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« Reply #34725 on: April 21, 2017, 03:14:57 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

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« Reply #34726 on: April 21, 2017, 03:18:26 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

The games continue in Dublin without them, they come to a standstill here when county men aren't available. If Tyrone clubs adopted a policy of fielding without county men and it meant constant football for all club players both senior and reserve id be all for it.
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« Reply #34727 on: April 21, 2017, 03:19:39 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

Yeah there is a load going round twitter today about a Ballyboden exodus to the states I am sure the yankee clubs are swarming.

And you have a point, think the problem is harte has been about so long, and dropped so many players that all their fellow club men take this as a personal insults. These guys are all waiting in the wings to slam him and having a field day now.

You will never please some yaps and they will be the first out celebrating if tyrone win ulster

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« Reply #34728 on: April 21, 2017, 03:33:09 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

On the last point too this was one training weekend and one weekend set of fixtures that he requested to change (not cancel). One out of 6 pre the Derry game, the other 5 will go ahead with no issue I'm sure and one he wanted to move to midweek. Things are being blown out of proportion.

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« Reply #34729 on: April 21, 2017, 03:41:00 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

The games continue in Dublin without them, they come to a standstill here when county men aren't available. If Tyrone clubs adopted a policy of fielding without county men and it meant constant football for all club players both senior and reserve id be all for it.

Wouldn't like to see it get to that stage as games are better for having the best players involved. Some form of compromise is needed though. Definitely thought the county board solution of 11 starred games would have improved the fixtures with more regular games all summer. Was surprised how many were against it.

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« Reply #34730 on: April 21, 2017, 03:51:33 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

Yeah there is a load going round twitter today about a Ballyboden exodus to the states I am sure the yankee clubs are swarming.

And you have a point, think the problem is harte has been about so long, and dropped so many players that all their fellow club men take this as a personal insults. These guys are all waiting in the wings to slam him and having a field day now.

You will never please some yaps and they will be the first out celebrating if tyrone win ulster
the only people who will be celebrating  winning ulster playin muck football are assholes like you in mickeys cult.

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« Reply #34731 on: April 21, 2017, 03:51:37 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

The games continue in Dublin without them, they come to a standstill here when county men aren't available. If Tyrone clubs adopted a policy of fielding without county men and it meant constant football for all club players both senior and reserve id be all for it.

Wouldn't like to see it get to that stage as games are better for having the best players involved. Some form of compromise is needed though. Definitely thought the county board solution of 11 starred games would have improved the fixtures with more regular games all summer. Was surprised how many were against it.

Cant understand anyone being against it. If club players were getting games consistently then the majority would be happy. It is eventually going to get to the stage that players are contracted to Tyrone and wont get to play for their clubs like rugby. Not something I would like to see but that's the road its heading imo.
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« Reply #34732 on: April 21, 2017, 04:02:44 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

On the last point too this was one training weekend and one weekend set of fixtures that he requested to change (not cancel). One out of 6 pre the Derry game, the other 5 will go ahead with no issue I'm sure and one he wanted to move to midweek. Things are being blown out of proportion.

Wouldn't be so sure about this bit!

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« Reply #34733 on: April 21, 2017, 04:25:32 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

Yeah there is a load going round twitter today about a Ballyboden exodus to the states I am sure the yankee clubs are swarming.

And you have a point, think the problem is harte has been about so long, and dropped so many players that all their fellow club men take this as a personal insults. These guys are all waiting in the wings to slam him and having a field day now.

You will never please some yaps and they will be the first out celebrating if tyrone win ulster

believe it or not a lot of people arent too bothered if Tyrone win Ulster or not and loyalty is primarily to their clubs.

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« Reply #34734 on: April 21, 2017, 04:33:45 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

Yeah there is a load going round twitter today about a Ballyboden exodus to the states I am sure the yankee clubs are swarming.

And you have a point, think the problem is harte has been about so long, and dropped so many players that all their fellow club men take this as a personal insults. These guys are all waiting in the wings to slam him and having a field day now.

You will never please some yaps and they will be the first out celebrating if tyrone win ulster

believe it or not a lot of people arent too bothered if Tyrone win Ulster or not and loyalty is primarily to their clubs.

It is possible to be loyal to and support both though which some people on here seem to think it's not. We're all Tyrone men too and most people are happy to suppprt the county when going well.

If they'd sort the fixtures and get regular games for club players there would surely be less issues. At least the change in structure by the county board was an attempt to help fix the issue over regular games. Pity it hadn't gone through.

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« Reply #34735 on: April 21, 2017, 04:58:48 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

Yeah there is a load going round twitter today about a Ballyboden exodus to the states I am sure the yankee clubs are swarming.

