Sinn Fein vs Sieg Heil - Spot the Difference

[Myles Na G.]

They don't ... but they had a right to say (you used the word dictate, which is ironic) what happened in Ireland in 1918 and beyond.     Like the previous 800 years, their wishes were ignored by the colonial invaders.  What right had the undemocratic, sectarian, apartheid unionist regime to dictate what happened in the six counties from 1921-69?  What right had a foreign power to dictate what happens on Irish soil for 800 years?  Think you've answered your own question there ... now calm down with the caps key there, you'll be busting a blood vessel son    

So what about voters after 1918? What about their rights? They consistently rejected the Shinners, yet militant republicans still claim to represent the people.

[Myles Na G.]

You just keep saying what about this and that and I'm asking wht about them? What do you want me to answer?

The police men and women in the six counties are paramilitarties with the backing of the state.

I want your views. That's why I've asked what you think. Keep on ducking.

As for your definition of police - you've just defined every police force in the world.

[pintsofguinness]

You want my views?

What about republicans who murdered nationalists without any help at all?

You'll have to give speific examples if you want my views.

wHAT ABOUT REPUBLICANS WHO CRIPPLED CHILDREN WITH THEIR PUNISHMENT BEATINGS AND SHOOTINGS

If the so called police force would do their job rather than terrorising republican paramilitarties wouldnt have to police their own communites and issue punishment in the only way they could.

WHO TOOK MOTHERS FROM THEIR KIDS, MURDERED THEM AND HID THE BODIES?

If you're talking about Jean McConville then yes, that was a terrible act.

[red hander]

They don't ... but they had a right to say (you used the word dictate, which is ironic) what happened in Ireland in 1918 and beyond.     Like the previous 800 years, their wishes were ignored by the colonial invaders.  What right had the undemocratic, sectarian, apartheid unionist regime to dictate what happened in the six counties from 1921-69?  What right had a foreign power to dictate what happens on Irish soil for 800 years?  Think you've answered your own question there ... now calm down with the caps key there, you'll be busting a blood vessel son    

So what about voters after 1918? What about their rights? They consistently rejected the Shinners, yet militant republicans still claim to represent the people.

What happened in Ireland in 1918 had fundamental repercussions for the history of the country, unlike any election before or since ... you cannot, like your English friends, simply ignore that fact and hope it goes away, you cannot ignore the fact that your English friends rode roughshod over the democratic wishes of the vast majority of Irish people and split the country in two  ... the message that their actions sent out is there for all to see, your English friends can't complain about 'terrorism' when it is them who caused it in the first place ... your hypocrisy is all you have

[carribbear]

The vast majority of Irish people - people actually living on the island, unlike PoG who preaches war against the invader while living in...err...the land of the invader - don't / didn't agree with so called armed stuggle either. The fact that a minority of pricks take it upon themselves to wage war doesn't make them freedom fighters. It makes them sectarian / political fanatics in most cases. Those people like Constable Murphy and the present generation of recruits to the PSNI are doing better service for their country than all the martyrs to the cause who gave their lives 9and took other peoples) for 'mother Ireland'. Slan (I know you like that sort of thing).
 

Myles Na G - Nationalist. You can't help yourself, can you.

Now can we have your prediction for the Antrim game at the weekend? 

[Myles Na G.]

'What happened in Ireland in 1918 had fundamental repercussions for the history of the country, unlike any election before or since ... you cannot, like your English friends, simply ignore that fact and hope it goes away, you cannot ignore the fact that your English friends rode roughshod over the democratic wishes of the vast majority of Irish people and split the country in two  ... the message that their actions sent out is there for all to see, your English friends can't complain about 'terrorism' when it is them who caused it in the first place ... your hypocrisy is all you have'

Just because you like the result, that doesn't make it any more special or relevant. And who the fock are my English friends and how are they relevant to this conversation? Why is it that Irish republicans are toatlly obsessed with the English / British?
 

[Myles Na G.]

Myles Na G - Nationalist. You can't help yourself, can you.

Now can we have your prediction for the Antrim game at the weekend?    

nationalist - republican. You just can't tell the difference, can you?
 

