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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #37665 on: May 15, 2018, 07:08:42 PM »
Was a feisty game to say the least in greencastle yesterday. Carson had the ball at the time of the incident and was a dirty hit but he got a red card and that should be the end of it. cant see how it warrants more than a 1 game suspension just because the injury sustained was more serious. why treat it differently than any other strike?

Outside of the left you cant actually think this small curly haired p***k didn't mean what he did? in a court of law it would be GBH simple as that, remember one punch incident can be life threatening as we know in Omagh in the past 5 years. no place for it anywhere let alone a football match.

Lough were winning by 5 when it happened the lad must be a complete tr**p to do such a thing.

The player that struck has a long running history of this type of thuggery. Only way to stop him from doing it is to remove him from playing!!

So if Mark Carson receives a career ending injury, What you are saying is a 1 match ban is enough?? Punishment doesn't fit the crime imo!!![/b]

the injury cant affect the suspension, the exact same incident could happen again next week and the player on the receiving end could jump back up and there wouldnt be a word about it. Worst thing is it wasnt even the dirtiest hit in the game
Aye the Loughmacrory corner backs strike on the Greencastle man in the build up to the Loughmacrory goal was a dirty hit to.
Sludden seen it and decided to ignore it just like the incident with Carson.

It is also worth mentioning the fact there were a lot of Greencastle men giving nasty hits throughout the pitch and the fact an individual player from Greencastle got black carded in the first half, made his way down to kick two Loughmacrory boys on the ground when the row was on. Not acceptable and if the Loughmacrory member who jumped the wire is punished, that man should be too.
Loughmacrory man jumping the fence is a serious offence, a much more serious offence than what you are writing above about.

As for a lot of nasty Greencastle hits. From all the posts ive gathered it was an intense game, lot going on, the Loughmacroy goal apparently came from a greencastle man getting struck off the ball and also the nastiest hit came from Loughmacrory who caused a serious injury, a melee and the game to be abandoned. So wouldn't just be sitting there trying to blame Greencastle for what happened.

What way is Mark Carson now from Sunday? I didnít hear much else about him apart from some of the nonsense posted on here! hopefully on the better side of it!

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« Reply #37666 on: May 15, 2018, 08:27:03 PM »
Saw a screenshot of a post he sent in a watsapp group (assuming it's GC players group) from Monday morning saying all scans etc came back clear and he may have small fracture to his eye socket, although couldn't tell due to swelling. Was out of hospital that evening id assume. Hopefully he's back on the field asap.

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« Reply #37667 on: May 15, 2018, 09:34:39 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?
If they are fielding 4 teams including subs they would definitely have the biggest playing squad by a long way. However that may not correlate directly to the biggest pick, just the best retention of players.
I would think that if a couple of the other big clubs started to put out a third team to provide more playing opportunities their pick would soon increase.
There is plenty of us would like to play a bit of ball without having to train 3 days a week and follow a gym programme and diet.

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« Reply #37668 on: May 15, 2018, 11:30:18 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?
If they are fielding 4 teams including subs they would definitely have the biggest playing squad by a long way. However that may not correlate directly to the biggest pick, just the best retention of players.
I would think that if a couple of the other big clubs started to put out a third team to provide more playing opportunities their pick would soon increase.
There is plenty of us would like to play a bit of ball without having to train 3 days a week and follow a gym programme and diet.

Well tough luck mate,  football doesn't work like that. If you had that attitude even playing division 3, you'd be tanked every game. I would argue that You can't play football now at any level without doing the appropriate training. It's no Craic either when your not fit and your blowing out if your hole after 10 minutes trying to chase the opposition around the pitch. You want a handy time, then football isn't for you mate, you may go play bowls or something.

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« Reply #37669 on: May 16, 2018, 06:41:33 AM »
Didn't there used to be a recreational league

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« Reply #37670 on: May 16, 2018, 09:09:36 AM »
Have said it before on here; there's a requirement for a recreational league.
  • 8 weeks
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  • No posponements or refixtures
Its the sort of thing a club could run off as a fundraiser. Team entrance fees contributed by those playing, so no burden on the clubs represented. Club running it gets those fees.
They could even run it as a Garvaghy fundraiser and play the games up there
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 09:57:11 AM by WeeDonns »

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« Reply #37671 on: May 16, 2018, 10:29:01 AM »
Who will organise this league. There is underage girls and boys matches/training nearly every night on club pitches so getting at  evening that would suit all wouldn't happen. It would turn into a farce after a bit. Between injurys, clubs being open to injury claims as it wouldn't be sanctioned by the county board. Div 3 reserve football is as close as your get to something like that. Mental what some people can dream up off. Daydreamers half of Yous

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« Reply #37672 on: May 16, 2018, 10:48:10 AM »
debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?
If they are fielding 4 teams including subs they would definitely have the biggest playing squad by a long way. However that may not correlate directly to the biggest pick, just the best retention of players.
I would think that if a couple of the other big clubs started to put out a third team to provide more playing opportunities their pick would soon
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this increase.
There is plenty of us would like to play a bit of ball without having to train 3 days a week and follow a gym programme and diet.

