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seafoid

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« Reply #8655 on: March 24, 2017, 08:37:57 PM »
The GOP owns healthcare now

and it's the interests of the base vs the Kochs

https://twitter.com/RepMcGovern/status/844991898850877443
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« Reply #8656 on: March 24, 2017, 10:47:47 PM »
Well oiled machine!!!

Are we giving him one more chance stew?? I'm beginning to lose count at this stage!  ;D  ;D

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« Reply #8657 on: March 24, 2017, 11:08:41 PM »
Obama gave the US Obamacare. Trump gave the US Don't Care.

17% of the US public support Don't Care, a net approval rating of - 39. 39% was the lowest approval rating Obamacare ever got.

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« Reply #8658 on: March 25, 2017, 02:36:14 AM »
Obama gave the US Obamacare. Trump gave the US Don't Care.

17% of the US public support Don't Care, a net approval rating of - 39. 39% was the lowest approval rating Obamacare ever got.

Who gives a damn what the approval rating is?

Obamacare Siddy was a complete and utter disaster, I admire Obama for trying to take care of the uninsured and impoverished, that said the rollout was a disgrace and it has went downhill from there.

Sid, do you think it is acceptable for people to live on the dole for decades in the United States of America?
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« Reply #8659 on: March 25, 2017, 03:13:11 AM »
Well oiled machine!!!

Are we giving him one more chance stew?? I'm beginning to lose count at this stage!  ;D  ;D

Really, you are illiterate sir!
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« Reply #8660 on: March 25, 2017, 09:26:49 AM »

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« Reply #8661 on: March 25, 2017, 11:17:21 AM »
Obama gave the US Obamacare. Trump gave the US Don't Care.

17% of the US public support Don't Care, a net approval rating of - 39. 39% was the lowest approval rating Obamacare ever got.

Who gives a damn what the approval rating is?

Obamacare Siddy was a complete and utter disaster, I admire Obama for trying to take care of the uninsured and impoverished, that said the rollout was a disgrace and it has went downhill from there.

Sid, do you think it is acceptable for people to live on the dole for decades in the United States of America?

It's hardly surprising that it hasn't worked as well as it could have given GOP obstruction, whether it was the refusal to expand Medicaid in numerous states to Trump's decision that the IRS will not be allowed to follow up or even ask about healthcare, thus eliminating the mandate and penalty. The whole idea is that young and healthy people buy in so that the risk and cost is pooled, instead of it just being sick or older people. The idea of compulsory coverage of certain services is that insurance is comprehensive and people don't end up in hospital only to be told "sorry, that illness you have isn't covered" or "you've exceeded your cap" " so get your house on the market or ring your bankruptcy lawyer" or " tough shit, you're on your own, we are not treating you".

The fact is that the GOP voted more than 50 times, en masse, to abolish Obamacare, all for political purposes. Now that their arses are actually on the line, they suddenly realize that there are real life consequences to their childish tantrums, and that their party doesn't have a f**king clue, after seven years of bullshit, and Trump's ludicrous promises of covering everyone with beautiful plans that cost so much less,  of how to address the many problems with US healthcare. Some of them like Ryan and Trump, think "access" is the key. Me and you have "access" to monthly holidays in the over the water bungalows of Bora Bora, or a nice fancy Bentley, but that doesn't mean we will ever be able to afford it. The Freedom Caucus don't give a f**k about anyone or anything except lower taxes and less government regs. The governors of Medicaid states and congress people from moderate areas actually get that people losing health coverage is a massive social problem which needs real solutions (at least they publicly get it, now that it's not just empty rhetoric).

But, instead of working with the Dems on improving things, what we are probably going to get now is continuing attempts to sabotage the status quo for political reasons with a view to 2018. I hope I'm wrong.