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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #375 on: October 25, 2010, 10:54:53 PM »
The first goal was down to comedy defending and the second was well offside, but overall Cardiff could have at least matched the six that Preston got at Elland Road. Tonight makes 12 goals conceded in our last three home games, which is pretty alarming. While the ball was regularly given away out the field, the back four looked sub-standard.

Grayson was brought in as manager because McAllister's teams should not defend in league one, and he managed to give Leeds a much more solid look immediately. Unfortunately, the championship is starting to look like a different story. If Leeds keep losing at home by wide margins, slipping towards the relegation zone will follow and Uncle Ken is not likely to remain patient for long.

The pressure seems to be getting to Leeds at home, so it is probably as well that the next two games are away to Scunthorpe and Coventry. However, the two after that are at home to Hull and Bristol City, who are both below us in the table. Grayson can probably survive a tanking against Cardiff, who look likely bets for promotion, but he can not really afford to get into a further run of defeats and he will definitely be lucky to survive if he cannot get a win from one of his next two home matches.

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« Reply #376 on: October 25, 2010, 11:24:21 PM »
Pretty much agree with that, our defense s cronic, they undo all our endeavor an hardwork up the field, any ball in the box is a chance for the opposition, all 4 bar connolly look championship standard imo, Kinorsbo cant come back quick enough, naylor is finished so we need a centre back in January, Hopefully Ben Parker will answer the left back problem when hes back from injury, Bessone and hughes are liabiliities there. I think we are ok out the field, Faye has to get fitter but is a strong presence there and wins alot of ball back, howson is decent, Snodgrasss and Gradel/Johnson are fine imo, Somma can be good some days and atrocious the next, he needs to be more consistent, because despite Becchio lack of scoring threat he works alot harder and tires out the defence. Paynter is nearly back but its hard to know how good he is.

I like Grayson but i worry about Leeds and he'll do well to make it to Christmas as our defence will leak alot of goals, weve lost 4 of 5 now, have to beat Scuntorpe who are good at home, Its criminal though that the defence is the way it is, he bought bessone, collins and bruce who are all shite. Smeichel was a good buy, mccartney looked poor tonight.Fingers crossed it all work out and we'll stay up.
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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #377 on: December 04, 2010, 05:26:56 PM »
Leeds unbeaten in 6, great win today with lat fightback, 5pts off 2nd and in 6th, i have to say im delighted with our positon. I honestly thought we'd struggle this yr and early form suggested that but Grayson has bought well and the team has stepped up. O Brien seems to have improved the defence and bruce needs a good man beside him. McCartney is good loan signing and connolly is doing fine so i think our defence is better now and should be ok until january when obrien loan is up. Gradel and Snoddy are great on the wings and Becchio has really impressed me, he was in beckfords shadow but since his departure bechio has been brilliant.Paynter and mccormak came on today aswell which bodes well with Somma another good option. Looks like a good yr and definitly one of consolidation but i hope we make the play offs now.
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« Reply #378 on: December 04, 2010, 06:10:39 PM »
Leeds unbeaten in 6, great win today with lat fightback, 5pts off 2nd and in 6th, i have to say im delighted with our positon. I honestly thought we'd struggle this yr and early form suggested that but Grayson has bought well and the team has stepped up. O Brien seems to have improved the defence and bruce needs a good man beside him. McCartney is good loan signing and connolly is doing fine so i think our defence is better now and should be ok until january when obrien loan is up. Gradel and Snoddy are great on the wings and Becchio has really impressed me, he was in beckfords shadow but since his departure bechio has been brilliant.Paynter and mccormak came on today aswell which bodes well with Somma another good option. Looks like a good yr and definitly one of consolidation but i hope we make the play offs now.