Well tough luck mate,  football doesn't work like that. If you had that attitude even playing division 3, you'd be tanked every game. I would argue that You can't play football now at any level without doing the appropriate training. It's no Craic either when your not fit and your blowing out if your hole after 10 minutes trying to chase the opposition around the pitch. You want a handy time, then football isn't for you mate, you may go play bowls or something.
I still manage the odd game but cheers for the fitness assessment.

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« Reply #37673 on: May 16, 2018, 11:27:59 AM »
Who will organise this league. There is underage girls and boys matches/training nearly every night on club pitches so getting at  evening that would suit all wouldn't happen. It would turn into a farce after a bit. Between injurys, clubs being open to injury claims as it wouldn't be sanctioned by the county board. Div 3 reserve football is as close as your get to something like that. Mental what some people can dream up off. Daydreamers half of Yous

It's a great idea to be fair, but in reality it would hit problems. Because it's recreational and there isn't as much onus on players, you'd find it hard to have the numbers week in and week out. There'd be games cancelled due to lack of numbers every week as people just wouldn't invest as heavily in it. Which is a pity as it would be great for the pool of players who are either past it or not prepared to put in the effort of training 4 days a week. 
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« Reply #37674 on: May 16, 2018, 11:28:59 AM »
Who will organise this league. There is underage girls and boys matches/training nearly every night on club pitches so getting at  evening that would suit all wouldn't happen. It would turn into a farce after a bit. Between injurys, clubs being open to injury claims as it wouldn't be sanctioned by the county board. Div 3 reserve football is as close as your get to something like that. Mental what some people can dream up off. Daydreamers half of Yous

Here's a man who knows a thing or two about the in and outs of football related insurances and sanctions.   Great post.  Agree with you on the daydream believers. 

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« Reply #37675 on: May 16, 2018, 12:17:57 PM »
This seems to have moved on from having a thirds team which does not have to train as much to a recreational league. As a few have indicated the recreational league could run into insurance issues unless sanctioned by County board and under the auspices of individual clubs.

However I would still contend that the clubs with the bigger population centres could increase their playing numbers by having a Thirds team which does not have the same level of commitment as a Senior player in a Division 1 club.

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« Reply #37676 on: May 16, 2018, 12:19:43 PM »
Who will organise this league. There is underage girls and boys matches/training nearly every night on club pitches so getting at  evening that would suit all wouldn't happen. It would turn into a farce after a bit. Between injurys, clubs being open to injury claims as it wouldn't be sanctioned by the county board. Div 3 reserve football is as close as your get to something like that. Mental what some people can dream up off. Daydreamers half of Yous

Here's a man who knows a thing or two about the in and outs of football related insurances and sanctions.   Great post.  Agree with you on the daydream believers.

7 or 9 a side is the way to go.

Off the bat... blitz style league, very successful on the touch rugby scene in England.

Name squad of 15, £30 per player to enter, subs roll on/off.

You'll find if someone has paid a few quid to play in a summer 7s league they'll turn up most weeks.

A bit like block booking a 5 a side sports hall or paying for a set of gym classes in advance.

Use certain clubs or schools as hubs, not all facilities are in frequent use.

Its not rocket science, sure they've even introduced walking rugby, did we beat them to it with daydream Gaelic?

You want it lads go out there and get it started and good luck.

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« Reply #37677 on: May 16, 2018, 12:53:30 PM »
This seems to have moved on from having a thirds team which does not have to train as much to a recreational league. As a few have indicated the recreational league could run into insurance issues unless sanctioned by County board and under the auspices of individual clubs.

However I would still contend that the clubs with the bigger population centres could increase their playing numbers by having a Thirds team which does not have the same level of commitment as a Senior player in a Division 1 club.

Carrickmore had one a few years ago as well I think. But they struggled to keep the numbers together.
With regards to commitment. If they were looking to be competitive in D3 they would require a fair level of commitment. Most of the Div 3 teams train as much as a lot of  Div 1 & 2.
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« Reply #37678 on: May 16, 2018, 01:03:09 PM »
This seems to have moved on from having a thirds team which does not have to train as much to a recreational league. As a few have indicated the recreational league could run into insurance issues unless sanctioned by County board and under the auspices of individual clubs.

However I would still contend that the clubs with the bigger population centres could increase their playing numbers by having a Thirds team which does not have the same level of commitment as a Senior player in a Division 1 club.

Carrickmore had one a few years ago as well I think. But they struggled to keep the numbers together.
With regards to commitment. If they were looking to be competitive in D3 they would require a fair level of commitment. Most of the Div 3 teams train as much as a lot of  Div 1 & 2.


Agreed. If you are not training 2/3 nights a week regularly you will get left behind very quickly in D3 - speaking from personal experience! Errigal thirds struggled for a few years but seem to be taking it a lot more seriously now and are beating some of the top ranked teams in the league.

Tiempo's idea is a good one. Would this type of competition not face the same resistance from County Board/Croke Park as the over 40's though?

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« Reply #37679 on: May 16, 2018, 01:20:37 PM »
What's the whole insurance debate thing about really, if there was a recreational club just treat it like the Cookstown Street League or whatever, you don't worry about insurance with playing a bit of indoor with your mates. How does the competion that Galbally run every year work like.