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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #40320 on: July 11, 2019, 07:56:00 PM »
Always liked Cavanagh as a player. But really starting to think he's just a w*nker

It's always been the latter.

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« Reply #40321 on: July 15, 2019, 11:03:26 AM »
I take it with the u20s win, the round of club fixtures on the 28th will be pulled also?
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« Reply #40322 on: July 15, 2019, 11:31:57 AM »
I take it with the u20s win, the round of club fixtures on the 28th will be pulled also?
All Ireland U20 semi final is on that weekend, with the absence of starred games, it will be pulled.
Probably looking at a starred round that weekend of the 9-11th August.

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« Reply #40323 on: July 16, 2019, 12:24:58 PM »
I take it with the u20s win, the round of club fixtures on the 28th will be pulled also?
All Ireland U20 semi final is on that weekend, with the absence of starred games, it will be pulled.
Probably looking at a starred round that weekend of the 9-11th August.

I'd say that is even in doubt now, with the decent result v Roscommon if Tyrone beat Cork that'll leave them on 4 points, assuming the Rossies don't beat Dublin they'll be in the Semi Final with a win. Semi Finals are down for 10/11.

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« Reply #40324 on: July 16, 2019, 02:24:57 PM »
It is becoming clear that Club football cannot co-exist with inter-county football in counties that regularly make the QF stage (especially through the back door).

A solution is to follow the Mayo approach (where county players hardly play club) and flip the Tyrone league as it currently stands. 10 games to be played without county players and 5 with (which I suppose we could define as "starred games" seeing as the county men are actually playing). To make up for the loss of county players, the rounds with county players could play would count for double points (4pts for a win; 2 for a draw), therefore giving county players the chance to help their teams gain 20pts, whilst leaving their teammates to collect the rest whilst the county season continues.

This approach would allow football to continue all summer, and the CCC could clearly pick 5 weekends where County Players would be available e.g. rounds 1-3 and rounds 14-15. If Tyrone are elimated earlier that QF/SF, then all games become "starred" games going forward.

A proposal went around a year or two ago suggesting 11 games with and 11 without, but that required a total overhaul of how Tyrone leagues look and play i.e. reduction from 16 to 12 teams per league. The above would undoubtedly dilute the league's standing slightly, but something seriously needs done before the floor collapses and we ruin football for the 99% to cater for the 1%.
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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #40325 on: July 16, 2019, 02:58:16 PM »
I take it with the u20s win, the round of club fixtures on the 28th will be pulled also?
All Ireland U20 semi final is on that weekend, with the absence of starred games, it will be pulled.
Probably looking at a starred round that weekend of the 9-11th August.

I'd say that is even in doubt now, with the decent result v Roscommon if Tyrone beat Cork that'll leave them on 4 points, assuming the Rossies don't beat Dublin they'll be in the Semi Final with a win. Semi Finals are down for 10/11.

Would Tyrone playing in a All Ireland Semi-Final on the weekend of 10/11 August prevent a round of starred League fixtures from being held that weekend? Provided that there is no u20 game taking place.

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« Reply #40326 on: July 16, 2019, 02:59:50 PM »
It is becoming clear that Club football cannot co-exist with inter-county football in counties that regularly make the QF stage (especially through the back door).

A solution is to follow the Mayo approach (where county players hardly play club) and flip the Tyrone league as it currently stands. 10 games to be played without county players and 5 with (which I suppose we could define as "starred games" seeing as the county men are actually playing). To make up for the loss of county players, the rounds with county players could play would count for double points (4pts for a win; 2 for a draw), therefore giving county players the chance to help their teams gain 20pts, whilst leaving their teammates to collect the rest whilst the county season continues.

This approach would allow football to continue all summer, and the CCC could clearly pick 5 weekends where County Players would be available e.g. rounds 1-3 and rounds 14-15. If Tyrone are elimated earlier that QF/SF, then all games become "starred" games going forward.

A proposal went around a year or two ago suggesting 11 games with and 11 without, but that required a total overhaul of how Tyrone leagues look and play i.e. reduction from 16 to 12 teams per league. The above would undoubtedly dilute the league's standing slightly, but something seriously needs done before the floor collapses and we ruin football for the 99% to cater for the 1%.

+1

Been saying for years GAA is in danger of following Irish Rugby and killing the club game completly, just tocater to the "elite" and county players become paid

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« Reply #40327 on: July 16, 2019, 03:00:10 PM »
Division 3 games were pulled a few weeks ago on the basis that young Nugent from the Rock is on the U20 panel. So for the sake of 1 player who didnít even come on in the u20 match, 400+ club players were sat twiddling their thumbs during the period where you want to be playing football. I donít blame the player, club or county but something drastic needs done here. There is a lot of unhappy club players at the minute.

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« Reply #40328 on: July 16, 2019, 03:23:13 PM »
I take it with the u20s win, the round of club fixtures on the 28th will be pulled also?
All Ireland U20 semi final is on that weekend, with the absence of starred games, it will be pulled.
Probably looking at a starred round that weekend of the 9-11th August.

I'd say that is even in doubt now, with the decent result v Roscommon if Tyrone beat Cork that'll leave them on 4 points, assuming the Rossies don't beat Dublin they'll be in the Semi Final with a win. Semi Finals are down for 10/11.

Would Tyrone playing in a All Ireland Semi-Final on the weekend of 10/11 August prevent a round of starred League fixtures from being held that weekend? Provided that there is no u20 game taking place.

You have a slight, slight chance if Tyrone were down for playing the 11th and they set fixtures for the 10th. They won't play on the same day though.

At this stage you'll not play any club until Tyrone are out, think there is just one round of starred to play? They might "get them out of the way" but there'll be nothing else in stone until all resolved at county level.

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« Reply #40329 on: July 16, 2019, 04:34:54 PM »
Any word of reserve championships?

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« Reply #40330 on: July 16, 2019, 05:24:46 PM »
Any word of reserve championships?
Friday 2nd of August.

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« Reply #40331 on: July 17, 2019, 09:20:48 AM »
Any word of reserve championships?
Friday 2nd of August.

Think there was word sent out last night there will be some club fixtures Sunday week (28th)

Reserve Championship apparently Friday week (26th)

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« Reply #40332 on: July 17, 2019, 10:42:38 AM »
Next round of club league fixtures is weekend of 10th/11th August (starred round 5)
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« Reply #40333 on: July 17, 2019, 10:53:44 AM »
Thats the weekend of All Ireland semi final's. If Tyrone qualify and are playing on 10th August, surely they won't put a full set of fixtures on 11th August?

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« Reply #40334 on: July 17, 2019, 10:58:27 AM »
Thats the weekend of All Ireland semi final's. If Tyrone qualify and are playing on 10th August, surely they won't put a full set of fixtures on 11th August?

The most likely scenario is that Tyrone finish second in the group, which means the potential AI semi final is on 11th.
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