[red hander]

'What happened in Ireland in 1918 had fundamental repercussions for the history of the country, unlike any election before or since ... you cannot, like your English friends, simply ignore that fact and hope it goes away, you cannot ignore the fact that your English friends rode roughshod over the democratic wishes of the vast majority of Irish people and split the country in two  ... the message that their actions sent out is there for all to see, your English friends can't complain about 'terrorism' when it is them who caused it in the first place ... your hypocrisy is all you have'

Just because you like the result, that doesn't make it any more special or relevant. And who the fock are my English friends and how are they relevant to this conversation? Why is it that Irish republicans are toatlly obsessed with the English / British?
 

Loved the result, mate ... No more special or relevant?  Er, your English friends partitioned the country afterwards, ignoring (like you all night) the democratic wishes of the vast majority of Irish people (who you seem to think you represent) ... No more special or relevant?  The country was only partitioned once, resulting in a 58-year apartheid regime on Irish soil and then 40 years of the Troubles (wee bit of a coincidence, do you not think?) ... not special or relevant?  Reality dodging par execellence MnaG

[carribbear]

Myles Na G - Nationalist. You can't help yourself, can you.

Now can we have your prediction for the Antrim game at the weekend?    

nationalist - republican. You just can't tell the difference, can you?
 

I think youre the one who's more than a little confused about your identity

[Lar Naparka]

As always, I'm a bit reluctant to interfere here and maybe distract you lads for your usual fun.
But I would be genuinely interested in hearing the views of any of you on what happened in this country of ours during the period 1919-21?
I'm referring to the War of Independence or whatever term you may wish to use.
I'd like to hear your spin on who you would regard as 'terrorists' back then.
Sir Hamar Greenwood was Chief Secretary at the time. (I think I got his job title right.)
He sanctioned the formation of both the Black and Tans and the Auxiliary Police.
I'd like to say that the regular British army personnel would be generally regarded as having acted in a normal manner and never resorted to acts of thuggery and lawlessness that characterised the other two official forces. I have been told this by many people who had lived through this period and I'm referring to southern Ireland.

I'm not sure as to what happened in the north of the country but in the south, the Tans and the Auxies won a worldwide reputation for their actions.
They burned, raped and pillaged on a massive scale. I doubt any one would seriously deny this and they acted with the full knowledge and consent of HMG and of course of the Chief Secretary, Hamar Greenwood.
Could they be said to have acted in conformance with the Geneva Convention or any other convention you care to mention?
Their officially admitted aim was to flush out the IRA but that doesn't concern me here. Their actions in the name of HMG does concern me.
ASAIK, the British government had signed up to this treaty by 1919; it had possibly done this a lot earlier. 
Was HMG acting in clear and deliberate breach of the accepted rules of war or was it not?

[Main Street]

Myles Na G - Nationalist. You can't help yourself, can you.

Now can we have your prediction for the Antrim game at the weekend?    

nationalist - republican. You just can't tell the difference, can you?
 

I think youre the one who's more than a little confused about your identity

When Myles is asked about the sensitive issue of the fake representation of his identity on this board, he usually answers with another question.

[Myles Na G.]

When Myles is asked about the sensitive issue of the fake representation of his identity on this board, he usually answers with another question.

Where has anyone recently asked me about my identity? Point out the question about my identity that I've supposedly ducked. If you're referring to the request for a prediction in the Antrim match, then (a) he's taking the piss; and (b) an interest or disinterest in gaelic games has no bearing on someone's identity. So where's this question you're talking about?

[carribbear]

When Myles is asked about the sensitive issue of the fake representation of his identity on this board, he usually answers with another question.

Where has anyone recently asked me about my identity? Point out the question about my identity that I've supposedly ducked. If you're referring to the request for a prediction in the Antrim match, then (a) he's taking the piss; and (b) an interest or disinterest in gaelic games has no bearing on someone's identity. So where's this question you're talking about?

More ducking and diving than Paul Berry in a Belfast Hotel Spa.

[Myles Na G.]

When Myles is asked about the sensitive issue of the fake representation of his identity on this board, he usually answers with another question.

Where has anyone recently asked me about my identity? Point out the question about my identity that I've supposedly ducked. If you're referring to the request for a prediction in the Antrim match, then (a) he's taking the piss; and (b) an interest or disinterest in gaelic games has no bearing on someone's identity. So where's this question you're talking about?

More ducking and diving than Paul Berry in a Belfast Hotel Spa.

So there was no question then? Thank you for clearing that up. T

[pintsofguinness]

Id be interested in hearing your response to Lar Naparka 's question myles