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« Reply #5970 on: May 19, 2020, 10:18:11 PM »
Bound to be a lot of young uns who would fight the corners of Lebron & Kobe.

Kobe? Not a chance.

LeBron? They'd be well entitled to.


Nah..

You could make a case for Lebron just on the numbers he regularly puts up over the course of his career, but MJ was a level above again IMO, he transcended the  sport

Yeah, I've no beef with LeBron and some of his stats surpass MJ but like yourself I think there is something unquantifiable about Jordan that places him on a pedestal. I said last week I think he's the single greatest sportsperson ever, certainly in a team game.

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« Reply #5971 on: May 19, 2020, 10:30:26 PM »
It is the futility of trying to compare eras. Kobe was a Jordan clone in the game he played and he was around got the end of the Jordan era. The game today is completely different. Jordan was a middling to sightly above average 3 pt shooter on very few attempts. Kevin Durant is a 6'11 monster who happens to be one of the best 3 pt shooters of all that. People like him, LeBron, Giannis, Jokic, Embiid just didn't exist in Jordan's day.

People also try the same argument they do with football, that the game is softer now. It's absolutely true but the idea that LeBron would have never any difficulty in the 80s or 90s physically is crazy. He's a 6'9 250lb behemoth who if you dumped him into the early to mid 90s would unquestionably be the best athlete I'm the entire league. Now he's just another one of the bunch. Conversely MJ bulked up to hit about 200/210 at 6'6. The guys who couldn't guard MJ wouldn't have a hope against LeBron either.
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« Reply #5972 on: May 19, 2020, 10:37:28 PM »
It’s hard to compare because they were in 2 different era’s if LeBron had been around in MJ’s time it would be the same thing I think. Michael was a bigger star nearly because he wasn’t as accessible so was up on a higher pedestal. Also he pretty much began the notion of a player being a brand.

I think LeBron is the better player and going back to the Cavs and winning a championship was huge but in terms of being an icon Jordan is the name you associate with Basketball!

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« Reply #5973 on: May 22, 2020, 12:03:59 AM »
Finished that White Lines on Netflix, watchable but overall pretty poor tbh, with some hammy acting & story lines. Unique in that every character was hateful, jesus you were rooting for no one in it.

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« Reply #5974 on: May 22, 2020, 08:43:17 AM »
Finished that White Lines on Netflix, watchable but overall pretty poor tbh, with some hammy acting & story lines. Unique in that every character was hateful, jesus you were rooting for no one in it.

Finished the first episode which was average.
Only started it because it was trending as number 1.

Should I bin the rest of it?

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« Reply #5975 on: May 22, 2020, 09:09:39 AM »
I thought it was shite and stopped watching after 3/4 episodes. The acting is terrible.

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« Reply #5976 on: May 22, 2020, 09:22:04 AM »
To quote the wife "that's 10 hours of my life I'm not getting back".

Some good tunes tho.

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« Reply #5977 on: May 22, 2020, 11:02:47 AM »
As much as love dance music and Ibiza stories and scenery, I haven’t rush back to watch after the first 2 episodes even with orgy scenes.

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« Reply #5978 on: May 22, 2020, 11:39:51 AM »
It’s hard to compare because they were in 2 different era’s if LeBron had been around in MJ’s time it would be the same thing I think. Michael was a bigger star nearly because he wasn’t as accessible so was up on a higher pedestal. Also he pretty much began the notion of a player being a brand.

I think LeBron is the better player and going back to the Cavs and winning a championship was huge but in terms of being an icon Jordan is the name you associate with Basketball!
what has to be constantly remembered about The last Dance is it more or less a Michael Jordan/Nike production so don't expect any serious analysis of his place in the pantheon or of the NBA place in the world
. in Ireland your considered a US sports freak if you know the names of the teams let alone the top players on anything other than the best teams .
without google who can name me the bulls 2 best players now?
Jordan was show business and brought in money to Basketball . nobody's going to Question that
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« Reply #5979 on: May 22, 2020, 01:28:31 PM »
As Gallsman says impossible and futile to compare, stats for instance When people compare LBJ & Jordan’s stats - 3 point shooting wasn’t part of the game then the way it is now, when Jordan was playing in college there wasn’t even a 3pt line.

Game totally different then, most teams went through a big centre in the paint, Olajuwon, Ewing & Shaq etc. Now you have players like LeBron at 6”9 & Durant at 6”11 running the floor like guards and shooting 3s. Does anyone think Jordan wouldn’t have become a very good 3 shooter if playing now ?

Good article here discussing it -

https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/29158278/five-reasons-michael-jordan-just-good-today-nba
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« Reply #5980 on: May 22, 2020, 04:34:14 PM »
As Gallsman says impossible and futile to compare, stats for instance When people compare LBJ & Jordan’s stats - 3 point shooting wasn’t part of the game then the way it is now, when Jordan was playing in college there wasn’t even a 3pt line.

Game totally different then, most teams went through a big centre in the paint, Olajuwon, Ewing & Shaq etc. Now you have players like LeBron at 6”9 & Durant at 6”11 running the floor like guards and shooting 3s. Does anyone think Jordan wouldn’t have become a very good 3 shooter if playing now ?

Good article here discussing it -

https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/29158278/five-reasons-michael-jordan-just-good-today-nba
if your allowing for time then JOrdan could not lace the boots of Bill Russell 11/13 and an Olympic gold without a dream team around him.

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« Reply #5981 on: May 22, 2020, 05:46:08 PM »
As Gallsman says impossible and futile to compare, stats for instance When people compare LBJ & Jordan’s stats - 3 point shooting wasn’t part of the game then the way it is now, when Jordan was playing in college there wasn’t even a 3pt line.

Game totally different then, most teams went through a big centre in the paint, Olajuwon, Ewing & Shaq etc. Now you have players like LeBron at 6”9 & Durant at 6”11 running the floor like guards and shooting 3s. Does anyone think Jordan wouldn’t have become a very good 3 shooter if playing now ?

Good article here discussing it -

https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/29158278/five-reasons-michael-jordan-just-good-today-nba

Good article, and hard to argue with any of that.

Its like saying Pele wouldn't still be an all-time great if he were around today.

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« Reply #5982 on: May 22, 2020, 06:26:51 PM »
Great players would always have adopted.
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« Reply #5983 on: May 22, 2020, 08:13:38 PM »
Is that as well as having their own children MR2 😉🙊

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« Reply #5984 on: May 22, 2020, 10:02:38 PM »
I never would have guessed that basketball was such a popular sport here with so many knowledgeable followers, who must have played the game at some level themselves and avidly followed the fortunes of Michael Jordon et al in the NBA in the 1990s, however that was possible -  perhaps by a transatlantic phone connection?
Perhaps we just knew things differently before broadband. We'd look at a photo in the newspaper and just know that such and such was a class act.