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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #13545 on: November 02, 2018, 07:29:02 AM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. Heís pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesnít take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.

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« Reply #13546 on: November 02, 2018, 07:44:19 AM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. Heís pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesnít take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #13547 on: November 02, 2018, 08:42:40 AM »
Tynecastle just reeks of sectarianism, a horrible place thatíll be silenced on Sunday when Celtic come to town!!

We are at home.... and its tomorrow lol

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« Reply #13548 on: November 02, 2018, 09:19:59 AM »
The first part I got right!!

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« Reply #13549 on: November 02, 2018, 09:56:59 AM »
I think his agent said it's to do with he's an Irish catholic who played for Celtic. The croppy, like Mc Clean won't lie down.

Call it out for what it is and stop hiding behind 'he brings it on himself, it's all his fault etc waffle. It's sectarian - pure and simple.

As someone else alluded to, Jose M run and slides up and down the line, Klopp of Liverpool engages is the run and fist pumps but no coins ever get thrown at them.





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« Reply #13550 on: November 02, 2018, 10:58:21 AM »
I think his agent said it's to do with he's an Irish catholic who played for Celtic. The croppy, like Mc Clean won't lie down.

Call it out for what it is and stop hiding behind 'he brings it on himself, it's all his fault etc waffle. It's sectarian - pure and simple.

As someone else alluded to, Jose M run and slides up and down the line, Klopp of Liverpool engages is the run and fist pumps but no coins ever get thrown at them.

Haven't seen Mourinho goading the opposition when they've had a goal disallowed or Klopp doing the same?

It is possible for Neil Lennon to be d**khead who's pushing things too far and also for Hearts fans to be sectarian bigots as well. They're not mutually exclusive.

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« Reply #13551 on: November 02, 2018, 11:22:59 AM »
Strangely, the media, Scottish football commentators and fellow managers all are pretty much unanimous in their condemnation of the thug who threw the coin and in solidarity with NL. Some however, continue with their agendas.

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« Reply #13552 on: November 02, 2018, 11:37:09 AM »
I think his agent said it's to do with he's an Irish catholic who played for Celtic. The croppy, like Mc Clean won't lie down.

Call it out for what it is and stop hiding behind 'he brings it on himself, it's all his fault etc waffle. It's sectarian - pure and simple.

As someone else alluded to, Jose M run and slides up and down the line, Klopp of Liverpool engages is the run and fist pumps but no coins ever get thrown at them.

Haven't seen Mourinho goading the opposition when they've had a goal disallowed or Klopp doing the same?


It is possible for Neil Lennon to be d**khead who's pushing things too far and also for Hearts fans to be sectarian bigots as well. They're not mutually exclusive.

Jose M might not have goaded fans after a disallowed goal but he indulges on a bit of goading all the same. I would say most managers goad but this is just getting significantly more attention because of the rivalry and other incidents that happened. 

On the other hand if being a soccer fan is a good enough reason to shout abuse at the opposition then the sport must be in a very sad state.
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« Reply #13553 on: November 02, 2018, 12:00:48 PM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. Heís pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesnít take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.

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« Reply #13554 on: November 02, 2018, 01:57:38 PM »
Neil Lennon believes he suffers anti-Catholic "racism" in Scotland and says there was an effigy depicting him being hanged at Tynecastle during Wednesday's Edinburgh derby.

The Hibernian head coach was struck by a coin during his team's goalless draw after celebrating a disallowed Hearts goal.

Lennon suggested some observers had blamed him for "bringing it on myself" by "goading people", which he described as a "pretty poor" argument.

"You call it sectarianism here in Scotland, I call it racism," Lennon said. "If a black man is abused, you're not just abusing the colour of his skin - you're abusing his culture, heritage, his background.

"It's the exact same when I get called a Fenian, a pauper, a beggar, a tarrier. These people have a sense of entitlement, or a superiority complex, and all I do is stand up for myself.

"I got hit by a coin in the face by someone in the crowd. Not happy with some of the comments that have come out after. People should know better.

"Pretty poor, all this, 'I was goading people, I brought it on myself'. There was an effigy at Tynecastle saying, 'hang Neil Lennon', that was before the game.

"Did I bring that on myself? You're all saying no, because you're right minded people, you're decent people.

"So this has got to stop. Everyone says I play the victim - I don't."


Taken from BBC website

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« Reply #13555 on: November 02, 2018, 02:55:19 PM »
I can tell you as i know...Neil Lennon is not a bigot nor sectarian, he comes from probably one of the nicest families you will find anywhere who haven't a bad bone in their bodies. Neil himself is a decent man who has suffered from the hands of bigots, he played for Man City, Crewe, and Leicester where he was still the we ginger hot headed midfielder who snapped at the heels of anyone he could to win an advantage...Look at the incident of him an Alan Shearer (Shearer kicked him in the head having been kicked a few time by Lennon), the point to all this was he was representing his country during these spells and there was not one bad word aimed at him during his career with these English clubs. However, once he signs for Celtic he's a fenian Bast**d and according to majority of NI fans that's still the case as the hate grew that much for him during his time at Celtic they have carried it on even though he's not connected with Celtic anymore.

