Do Kilkenny get away with more?

lilpaulie85 · August 12, 2009, 01:48:23 PM

Over the last number of years i have noticed alot of matches where kilkenny have got away with more than their opposing teams. In almost identical instances against waterford kilkenny where awarded frees while waterford were waved away. The same could be said for thw galway game. this is called "playing on the edge" when the cats do it. It's already hard enough to beat them without having to play to different rules.. Any Opinions?

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deiseach · August 12, 2009, 02:28:08 PM

I didn't get any sense on Sunday that the ref let Kilkenny away with things. We could cherry-pick examples endlessly, but I fail to see WHY refs would let Kilkenny off. Are referees part of some manner of Masonic conspiracy to favour them?

maxpower · August 12, 2009, 02:52:11 PM

I think it happens right across the board in terms of sport, the best players and the best teams tend to get the benefit of the doubt more often than less illustrious oponents. I think KK would probaly shade more tight calls, referee's are human and the instinct would of course be to think that Tommy Walsh, JJ etc 'know' how to play on the edge.

Look at the big four in the premiership, New Zealand in Rugby

maxpower · August 12, 2009, 02:53:14 PM

By the by i don't think this is of any major significance in their recent dominance

mckieran · August 12, 2009, 03:38:09 PM

No, Its a complete myth that Kilkenny get away with more.

lilpaulie85 · August 12, 2009, 04:09:43 PM

i'm not for one minute saying that they are dominent primarily on these calls, that is far from the case. This is the best team ive ever seen and rightly deserve all the praise they get. i just think that some of these descisions take the wind out of opponents sails some times at crucial points.

The Wedger · August 13, 2009, 07:30:52 PM

The most dominant team in any sport seem to get away with more.
Though part of that could be down to everybody watching them more closely?

slow corner back · August 14, 2009, 12:14:28 PM

In last Sundays game waterford got 20 frees and kk 11 so not much help from the ref there.

Royalranter · August 14, 2009, 03:13:45 PM

Kk get away with nothing when you compare them to Ciaran Whealan. I know he's a footballer but it's a bit of a joke. Never gets more than a yellow for assaulting people

mckieran · August 14, 2009, 03:34:39 PM

QuoteIn last Sundays game waterford got 20 frees and kk 11 so not much help from the ref there.

This argument drives me insane. So many times, people say to me a ref favored a certain team as quote the number of frees given.

But if one team fouls more than the other, surely there would be an difference in the amount of frees awarded!

And generally, better teams tend to foul less.

lilpaulie85 · August 14, 2009, 08:28:46 PM

Quote from: mckieran on August 14, 2009, 03:34:39 PM
QuoteIn last Sundays game waterford got 20 frees and kk 11 so not much help from the ref there.

This argument drives me insane. So many times, people say to me a ref favored a certain team as quote the number of frees given.

But if one team fouls more than the other, surely there would be an difference in the amount of frees awarded!

And generally, better teams tend to foul less.

Exactly its nothing to do with the number of frees it's how and what they were awrded for.

020304 Tir Eoghain · August 14, 2009, 11:22:44 PM

Do Kilkenny get away with more?

No.

Zapatista · August 15, 2009, 09:12:42 AM

Quote from: The Wedger on August 13, 2009, 07:30:52 PM
The most dominant team in any sport seem to get away with more.
Though part of that could be down to everybody watching them more closely?

True. I would know KK well but would struggle with identifying the Clare, Tipp, Lim etc players. It leaves me in a poor position to make comparisons.