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Re: Running
« Reply #5385 on: February 15, 2017, 05:02:35 PM »
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.

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« Reply #5386 on: February 15, 2017, 05:08:48 PM »
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so
We went to Divis/Black Mountain Saturday week ago for the first time. There's a few nice marked routes around there that you could also try if you haven't already.  My husband likes trail running and is starting to build up training for an event in the Alps in June.  We went on a clear day and the views were super and would rival Cavehill as you can see a wider aspect. 

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.

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« Reply #5387 on: February 16, 2017, 10:19:47 AM »
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.

Good man, that all sounds good. I live on the Antrim Road so well used to running up it. Think I'll add hill repeats in every other week or so as well for the next couple of months too

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« Reply #5388 on: February 16, 2017, 10:26:53 AM »
Bought myself one of these...

http://www.milestonepod.com/

Discount code is PodXOXO14

Worked out 27 euro with postage to Ireland. Have heard very good things about it, clips onto your shoe and syncs with free app on phone/iPad....loads of information.

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« Reply #5389 on: February 16, 2017, 10:39:18 AM »
Never heard of those BM. Looks really cool and a lot cheaper than the average GPS watch. Also avoids phone carrying.

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« Reply #5390 on: February 16, 2017, 10:56:31 AM »
Never heard of those BM. Looks really cool and a lot cheaper than the average GPS watch. Also avoids phone carrying.
I'll let you know how it goes but it's priced well in fairness. Can't go far wrong and they guy who told me about it was raving about them.

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« Reply #5391 on: February 16, 2017, 11:32:58 AM »
Bought myself one of these...

http://www.milestonepod.com/

Discount code is PodXOXO14

Worked out 27 euro with postage to Ireland. Have heard very good things about it, clips onto your shoe and syncs with free app on phone/iPad....loads of information.
I use a Garmin footpod when running on treadmill. Could this be used for that or what's the difference?

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« Reply #5392 on: February 16, 2017, 12:02:09 PM »
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.

Good man, that all sounds good. I live on the Antrim Road so well used to running up it. Think I'll add hill repeats in every other week or so as well for the next couple of months too

Yeah, every other week is fine, you could alternate between hills and 800/1K/1 mile repeats every other week.. When 5/10k, even half training you can push the pace going up the hills but when training for a marathon I would recommend that you slow your ascend but also increase your descend speed so, if the session is 10x2mins I'd go, 2 mins up, 2.30 to get back to the start x 10....its more of a continuous run rather than blasting up and then slowly jogging back down which works better for shorter distances. Hope that makes sense?

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Re: Running
« Reply #5393 on: February 16, 2017, 12:41:27 PM »
Never heard of those BM. Looks really cool and a lot cheaper than the average GPS watch. Also avoids phone carrying.
I'll let you know how it goes but it's priced well in fairness. Can't go far wrong and they guy who told me about it was raving about them.

Bought a 620 a few months ago so too late for me lol. Be good if the market prices started to come down a lot on those kind of things though as to get a good one wasn't cheap.

If you're doing hill reps I would recommend every week but in a block. i.e. do 8 -10 weeks. Also do them progressively - i.e. start at 4 or 6 on your first week and end on 14 or 16 or whatever. With doing the marathon a large set of repeats wouldn't be a bad thing. Key thing with hill sessions is that they are not about speed - they are about form. Also a rule with any repeats too is to try and keep them all the same pace. no point gunning it.

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« Reply #5394 on: February 16, 2017, 12:44:17 PM »
Bought myself one of these...

http://www.milestonepod.com/

Discount code is PodXOXO14

Worked out 27 euro with postage to Ireland. Have heard very good things about it, clips onto your shoe and syncs with free app on phone/iPad....loads of information.
I use a Garmin footpod when running on treadmill. Could this be used for that or what's the difference?
Haven't a clue to be honest! Probably just another version

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« Reply #5395 on: February 28, 2017, 11:52:22 AM »
Our annual club 10k is this Sunday, be great to see some of you there. Flat, fast, decent race pack, beautiful scenery and superb post race grub!

http://athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Ben-Dearg-Coast

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« Reply #5396 on: March 04, 2017, 08:46:30 PM »
anyone do the carlingford half today? great course and scenery, not great weather today though. got a real soaking half way round. the only complaint is that for the price of an event like this chip timing should be used. the start was bit chaotic as there was a bit of a bottleneck at the tight start point, alot of people especially those near the back would have taken a minute or two to pass the start point but the results were posted as 'gun times' despite runners having a chip on their race number. runners were told at the start it was a chipped race then to be told at the end it was gun time is disappointing.
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« Reply #5397 on: March 05, 2017, 12:56:08 AM »
Friends did it as they are getting ready for the London marathon, tough test but great run they said
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Re: Running
« Reply #5398 on: March 07, 2017, 06:07:24 PM »
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.

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« Reply #5399 on: March 07, 2017, 06:25:00 PM »
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.
before doing a long training/marathon run i'd have more to eat beforehand than a slice of toast!! i'd have something along the lines of either porridge, banana and toast or cereal plus bit of chocolate just before i leave. that works so far for me but everybodys different.
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