Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Tyrone95]

The reserve re structure may have been worth a go but I do not think it would of been of any benefit to the club player whatsoever.  Like stated before, it would be making a clear divide in who is good enough for senior football and who isn't - this putting players off going back out when they know they won't be playing on the sunday. The underage re structure is a bigger farce!! Who in their right mind thinks running the u16 league alongside minors is a good idea. For training alone most minor teams are made up of u16's - this means most clubs will probably have to join both training's together leaving younger/weaker u16's not being able to compete with the minors at 18 years of age. I hope it does work out for the best and I eat my words but at the moment it is hard to see how it can be compatible.

[Aaron Boone]

If I can be arsed, I'll try and compile the number of DNF's from a longer time period later...

OK, I'm arsed.

The following is by the number of times in the last three seasons a club has forefitted/CONC/DNF/WO a Reserve league fixture, figures in brackets refer to games conceeded in 2019, 2018 then 2017). Nominally this should be 45 games in total per team (Dregish fielded no reserve team in this time period) but some fixtures may have ended up not being played and were simply scratched.

22 Urney (13/5/4)

21 Derrytresk (5/11/5)

19 Moy (10/7/2)

15 Castlederg (4/5/6), Stewartstown (13/2/0)

14 Aghaloo (3/6/5)

13 Brocagh (2/4/7)

12 Brackaville (3/5/4)

11 Glenelly (3/6/2), Strabane (7/3/1)

10 Augher (2/2/6), Beragh (4/0/6), Derrylaughan (8/2/0), Edendork (8/0/2)

9 Killeeshil (3/2/4), Killyclogher (1/4/4), Moortown (4/0/5)

8 Cookstown (0/1/8)

7 Drumquin (6/1/0), Trillick (4/3/0)

6 Fintona (2/0/4), Killyman (2/0/4), Newtownstewart (0/3/3)

5 Ardboe (2/3/0) Errigal Ciaran (Junior) (5/0/0), Gortin (0/0/5)

4 Clann na nGael (3/1/0), Eskra (0/3/1), Pomeroy (0/3/1)

3 Dungannon (2/1/0), Galbally (0/0/3), Loughmacrory (0/3/0), Rock (0/1/2)

2 Coalisland (1/1/0)

1 Carrickmore (0/1/0), Clonoe (0/1/0), Donaghmore (1/0/0), Dromore (0/1/0), Errigal Ciaran (Senior) (1/0/0), Greencastle (1/0/0), Kildress (0/1/0), Omagh (1/0/0)

A few clubs clearly had a bit of a struggle in one season but had few problems otherwise, but a few others also seem to have consistent issues.

And yes, I'll begrudgly give credit to T***yreagh whom have not conceeded a tie in the reserve leagues in the last three years, especially as they were on a hiding to nothing last year. Normal service now resumes...

Well done on compiling this.

[Eire90]

Do leagues have playoffs to determine champion or just the top team is champions.

[GetOverTheBar]

Do leagues have playoffs to determine champion or just the top team is champions.

Only league to have a playoff is D1.

[Christmas Lights]

Fionn Dromore never conceded a reserve game in 2018, haven't to my knowledge conceded a reserve game in at least 10 years.

From tyronegaa.ie/fixtures-results-2018

Sun 21st Oct 18

An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait (CONC) v (0-0) Domhnach Mór Naoimh Pádraig

ACFL Division 1 Reserve 2018 9
12:00 PM

Dayum son

[WT4E]

CARRICKMORE SAYS NO

[chieftain]

CARRICKMORE SAYS NO

So we all abide by them 

[Tyrone95]

CARRICKMORE SAYS NO

So we all abide by them 

Take from it what you will.  Majority wins - Do the math. 

[Christmas Lights]

Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

[Wee Roddy]

Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

[blackball]

Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

Why would it not be possible to be on the senior squad if the reserve game was played on a different night? that argument makes absolutely no sense!

[Redhand Santa]

Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

If the reserves are played on a different day what's to stop them being on the senior squad? The senior team will still needs subs like is currently the case.

If anything it would be better for a reserve player being asked to come on for the seniors as he won't have already played a game that day. Also it would mean players not being held back for the senior game who could end up getting little or no game time that week at all.

[Tyrone95]

Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

Why would it not be possible to be on the senior squad if the reserve game was played on a different night? that argument makes absolutely no sense!

So you are actually expecting lads to tog out twice within 2 days.. maybe not featuring in a senior match then travelling to probably the same opponent again to play a reserve match on a monday evening with next to no one at the match. I think it's your deluded argument that makes absolutely no sense

[Under Lights]

Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

Why would it not be possible to be on the senior squad if the reserve game was played on a different night? that argument makes absolutely no sense!

So you are actually expecting lads to tog out twice within 2 days.. maybe not featuring in a senior match then travelling to probably the same opponent again to play a reserve match on a monday evening with next to no one at the match. I think it's your deluded argument that makes absolutely no sense

I don't think you've understood the proposal Tyrone95.

[WT4E]

Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

OUCH!

But sure Carrickmores all about tradition Hi!

Our club where against it from what I hear and the players where never consulted. From a purely selfish point of view I thought it would have been to our benefit letting lads play teams of a better quality as they only had about 3-4 competitive league fixtures last year.