CCTV of Gerrard incident released

[corn02]

Indeed, not much doubt on that clearer image, although not concrete either so he will probably get a bit of community service.

Apology accepted

No no, didn;t apologise.

You said unclear fotage was clear as day, this is clearer, so you were still wrong.

I await an apology.

[EC Unique]

Indeed, not much doubt on that clearer image, although not concrete either so he will probably get a bit of community service.

Apology accepted

No no, didn;t apologise.

You said unclear fotage was clear as day, this is clearer, so you were still wrong.

I await an apology.

Now you are just getting ridiculous corn

[David McKeown]

Realistically, if he is found guilty what can he expect?

It's a bit early to say a lot will depend on factors such as previous record, liklihood to reoffend etc.  Here we have pre sentence reports which really dictate the sentence. They aren't as a common in England. My gut feeling is either a short custodial sentence or a suspended sentence

[corn02]

Indeed, not much doubt on that clearer image, although not concrete either so he will probably get a bit of community service.

Apology accepted

No no, didn;t apologise.

You said unclear fotage was clear as day, this is clearer, so you were still wrong.

I await an apology.

Now you are just getting ridiculous corn

[Silky]

What is mither? Stevie G is claiming self defence because he gets a lot of it.

[full back]

What is mither? Stevie G is claiming self defence because he gets a lot of it.

[Silky]

Its in the BBC report on his evidence this morning. I've no idea what it is either 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8164559.stm

[bingobus]

Realistically, if he is found guilty what can he expect?

He has to train at Man United for a week 

I've read at worst it will be suspended sentence or community service. Very unlikely to do time.

Most scousers wouldnt be welcome at OT, but in the case of Stevie G we will make an exception

Sure the place would be overrun with them  - Rooney, Owen and Gerard! Call Rentokill. 

[full back]

We can but dream that Stevie G would become a fixture at OT 

Any of you scousers help us out with a bit of translation?
Im assuming 'mither' is hassle or something

[bingobus]

We can but dream that Stevie G would become a fixture at OT 

Any of you scousers help us out with a bit of translation?
Im assuming 'mither' is hassle or something

mither = bother (but hassle would also be acceptable).

[corn02]

Verb. To fuss, bother, pester. Also occasionally spelt moither. [North West/Midlands use]
Noun. A complaining or persistently bothering person.

[muppet]

Verb. To fuss, bother, pester. Also occasionally spelt moither. [North West/Midlands use]
Noun. A complaining or persistently bothering person.

That's a great word with lots of potential for other uses:

moither fecker
sweet mither a jaysus

[corn02]

Verb. To fuss, bother, pester. Also occasionally spelt moither. [North West/Midlands use]
Noun. A complaining or persistently bothering person.

That's a great word with lots of potential for other uses:

moither fecker
sweet mither a jaysus

Excellent.

I'm in a mither bother.

[David McKeown]

The problem with a self defence argument is that to relay on it Gerrard has to show an immediate fear of violence. That's very hard to prove when the guy appears to be doubled over before Gerrard appears to punch him. Hard to establish an immediate fear at the point especially if your in a group of mates

[full back]

The problem with a self defence argument is that to relay on it Gerrard has to show an immediate fear of violence. That's very hard to prove when the guy appears to be doubled over before Gerrard appears to punch him. Hard to establish an immediate fear at the point especially if your in a group of mates

Not that hard
Go through a DVD of a few of his games last year & he is falling all over the place
No way a tough man would be falling at the merest of touches

Case dismissed