Not sure how what I stated can be construed as disgraceful.  I am not condoing the sc**bag who threw the coin in any way.  I was simply stating that, in my opinion, Lennon's actions led to the incident. 
As for your second point, give an example of a "tame taig", as you put it.  High profile Irish catholics in football such as BR and MON, who are forthright in their views when the situation requires it, don't get the same attention that Lennon NL receives.  There is a difference between "singling people out" and being antagonisitic and bringing attention to yourself.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been on the recieving end before. I am acquainted with a few catholics who played Irish League for so called Protestant teams who have stated that the sectarianism from their own fans was as vile as any from opponents. NI soccer is toxic.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been two of the most popular NI players in recent years.  Why don't you actually attend a match to experience the "toxic" atmosphere.

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« Reply #13570 on: November 03, 2018, 11:21:39 AM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. He’s pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesn’t take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.
Not sure how what I stated can be construed as disgraceful.  I am not condoing the sc**bag who threw the coin in any way.  I was simply stating that, in my opinion, Lennon's actions led to the incident. 
As for your second point, give an example of a "tame taig", as you put it.  High profile Irish catholics in football such as BR and MON, who are forthright in their views when the situation requires it, don't get the same attention that Lennon NL receives.  There is a difference between "singling people out" and being antagonisitic and bringing attention to yourself.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been on the recieving end before. I am acquainted with a few catholics who played Irish League for so called Protestant teams who have stated that the sectarianism from their own fans was as vile as any from opponents. NI soccer is toxic.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been two of the most popular NI players in recent years.  Why don't you actually attend a match to experience the "toxic" atmosphere.
Why would I, sure the union flags and GSTQ are hardly a welcome for me. Not to mention the No Surrender clearly heard on TV. I freely accept that it is not all NI or Rangers fans for that matter. But you cannot deny that there is a significant number and the IFA are not willing to tackle it.

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« Reply #13571 on: November 03, 2018, 11:37:05 AM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. He’s pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesn’t take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.
Not sure how what I stated can be construed as disgraceful.  I am not condoing the sc**bag who threw the coin in any way.  I was simply stating that, in my opinion, Lennon's actions led to the incident. 
As for your second point, give an example of a "tame taig", as you put it.  High profile Irish catholics in football such as BR and MON, who are forthright in their views when the situation requires it, don't get the same attention that Lennon NL receives.  There is a difference between "singling people out" and being antagonisitic and bringing attention to yourself.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been on the recieving end before. I am acquainted with a few catholics who played Irish League for so called Protestant teams who have stated that the sectarianism from their own fans was as vile as any from opponents. NI soccer is toxic.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been two of the most popular NI players in recent years.  Why don't you actually attend a match to experience the "toxic" atmosphere.
Why would I, sure the union flags and GSTQ are hardly a welcome for me. Not to mention the No Surrender clearly heard on TV. I freely accept that it is not all NI or Rangers fans for that matter. But you cannot deny that there is a significant number and the IFA are not willing to tackle it.
What are the IFA not willing to tackle?  The NS chant?  Quite hard to address to be fair.  In my opinion, there should be a NI specific anthem, but I would imagine the support would be fairly spilt down the middle on the issue.  Were GSTQ not played, would you go?   

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« Reply #13572 on: November 03, 2018, 12:10:15 PM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. He’s pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesn’t take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.
Not sure how what I stated can be construed as disgraceful.  I am not condoing the sc**bag who threw the coin in any way.  I was simply stating that, in my opinion, Lennon's actions led to the incident. 
As for your second point, give an example of a "tame taig", as you put it.  High profile Irish catholics in football such as BR and MON, who are forthright in their views when the situation requires it, don't get the same attention that Lennon NL receives.  There is a difference between "singling people out" and being antagonisitic and bringing attention to yourself.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been on the recieving end before. I am acquainted with a few catholics who played Irish League for so called Protestant teams who have stated that the sectarianism from their own fans was as vile as any from opponents. NI soccer is toxic.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been two of the most popular NI players in recent years.  Why don't you actually attend a match to experience the "toxic" atmosphere.
Why would I, sure the union flags and GSTQ are hardly a welcome for me. Not to mention the No Surrender clearly heard on TV. I freely accept that it is not all NI or Rangers fans for that matter. But you cannot deny that there is a significant number and the IFA are not willing to tackle it.
What are the IFA not willing to tackle?  The NS chant?  Quite hard to address to be fair.  In my opinion, there should be a NI specific anthem, but I would imagine the support would be fairly spilt down the middle on the issue.  Were GSTQ not played, would you go?

I wouldnt go, even if it was the most tranquil place on earth, the main reason being i am not Northern Irish, i am Irish so i have no interest in going to support a country i feel no affiliation to.

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« Reply #13573 on: November 03, 2018, 04:12:42 PM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. He’s pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesn’t take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.
Not sure how what I stated can be construed as disgraceful.  I am not condoing the sc**bag who threw the coin in any way.  I was simply stating that, in my opinion, Lennon's actions led to the incident. 
As for your second point, give an example of a "tame taig", as you put it.  High profile Irish catholics in football such as BR and MON, who are forthright in their views when the situation requires it, don't get the same attention that Lennon NL receives.  There is a difference between "singling people out" and being antagonisitic and bringing attention to yourself.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been on the recieving end before. I am acquainted with a few catholics who played Irish League for so called Protestant teams who have stated that the sectarianism from their own fans was as vile as any from opponents. NI soccer is toxic.
Paddy McCourt and Niall Maginn have been two of the most popular NI players in recent years.  Why don't you actually attend a match to experience the "toxic" atmosphere.
Why would I, sure the union flags and GSTQ are hardly a welcome for me. Not to mention the No Surrender clearly heard on TV. I freely accept that it is not all NI or Rangers fans for that matter. But you cannot deny that there is a significant number and the IFA are not willing to tackle it.
What are the IFA not willing to tackle?  The NS chant?  Quite hard to address to be fair.  In my opinion, there should be a NI specific anthem, but I would imagine the support would be fairly spilt down the middle on the issue.  Were GSTQ not played, would you go?
To be fair no, I don't support NI as a team nor do I play soccer. It is the expectation that those Nationalists who do go or play just have to suck it up, sport for all should not be divisive. Had I been brought up in a society where my national was not suppressed and sport was neutral then I probably would have a different view. In my defence I do not believe ANBh should be played for Irish Rugby given that some players are Unionist.

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« Reply #13574 on: November 03, 2018, 04:52:03 PM »
I think the last two results just show how far ahead of the rest of Scotland we actually are.