An Bord Snip Nua

[muppet]

You know what I mean Muppet.
I see there are recommendations to reduce the no. of special needs teachers by 2,000   
Then they recommend closing hundreds of rural Garda Stations....a recipe for more Nallys if ever there was one.
And  they recommend depriving the poor oul divils living in remote rural areas their bus to town on a Friday.

I think it's fair to say no Politician will want to implement a lot of what's in this Economist's report.

It was the 4 bench warrants being ignored by the stations on Froggy Ward that was the problem. He thought he was above the law because the law ignored him.

[carribbear]

Here's a few mad ideas.

What about stopping the irish government funding of overseas aid projects? see where the government is throwing money about http://www.irishaid.gov.ie/
How about stopping welfare payments/free cars/hairdressing vouchers etc to bogus asylum seekers and non eu parasites.
How about putting a cap on the amount of money top civil servants can be paid (im thinking judges and state barristers who've fleeced the taxpayer in these tribunals)
How about holding the banking and financial community accountable for all the money until it is paid back, make them work it off and recouping all their assets (put them on skid row) including any side-companies they may have.
How about getting rid of the HSE completely and let the nurses and doctors do their job, theres more penpushers than carers these days.
How about stopping language programs in schools, let kids learn the basics and if they can't speak english or irish let their parents pay for lessons. Not the states job to pay for integration teachers when theres problems getting a regular one for 30 kids in a portacabin.
How about tendering all constructions jobs to only companies with the financial clout to finish them, if they default on the project or are overbudget then either they pay the difference or they hand it over (luas, red cow roundabout etc)

Safeguards like these 10 years ago would have stopped a lot of the problems we face now.

Immigants!  I knew it was them!  Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them.
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F20.html

not exactly what I had in mind but the country has never had an honest debate about how much they are spending to look after all these guests.
Whoever is here legally is not a problem but those who arent should be turfed out and stop being a drain on the finance department.

Just saying if belts are being tightened then must think of prudent ways to lower government spending. Handing out free cars/housing etc to folk who arrive on these shores hasnt helped in recent times and is especially galling when normal folk are being denied social welfare by the government after working for years and paying their taxes.

[Gnevin]

Here's a few mad ideas.

What about stopping the irish government funding of overseas aid projects? see where the government is throwing money about http://www.irishaid.gov.ie/
How about stopping welfare payments/free cars/hairdressing vouchers etc to bogus asylum seekers and non eu parasites.
How about putting a cap on the amount of money top civil servants can be paid (im thinking judges and state barristers who've fleeced the taxpayer in these tribunals)
How about holding the banking and financial community accountable for all the money until it is paid back, make them work it off and recouping all their assets (put them on skid row) including any side-companies they may have.
How about getting rid of the HSE completely and let the nurses and doctors do their job, theres more penpushers than carers these days.
How about stopping language programs in schools, let kids learn the basics and if they can't speak english or irish let their parents pay for lessons. Not the states job to pay for integration teachers when theres problems getting a regular one for 30 kids in a portacabin.
How about tendering all constructions jobs to only companies with the financial clout to finish them, if they default on the project or are overbudget then either they pay the difference or they hand it over (luas, red cow roundabout etc)

Safeguards like these 10 years ago would have stopped a lot of the problems we face now.

Immigants!  I knew it was them!  Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them.
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F20.html

not exactly what I had in mind but the country has never had an honest debate about how much they are spending to look after all these guests.
Whoever is here legally is not a problem but those who arent should be turfed out and stop being a drain on the finance department.

Just saying if belts are being tightened then must think of prudent ways to lower government spending. Handing out free cars/housing etc to folk who arrive on these shores hasnt helped in recent times and is especially galling when normal folk are being denied social welfare by the government after working for years and paying their taxes.

The country has had plenty of debate on this issue.

The Human rights charter be damned so? I don't see many people queuing up to enter Ireland now so your point is moot.

You want to know about waste talk to a Dublin taxi driver with a HSE contract.

[Gnevin]

And as an extra special bonus, the 26 Counties are to be reduced to 22 - with Carlow, Leitrim (and I assume, Longford and Laois) being swallowed up by their larger neighbours. Kinda symbolic.

Say goodbye to Lisbon II, lads.

