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« Reply #2640 on: October 07, 2018, 10:03:49 PM »
Fr Gerard McAleer I believe...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45779109

A parish priest in the Archdiocese of Armagh has stood aside from his position due to concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí.

A statement from the Catholic Church was issued on Sunday afternoon.

It said the information received is historical and relates to a time prior to the man's ordination as a priest.

The statement added that the relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed.

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« Reply #2641 on: October 07, 2018, 10:08:39 PM »
Fr Gerard McAleer I believe...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45779109

A parish priest in the Archdiocese of Armagh has stood aside from his position due to concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí.

A statement from the Catholic Church was issued on Sunday afternoon.

It said the information received is historical and relates to a time prior to the man's ordination as a priest.

The statement added that the relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed.

Time for Mickey Harte to dust off the old character reference...

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Re: Clerical abuse!
« Reply #2642 on: October 07, 2018, 10:57:21 PM »
Fr Gerard McAleer I believe...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45779109

A parish priest in the Archdiocese of Armagh has stood aside from his position due to concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí.

A statement from the Catholic Church was issued on Sunday afternoon.

It said the information received is historical and relates to a time prior to the man's ordination as a priest. The statement added that the relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/07/news/parish-priest-and-former-long-time-tyrone-gaa-coach-fr-gerard-mcaleer-steps-aside-from-parish-role-after-historical-complaint-1452332/

A PARISH priest and former long-time coach with Tyrone GAA has stepped down from his parish role following a historical complaint. Fr Gerard McAleer, the PP of Donaghmore, has voluntarily stood aside following concerns relating to a time "prior to his ordination as a priest".
It is believed that Fr McAleer was ordained in the early 1980s.

The Tyrone priest is also well-known in education and sporting circles. A former principal of St Brigid's High School in Armagh and St Patrick's Academy in Dungannon, he was a close companion of Mickey Harte throughout many of Tyrone GAA's successes over recent decades.

The pair took over the county's minor side in 1991 and Fr McAleer served as assistant manager when Tyrone landed its first ever All-Ireland senior football title in 2003. Fr McAleer, believed to be in his early 60s, became parish priest in Donaghmore in the same year.

Parishioners in Donaghmore and neighbouring Galbally were informed of the news in an announcement read at Masses at the weekend. It is understood that Fr McAleer celebrated morning Mass in Donaghmore on Saturday but was not present for the vigil Mass later that evening.

The parish lies within the Archdiocese of Armagh, which released a statement but declined to name either the priest or the parish concerned. The Archbishop of Armagh is Eamon Martin, who as the Primate of All-Ireland is the head of the Catholic Church in Ireland.
The Archdiocese said that the priest had "voluntarily stood aside from his position because of concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí".
"The information received is historic and relates to a time prior to his time in ministry in the Archdiocese, and indeed prior to his ordination as a priest. The relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed."
The statement added that Archbishop Martin has appealed for prayers for all concerned while "stressing that the priest continues to be entitled to the natural right of every person to the presumption of innocence pending the completion of all relevant state and Church processes."

Gardai did not respond to requests for a comment

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Re: Clerical abuse!
« Reply #2643 on: October 08, 2018, 06:44:39 PM »
hartes buddies starting to drop like flys. first bishop mc areavey now mc aleer.

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« Reply #2644 on: October 08, 2018, 10:29:05 PM »
Not a very likeable person from my own personal experiences in St Pats Armagh. Didnt strike me as very Christian.

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« Reply #2645 on: October 08, 2018, 10:34:22 PM »
Not a very likeable person from my own personal experiences in St Pats Armagh. Didnt strike me as very Christian.

He certainly was a strange being. However important to point out the allegations are not of a sexual nature and they relate to a time before he was ordained, over 40 years ago. Difficult to investigate this given how memories fade over time. 

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« Reply #2646 on: October 08, 2018, 10:40:35 PM »
Not of a sexual nature ? Where was this stated?

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« Reply #2647 on: October 08, 2018, 10:56:33 PM »
Funny i said today it wouldn't surprise me if the accusations were of a non sexual nature and quite possibly could be physical abuse.

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« Reply #2648 on: October 08, 2018, 10:59:14 PM »
the statement released by the church does not say whether it was sexual or not.

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« Reply #2649 on: October 08, 2018, 11:48:08 PM »
They’re non sexual

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« Reply #2650 on: October 09, 2018, 07:07:30 AM »
They’re non sexual

How do you know for certain?

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« Reply #2651 on: October 09, 2018, 11:47:44 AM »
They’re non sexual

How do you know for certain?

I'm reliably informed that is the case.

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« Reply #2652 on: October 09, 2018, 01:33:34 PM »
Was in St.Patricks Academy at the time McAleer was in charge.

Doubt its sexual, wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was physical as previously stated - not a very pleasant man I'm afraid.

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« Reply #2653 on: October 09, 2018, 02:25:07 PM »
I remember him dishing out digs to lads, particularly boarders at school, all the time. He periodically would kick me if I had my legs stretched out under the desk. He put one lad in the bin for most of a class many times. He definitely was old school when it came to that kind of thing. Acted more like my Dad's school teachers from 60s and 70s than you would have expected in the 90s.
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« Reply #2654 on: October 09, 2018, 02:54:42 PM »
I remember him dishing out digs to lads, particularly boarders at school, all the time. He periodically would kick me if I had my legs stretched out under the desk. He put one lad in the bin for most of a class many times. He definitely was old school when it came to that kind of thing. Acted more like my Dad's school teachers from 60s and 70s than you would have expected in the 90s.

There was always a wickedness in him from memory and he wasn't afraid to remind of his boxing days.  A few of the boarders seemed to be singled out most of the time too.