The Hop Ball

[Louth Exile]

Throwing this out there for the rules experts....

They brought it up on the evening show of the Sunday Game about the Peadar Gardener free, where he hopped the ball three times trying to get control of it and was blown for a free out. My understanding of this was that if you hadn't taken full control of the ball that you could essentially hop it as many times as you like, once you only used the same hand.

Am I wrong, what are the practicalities of the rule, have there been changes in recent times??

[AbbeySider]

Throwing this out there for the rules experts....

They brought it up on the evening show of the Sunday Game about the Peadar Gardener free, where he hopped the ball three times trying to get control of it and was blown for a free out. My understanding of this was that if you hadn't taken full control of the ball that you could essentially hop it as many times as you like, once you only used the same hand.

Am I wrong, what are the practicalities of the rule, have there been changes in recent times??

The point they were making was that Gardener lost control of the ball.

The ball did seem to skid in front of him so to regain control he had to bounce it a few more times.
It was another harsh decision by the ref.

[David McKeown]

My understanding is that you were correct until last year or the year before when they changed the interpretation on the rule so that even if your attempting to control the ball referees are supposed to now award a free against

[cornafean]

My understanding is that you were correct until last year or the year before when they changed the interpretation on the rule so that even if your attempting to control the ball referees are supposed to now award a free against

If that is the case, then the rule is silly. I don't really see any point in it.

[Smokin Joe]

Does that mean then that under the "old rules" that you could bounce the ball basketball style the whole length of the pitch?

[longrunsthefox]

aye looked like three bounces to me...

[Gold]

that decision was a disgrace--he never had control of the ball

[tyroneman]

My understanding is that you can hop the ball as many times as you want to gain control of it initially. Up to ref then to decide when you deemed to have control

[Donnellys Hollow]

Wasn't there controversy about this before in the nineties. Ironically enough I think it was Liam McHale in a Connacht match against Galway in either '96 or '97. He hopped the ball several times before gaining control of it - Mayo ended up getting a crucial score further on in the play if I remember correctly.

[Jinxy]

Wasn't there controversy about this before in the nineties. Ironically enough I think it was Liam McHale in a Connacht match against Galway in either '96 or '97. He hopped the ball several times before gaining control of it - Mayo ended up getting a crucial score further on in the play if I remember correctly.

I remember that.
Then he threw it over the bar and shouted "Swish!"

[mayo51]

Wasn't there controversy about this before in the nineties. Ironically enough I think it was Liam McHale in a Connacht match against Galway in either '96 or '97. He hopped the ball several times before gaining control of it - Mayo ended up getting a crucial score further on in the play if I remember correctly.

yes this was the 1996 connacht final and it led to the go ahead goal by ray dempsey.

[rosnarun]

so how then does david bray's goal fit into this argument
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxfCV7_JLEo

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

My understanding is that you can hop the ball as many times as you want to gain control of it initially. Up to ref then to decide when you deemed to have control

'Possession' is the key here: once you're deemed to be in 'possession' of the ball then the hop-ball rule applies, but not until.

[screenexile]

Didn't see the Gardner incident but Bray's goal wasn't a bounce first it was more a drop. He then got possession and bounced the ball and finished.

Tricky rule but I would agree if you've bounced a ball and it's slid away on you you should be allowed a bounce to get control without being penalised.

[Louth Exile]

My understanding is that you were correct until last year or the year before when they changed the interpretation on the rule so that even if your attempting to control the ball referees are supposed to now award a free against

Do you know, was it a foul "under the old rule" if you changed the bouncing hand?

Does that mean then that under the "old rules" that you could bounce the ball basketball style the whole length of the pitch?

Technically yes, but you try doing that against 15 Meathmen!!