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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41880 on: October 27, 2019, 09:51:16 PM »
County board would really need to do a review of the league structures.
Situation in division 2 with a number of teams tied on 13 points for the final play off place and seemingly none of them wanting to be in them. Would it not make sense to cut the play offs altogether or atleast cut the amount of teams that play in them.
Fixtures dragging on in mid-late November maybe December.
Surely it can't be too much of an ask to plan for all fixtures to be played pre-championship. Im sure plans could be put in place for club league games be played alongside the Senior Team making the AI Semi Finals and the U20's winning Ulster each year.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41881 on: October 27, 2019, 10:02:16 PM »
Yeah, I see no point in the playoffs. Especially for a county which struggles to get its leagues completed by winter. A needless extension.


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« Reply #41882 on: October 27, 2019, 10:33:28 PM »
Think the reason playoffs were introduced was to stop teams from throwing games a lot earlier in the season. Massive overhaul is needed for club football. Something really needs sorted for Reserve football as it is effectively dead.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41883 on: October 27, 2019, 10:38:46 PM »
How does it help? There appears to be little appetite for playoffs.


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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41884 on: October 27, 2019, 10:39:18 PM »
Think the reason playoffs were introduced was to stop teams from throwing games a lot earlier in the season. Massive overhaul is needed for club football. Something really needs sorted for Reserve football as it is effectively dead.

Always thought it was a compromise to allow club games to be played on without involvement of county players?

Agree that a major overhaul is needed for club football. The current system isn't sustainable.

Edit: Any word on the proposed Dregish/Newtownstewart amalgamation? No mention of it on either of their FB pages, and Dregish are even advertising a Bazzar fundraiser for 1st December.
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« Reply #41885 on: October 28, 2019, 12:33:47 AM »
Division 2 crying out for last day of season Gillette soccer saturday treatment... By the look of it Beragh and Urney only two teams who know their fate. Unbelievable Jeff!

Beragh can mathematically make the promotion play offs.
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« Reply #41886 on: October 28, 2019, 08:14:46 AM »

Loughmacrory making waves around the county again for all the wrong reasons. Refusing to change the game today after a death in the Strabane club leading Strabane to concede the game. Very unnecessary.
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Lough changed the time of the game twice at Strabane's request, first til 2pm then til 11am. Then Strabane decided not to field.

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« Reply #41887 on: October 28, 2019, 08:52:34 AM »
It has been voted down in the past (Most likely by non-playing dinosaurs like at National Level), but what about introducing 1B again - So essentially 3 Leagues x 12 teams and 1 x 13?
Or even break it down further again into 5 Leagues x 8 teams and 1 x 9? Play 7 starred and 7 non-starred.
Both options are feasible with the removal of playoffs so can be complete before championship begins. League & Championship Winners promoted, with bottom 2 relegated. Possibly play off 3rd top v 3rd bottom?
League Standings could be seeded for championship the following season to maintain appetite.
Reserve football is dying a slow death - Change is needed ASAP. We will have to break from tradition and split senior & reserve link. Expecting reserves to still be playing football in November is ridiculous.

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« Reply #41888 on: October 28, 2019, 09:02:37 AM »
Reserve football is dying a slow death - Change is needed ASAP. We will have to break from tradition and split senior & reserve link. Expecting reserves to still be playing football in November is ridiculous.

20 out of 24 reserve games conceded yesterday. Have all 3 reserve championships even been completed? I know the intermediate was on last week but donít think senior has been played and not sure about junior?

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« Reply #41889 on: October 28, 2019, 09:03:01 AM »
What will happen in Division 2 if there are more than 2 clubs on 15 points after the last round of fixtures? More playoffs to make playoffs? Aghyaran guaranteed to be on 15 points anyway as Urney have packed up for the year after yesterday. Be interesting to see how the others on 13 fair out. We only have another fortnight to wait to find out!!

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41890 on: October 28, 2019, 09:12:37 AM »
Reserve football is dying a slow death - Change is needed ASAP. We will have to break from tradition and split senior & reserve link. Expecting reserves to still be playing football in November is ridiculous.

20 out of 24 reserve games conceded yesterday. Have all 3 reserve championships even been completed? I know the intermediate was on last week but donít think senior has been played and not sure about junior?

Junior reserve championship final still not played. Which is frustrating from our clubs point of view. We where forced by county board to play (tried to get other club to agree change but didn't work for them) semi final 2 days before a senior championship game and with the new rules on player eligibilty our managers obviously had to make a call and prioritised the senior game understandably. We had 4 seniors on the bench. We had thought at the time county board must want to get it wrapped up but still hasn't been played. More BS from county fixtures comm.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41891 on: October 28, 2019, 09:17:38 AM »
Think the reason playoffs were introduced was to stop teams from throwing games a lot earlier in the season. Massive overhaul is needed for club football. Something really needs sorted for Reserve football as it is effectively dead.

Always thought it was a compromise to allow club games to be played on without involvement of county players?

Agree that a major overhaul is needed for club football. The current system isn't sustainable.

Edit: Any word on the proposed Dregish/Newtownstewart amalgamation? No mention of it on either of their FB pages, and Dregish are even advertising a Bazzar fundraiser for 1st December.

Yes that was another big reason for the playoffs as well.

Agree with other poster about decoupling the Reserve League from Senior League.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41892 on: October 28, 2019, 09:19:14 AM »
Think the reason playoffs were introduced was to stop teams from throwing games a lot earlier in the season. Massive overhaul is needed for club football. Something really needs sorted for Reserve football as it is effectively dead.

Always thought it was a compromise to allow club games to be played on without involvement of county players?

Agree that a major overhaul is needed for club football. The current system isn't sustainable.

Edit: Any word on the proposed Dregish/Newtownstewart amalgamation? No mention of it on either of their FB pages, and Dregish are even advertising a Bazzar fundraiser for 1st December.
They will be playing next year under the name Naomh Eoghan.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41893 on: October 28, 2019, 09:24:58 AM »
If Newtownstewart stay up I assume this new amalgamation will stay in division 2? I remember when Clan na Gael formed they started life in division 3. Though maybe those clubs that joined were already in division 3? One for Fionntamhnach to answer maybe.

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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #41894 on: October 28, 2019, 09:32:45 AM »
What will happen in Division 2 if there are more than 2 clubs on 15 points after the last round of fixtures? More playoffs to make playoffs? Aghyaran guaranteed to be on 15 points anyway as Urney have packed up for the year after yesterday. Be interesting to see how the others on 13 fair out. We only have another fortnight to wait to find out!!

Probably. When three or more clubs are involved, score difference comes into play. However if any of the teams in question either conceded or were given a walkover in any league game then they must play-off for the final league position if it concerns relegation or promotion. So if Augher is among any of those whom finish on say 15pts on a three-way or bigger tie, then play-off matches will be required to determine who finishes sixth in the final league table for the promotion play-offs.

If you were to "freeze" the Division 2 table as it stands, Galbally would win the league, Loughmacrory would take automatic promotion, Pomeroy, Clogher & Owen Roes would enter the promotion play-offs, while there would be a five-way play-off for the final spot between Augher, Greencastle, Gortin, Aghyaran & Moortown due to Augher giving Owen Roes a w/o. This would involve three "rounds" of games, with the eventual winner meeting Pomeroy in the promotion play-offs, while Clogher & Owen Roes would face each other in the other game.

Talk about grim. 😧
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