Agree with all of that. If Leeds even had a mediocre home record, they would be right up there. My one fear would be the temporary nature of the loan signings - that could make things unravel if those lads are recalled by their clubs. Becchio is proving me wrong I have to say - I didn't think he had it at this level but he's stepped up the plate big time - get Kisnorbo and Paynter back and fit and Leeds might be there or thereabouts come May.  :)


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« Reply #379 on: December 04, 2010, 06:14:58 PM »
Leeds unbeaten in 6, great win today with lat fightback, 5pts off 2nd and in 6th, i have to say im delighted with our positon. I honestly thought we'd struggle this yr and early form suggested that but Grayson has bought well and the team has stepped up. O Brien seems to have improved the defence and bruce needs a good man beside him. McCartney is good loan signing and connolly is doing fine so i think our defence is better now and should be ok until january when obrien loan is up. Gradel and Snoddy are great on the wings and Becchio has really impressed me, he was in beckfords shadow but since his departure bechio has been brilliant.Paynter and mccormak came on today aswell which bodes well with Somma another good option. Looks like a good yr and definitly one of consolidation but i hope we make the play offs now.

Agree with all of that. If Leeds even had a mediocre home record, they would be right up there. My one fear would be the temporary nature of the loan signings - that could make things unravel if those lads are recalled by their clubs. Becchio is proving me wrong I have to say - I didn't think he had it at this level but he's stepped up the plate big time - get Kisnorbo and Paynter back and fit and Leeds might be there or thereabouts come May.  :)

Get thon boy back and he'll add a bit of gloss to the team ;)
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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #380 on: December 04, 2010, 06:24:09 PM »
Leeds unbeaten in 6, great win today with lat fightback, 5pts off 2nd and in 6th, i have to say im delighted with our positon. I honestly thought we'd struggle this yr and early form suggested that but Grayson has bought well and the team has stepped up. O Brien seems to have improved the defence and bruce needs a good man beside him. McCartney is good loan signing and connolly is doing fine so i think our defence is better now and should be ok until january when obrien loan is up. Gradel and Snoddy are great on the wings and Becchio has really impressed me, he was in beckfords shadow but since his departure bechio has been brilliant.Paynter and mccormak came on today aswell which bodes well with Somma another good option. Looks like a good yr and definitly one of consolidation but i hope we make the play offs now.

Agree with all of that. If Leeds even had a mediocre home record, they would be right up there. My one fear would be the temporary nature of the loan signings - that could make things unravel if those lads are recalled by their clubs. Becchio is proving me wrong I have to say - I didn't think he had it at this level but he's stepped up the plate big time - get Kisnorbo and Paynter back and fit and Leeds might be there or thereabouts come May.  :)

Get thon boy back and he'll add a bit of gloss to the team ;)

My worry is that in the mouth of Christmas, he'll be needed in the shop in Scotch Street.   :P


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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #381 on: December 28, 2010, 06:29:58 PM »
FFS - four points thrown away over Christmas that if taken would have had Leeds brilliantly placed, clear in second. Defence seems to be a problem, although plenty of goals up front, with Max Gradel on fire. Need to strengthen in defence, and that is based on keeping McCartney and O'Brien - the next few weeks should be interesting as regards players coming in.   


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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #382 on: April 26, 2011, 11:51:53 AM »
FFS - four points thrown away over Christmas that if taken would have had Leeds brilliantly placed, clear in second. Defence seems to be a problem, although plenty of goals up front, with Max Gradel on fire. Need to strengthen in defence, and that is based on keeping McCartney and O'Brien - the next few weeks should be interesting as regards players coming in.

The above post seems an awful long time ago now. Back at Christmas, Leeds were in the middle of a run that brought something like one league defeat in over twenty games. However even back then, there was a concern that too many points were being dropped due to getting draws from winning positions. The recent run of form has been terrible, and Leeds fell out of the top six, at the week-end, for the first time since last November. Bad time to do it.

Only a miracle will see Leeds get into the play offs now, and given that is unlikely, need to start thinking ahead to the eighth season out of the top flight - the same number of seasons that Leeds were out of the top flight back in the 1980s, and back then that seemed like a lifetime.