I've had more rows and falling out with work colleagues who claim to hate him but when you ask they why they can't give you an actual reason why but I can...You're a bitter twisted, bigoted, sectarian Bast**d. Neil Lennon is 100% right, if this treatment happened to a black player it would have been on the World News and heads would have rolled but an Irish Catholic who played and managed Celtic it ok, he brought it on himself ::) he took abuse the whole of the game and reacted (he is human) at the end of a game with either a fist pump or a wave. If any of you are serious about saying he deserved it then you're as bad as the coin thrower (in my eyes and some of you have forgotten the thugs who tried to harm him at Tynecastle years ago).

People have given examples of other managers who are passionate and sometimes let themselves get carried away but to some it's funny and to others he's a di&k but he's not targeted like Neil Lennon is, if i was being 100% honest if he managed either the old Rangers or the new Sevco then he'd be just as passionate for them playing against Celtic. That's his make up and you can't change him, he'd be like that playing 5 a side but don't try and make it out to be something else other than sectarian, pure and simple.

The next person who tells you they hate Neil Lennon... ask them a serious question "WHY? Please give me a reason why you hate that man"
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« Reply #13556 on: November 02, 2018, 03:06:53 PM »
The thing is these things never happened to Lennon at Bolton - I don't think he's changed as a manager. Manages at Celtic and Hibs and he takes abuse every minute of the game

So the thing is clearly sectarian.  Clear as day.

Stop all this it's his own fault, he brings it all on himself waffle.

As Lennon alluded to himself, if he was black or Jewish and he was getting abuse the whole game, the SFA / FA would go to town on clubs, and rightly so!

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« Reply #13557 on: November 02, 2018, 03:21:22 PM »
It is unfair to compare Lennon to other managers anyway.

The abuse Jose M would get a Man Utd would be something along the lines of "You're Sh*t" etc etc. That is what a lot of managers would get but the abuse they get relates to their job.

Lennon gets abuse based on personal matters and not his performance as a manager.

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« Reply #13558 on: November 02, 2018, 03:22:27 PM »
Back to Celtic,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46075619

Celtic face losing the services of Daniel Arzani and Eboue Kouassi for the remainder of the season.

Kouassi was injured against Hearts at Murrayfield on Sunday and has been diagnosed with a knee ligament injury.

Arzani made his debut at Dundee on Wednesday but was taken off.

"We are waiting on the final analysis of the scans but it is unfortunate. It looks like we will have two cruciate injuries," said Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers.

"If it is the case it will rule them both out for the rest of the season."

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« Reply #13559 on: November 02, 2018, 06:19:32 PM »
Complete cop out re: Lennon. Has suffered sectarian abuse at every away ground in Scotland except CP but it's all his fault!! How do you work that out?

Takens abuse for 85+ mins then he decides to put finger over lips or motions his hand in a calm down type of motion and they throw coins at him.

Call it out for what it is - sectarianism because Lennon, like Mc Clean won't hide away.
There is a difference between not hiding away and antagonising people and situations.
Lennon has been getting it for 18 years. Heís pantomime villain for hearts and rangers fans who are largely scumbags. It doesnít take a lot for them to get riled up where an Irish Catholic is concerned
Funny how BR and MON don't seem to get the same attention.

Not sure what the point is there. Majority of players and managers who celebrate in similar way to NL don't have coins thrown at them. Mourinho doing his knee slide down the touchline didn't have an object thrown at him. Why not? I've seen both BR and MON celebrate with exuberance so why NL is singled out mystifies. Just because idiots react to NL does not mean he is doing anything wrong.
As I said before, celebrating your own team's goal is different to what NL did the other night.  Cause and effect.  Had he not done what he did the other night , he would not have got hit in the face with a coin.  It's pretty straightforward.
That's a disgraceful comment from one who portrays himself as the voice of reason. Lennon did little more than tell Hearts fans to settle down. The uncomfortable fact is that their is a large sectarian element within the NI/Hearts/Rangers supporters who single Lennon out and McClean because they don't fit the tame taig knowing his place model they prefer.
Not sure how what I stated can be construed as disgraceful.  I am not condoing the sc**bag who threw the coin in any way.  I was simply stating that, in my opinion, Lennon's actions led to the incident. 
As for your second point, give an example of a "tame taig", as you put it.  High profile Irish catholics in football such as BR and MON, who are forthright in their views when the situation requires it, don't get the same attention that Lennon NL receives.  There is a difference between "singling people out" and being antagonisitic and bringing attention to yourself.