And you have a point, think the problem is harte has been about so long, and dropped so many players that all their fellow club men take this as a personal insults. These guys are all waiting in the wings to slam him and having a field day now.

You will never please some yaps and they will be the first out celebrating if tyrone win ulster

believe it or not a lot of people arent too bothered if Tyrone win Ulster or not and loyalty is primarily to their clubs.

It is possible to be loyal to and support both though which some people on here seem to think it's not. We're all Tyrone men too and most people are happy to suppprt the county when going well.

If they'd sort the fixtures and get regular games for club players there would surely be less issues. At least the change in structure by the county board was an attempt to help fix the issue over regular games. Pity it hadn't gone through.

If that happened but treatment of club is causing so much resentment...

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« Reply #34736 on: April 21, 2017, 09:52:08 PM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

Yeah there is a load going round twitter today about a Ballyboden exodus to the states I am sure the yankee clubs are swarming.

And you have a point, think the problem is harte has been about so long, and dropped so many players that all their fellow club men take this as a personal insults. These guys are all waiting in the wings to slam him and having a field day now.

You will never please some yaps and they will be the first out celebrating if tyrone win ulster
the only people who will be celebrating  winning ulster playin muck football are assholes like you in mickeys cult.
when Tyrone won Ulster last year their were only 37 or 38 fans on the pitch. How pathetic, a ringing endorsement of this puke fest.

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« Reply #34737 on: April 22, 2017, 12:25:45 AM »
Dublin are the best team in Ireland - They played there 1st round of championship last night and this included U21 players who have an all ireland final tomorrow week.

I know there are similarities with other counties but for people to be blind to what Micky is doing in this case says to me that they are merely followers of a cult leader.

Calling late player away weekends - calling late training games - telling players not to play - Its just not right!

And if Tyrone played their club championship games this early there'd be a huge outcry that it was for money or to get the games out of the road.

And if we're going to talk Dublin why not compare the player availability v Tyrone. McMahon or copper from Dublin recently said they only played 4 games for their club last year due to county commitments. Gavin has huge access too his players.

Yeah there is a load going round twitter today about a Ballyboden exodus to the states I am sure the yankee clubs are swarming.

And you have a point, think the problem is harte has been about so long, and dropped so many players that all their fellow club men take this as a personal insults. These guys are all waiting in the wings to slam him and having a field day now.

You will never please some yaps and they will be the first out celebrating if tyrone win ulster
the only people who will be celebrating  winning ulster playin muck football are assholes like you in mickeys cult.
when Tyrone won Ulster last year their were only 37 or 38 fans on the pitch. How pathetic, a ringing endorsement of this puke fest.

Wise up there was definitely  at least 39

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« Reply #34738 on: April 22, 2017, 07:24:19 AM »
Yeah cause a new manager is going to come in and free up the players to play club football every weekend whilst still having Tyrone winning all Irelands playing open attacking football. The only issue I have is with the timing of the request for the training weekend.

When you see what other counties are doing it wasn't an unreasonable request to have the players for one of the 6 weekends pre Derry game. He wasn't even demanding that the games were cancelled just moved to mid week.

Midweek games happen in local soccer and other counties and in a one off scenario weren't the big deal they were made out to be. Harte is far from perfect but has been allowed clubs access to their county players as much if not more than other top county managers in recent years.

This board has got terrible. Full of crying and yapping and over dramatising everything. Just like other forms of social media I guess. The majority of people now on the Tyrone pages complain in at least 75 per cent of messages. There's been 2 full rounds of club games and plenty of underage games with very little talked about them. The county players and management give an awful lot to the county and don't deserve half the crap they get.

I think you miss the point here. The issue here is with Harte as this is the Tyrone Forum. The fact that it happens elsewhere does not mean it's not a problem. Your argument is like claiming Global warming isn't a problem because China have more emissions than Ireland.

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« Reply #34739 on: April 22, 2017, 09:20:51 AM »
I don't think I've missed the point at all. There is a national issue with fixtures and county player availability. No matter who manages Tyrone the issue is going to be there. So there is no point attacking harte who when you look at other counties is pretty reasonable.

He is the appointed county manager and has to do what he thinks is best for the team. He is competing against other counties who are having week long training camps and more access to the players. He is expected to compete and has been seen here recently when things don't go well takes the blame and serious abuse for results. Everyone can't have it both ways.

The issue needs addressed nationally were designated periods are put in place for club football that can't be touched. Until then the county board need to do there best with the current structures to allow the county to remain competitive whilst allowing regular club games.

They came up with in my opinion a decent proposal which would have allowed 11 starred games and regular matches from June to August which is traditionally the period with biggest problem for fixtures. The clubs voted it down which I can't work out.