It will be more difficult next year - three teams coming down with their parachute payments, who do not have major financial problems, so they will be able to invest more in their squads. Grayson is going to have to be shrewd in the market, but with Uncle Ken keeping a tight eye on the purse strings, it might be wishing too much to hope for promotion.

Ah well, following Leeds was never about the glory!!   :D


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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #383 on: April 26, 2011, 12:33:29 PM »
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Ah well, following Leeds was never about the glory!!

That's for sure.

I didn't think this would be the year; hopefully they can hang on to their decent midfield and strengthen that defence.  There's nothing frightening coming down this season, irrespective of parachute payments. 
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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #384 on: April 26, 2011, 02:40:59 PM »
Realistically, most Leeds fans would have accepted a mid-table finish at the start of the season. However, having been close to the automatic promotion places for a lengthy period, and looking certainties for the play-offs, the decline over the last couple of months has been frustrating. The same thing happened at the same stage last season, and nearly kept us in league one for another year.

The basic problem is still that Leeds are vulnerable defensively and may need an entirely new back four in the summer. O'Brien is steady, but not getting any younger, Kisnorbo is excellent but has been out for over 12 months and may never be back, while none of the others have been fully convincing.

Grayson was not helped by the loss of form from Snodgrass and Bechio's injury, but the evidence is that his defensive organisation is suspect. He will need to put things right quickly for the start of next season.

Leeds still have a mathematical chance of going up, but they are pretty obviously not ready for it. They have had either a promotion, a relegation or a play-off campaign for each of the last five seasons, so a quiet finish and the opportunity to regroup may do no harm.



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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #385 on: April 26, 2011, 02:55:29 PM »
Realistically, most Leeds fans would have accepted a mid-table finish at the start of the season. However, having been close to the automatic promotion places for a lengthy period, and looking certainties for the play-offs, the decline over the last couple of months has been frustrating. The same thing happened at the same stage last season, and nearly kept us in league one for another year.

The basic problem is still that Leeds are vulnerable defensively and may need an entirely new back four in the summer. O'Brien is steady, but not getting any younger, Kisnorbo is excellent but has been out for over 12 months and may never be back, while none of the others have been fully convincing.

Grayson was not helped by the loss of form from Snodgrass and Bechio's injury, but the evidence is that his defensive organisation is suspect. He will need to put things right quickly for the start of next season.

Leeds still have a mathematical chance of going up, but they are pretty obviously not ready for it. They have had either a promotion, a relegation or a play-off campaign for each of the last five seasons, so a quiet finish and the opportunity to regroup may do no harm.

Good post - in the context of the defensive issues, the absence of Kisnorbo was huge!


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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #386 on: April 26, 2011, 03:08:23 PM »
At the start of the season i was shtting myself on us staying up, and i didnt have to worry about that all season. Last few weeks have been frustrating for sure but i have to accept that. Snodgrass is running on empty and who could blame him, Beechio injury was a big blow as paynter isnt close to his level imo.

The back line needs to be looked at big time, its a relegation defence no doubt and if we dont reinforce it puts serious pressure on the forwards again.

Kisnorbo is back in light training so should be back for start of next season, connolly and mccartney need to be ran, our squad does need overhaul and reinvestment.

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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #387 on: April 26, 2011, 03:15:00 PM »
You still have Schmeichel and a good goakeeper is a good start.
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« Reply #388 on: April 30, 2011, 01:33:30 PM »
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Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« Reply #389 on: April 30, 2011, 03:33:59 PM »
SHould of been alot more comfortable, and goal diff is huge advantage for forest, should of won 5/6 nil, and that would of given us a big chance, played great stuff though, had the chances against Reading aswell, jees lately weve done well against the big teams and shit against bottom ones.

Come on Scunthorpe and swansea, nunez leeds player on loan at scunny.....
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