There  are more than 26 counties at the moment but it's not a bad idea some economies of scale could be gained here . As I once read you don't have to hurl for the man who collects your bin.

[carribbear]

The country has had plenty of debate on this issue.

The Human rights charter be damned so? I don't see many people queuing up to enter Ireland now so your point is moot.

You want to know about waste talk to a Dublin taxi driver with a HSE contract.

it certainly hasn't been debated properly because they have never told the truth about where the health boards money has been spent on giving people money for cars, fill their trolleys at tescos, vouchers for hair braiding (because its their culture - first hand info there). Even Adrian Kennedy refuses to open up this can of worms on his talkshow because he's afraid if people hear the truth on how their money is being handed over with blank cheques.

[Gnevin]

The country has had plenty of debate on this issue.

The Human rights charter be damned so? I don't see many people queuing up to enter Ireland now so your point is moot.

You want to know about waste talk to a Dublin taxi driver with a HSE contract.

it certainly hasn't been debated properly because they have never told the truth about where the health boards money has been spent on giving people money for cars, fill their trolleys at tescos, vouchers for hair braiding (because its their culture - first hand info there). Even Adrian Kennedy refuses to open up this can of worms on his talkshow because he's afraid if people hear the truth on how their money is being handed over with blank cheques.

Maybe you should go on there so and shout and curse at people .

[magpie seanie]

This whole charade is laughable if it wasn't so serious. It was obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together that most of these measures needed to be brought in at least 12 months ago but the govt bottled it big time in the face of the unions refusals to accept job cuts. Hopefully this time they are belatedly strapping on a pair of balls and will finally grasp the nettle and stop hitting easy targets. Job cuts are not nice but it just has to be done. So long as its done fairly and good workers are kept and wasters are "retired". That could be the problem though.

[boojangles]

No mention of cutting the amount of TDs or Senators?

[armaghniac]

Aigh, but I'd reckon they were told to go to the extremes so the govt can turn around and do something milder and not look like the bad guys

All of these measures together would only reduce borrowing by about a quarter. Hardly an extreme.

[Gnevin]

No mention of cutting the amount of TDs or Senators?

Cutting TD's would require a referendum .

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

No mention of cutting the amount of TDs or Senators?

Cutting TD's would require a referendum .

Or a revolution 

[Dinny Breen]

No mention of cutting the amount of TDs or Senators?

Cutting TD's would require a referendum .

Or a revolution 

Or just a sharp knife

[Bord na Mona man]

Even if those cuts make it trough, its only a 1/4 of what's required.
After Lisbon passes, I can see social welfare getting a big chop.
If the dole has risen in real terms by 67% in the last 9 years, then it is going to getted chopped right down again.

It all proves that Bertie really was a socialist!

[carribbear]

it certainly hasn't been debated properly because they have never told the truth about where the health boards money has been spent on giving people money for cars, fill their trolleys at tescos, vouchers for hair braiding (because its their culture - first hand info there). Even Adrian Kennedy refuses to open up this can of worms on his talkshow because he's afraid if people hear the truth on how their money is being handed over with blank cheques.

Maybe you should go on there so and shout and curse at people .

You miss the point. If even the likes of him refuses to talk about it then you know its a debate thats being swept under the carpet. No-one has the balls to talk facts and figures. Thats where all the health board money has been going to, not to hospitals and the care of patients, the health boards instead use their budget to pay rents, give away money for cars and no-one is any the wiser, the people are told to think its the greedy nurses who take all the cash.

[Gnevin]

it certainly hasn't been debated properly because they have never told the truth about where the health boards money has been spent on giving people money for cars, fill their trolleys at tescos, vouchers for hair braiding (because its their culture - first hand info there). Even Adrian Kennedy refuses to open up this can of worms on his talkshow because he's afraid if people hear the truth on how their money is being handed over with blank cheques.

Maybe you should go on there so and shout and curse at people .

You miss the point. If even the likes of him refuses to talk about it then you know its a debate thats being swept under the carpet. No-one has the balls to talk facts and figures. Thats where all the health board money has been going to, not to hospitals and the care of patients, the health boards instead use their budget to pay rents, give away money for cars and no-one is any the wiser, the people are told to think its the greedy nurses who take all the cash.

No the money in the health system is being wasted at the front line on things like taxi's to drive bloods around Dublin, electricians on call to change light bulbs etc.