The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Eamonnca1]

Iran has been obliterated!

Their Navy GONE

Their air force GONE

Total victory for Team USA!

Victory declared at least ten times...

Then came the 48 hour warning to Iran. Then 6 days that was extended to 10 days.

Now the Oompa Loompa is threatening to bomb desalination plants and oil wells. Bluffing moron has no idea who he is trying to bluff. Winning!

Meanwhile Iran calmly wrecks 6+ supertankers and an irreplacable AWACS plane that is one of only 16 in existence[700 million USD to replace] stationed at a Saudi base.

Iran have went from launching 400+ missiles per day at the start of March to about 10 a day now. Their missile launch centres have been decimated. 30 or 40 of their senior government officials have been killed including the big cheese himself.
Trump spouting incoherent nonsense does not discredit these facts.
The only "weapon" they have now is the price of oil.

Blah blah senior hurling blah blah Fermanagh Ulster Championship blah blah a dozen twitter links in one post.
Some amount of hot air on this thread.

Just ran a quick fact check using my favourite AI agent.

1. "Iran have went from launching 400+ missiles per day at the start of March to about 10 a day now."
This is broadly in the right ballpark but somewhat imprecise. On 5 March 2026, a military source told Fars News Agency that Iran had fired over 500 ballistic and naval missiles and almost 2,000 drones since 28 February Wikipedia — that's across the first several days total, not per day. By the tenth day of the war, Iranian missile and drone attacks had dropped by more than 90%, a reduction that was steeper than during the 2025 conflict and was credited to effective suppression efforts by US and Israeli missions over Iran. Wikipedia The direction of the claim is correct — attacks dropped sharply early on — but the "400+ per day" figure is hard to pin down precisely, and the current "~10 a day" figure is difficult to verify with precision. It's a reasonable characterisation of the general trend rather than exact numbers.

2. "Their missile launch centres have been decimated."
This is substantially true. Four of Iran's key ballistic missile manufacturing locations and at least 29 ballistic missile launch sites have been damaged in the first four weeks of the US-Israeli offensive, undermining Iran's central military strategy, according to a Washington Post review and analysis by experts. The Washington Post US and Israeli efforts have eliminated as many as three-quarters of Iranian missile launchers, including those that had been rebuilt. Wikipedia

3. "30 or 40 of their senior government officials have been killed."
This is accurate. Additional reports indicate four unnamed top officials from the Ministry of Intelligence were killed, contributing to an estimated total of around 40 officials. Wikipedia The IDF announced that the Israeli Air Force killed 40 senior Iranian commanders "within a minute" in the opening wave of the operation. The Jerusalem Post So "30 or 40" is a reasonable estimate for senior officials killed.

4. "Including the big cheese himself."
This is correct. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's supreme leader, was killed along with senior figures in the country's leadership in strikes carried out by the US and Israel. Early on Sunday, Iranian state-run news agency IRNA confirmed 86-year-old Khamenei's death. Al Jazeera National security chief Ali Larijani and Basij paramilitary commander Gholamreza Soleimani are among dozens of Iranian officials killed during the war. Many died along with the late Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on February 28, the first day of US and Israeli airstrikes. Axios

Summary: All four claims are broadly correct. The main caveat is that the specific "400+ missiles per day" figure is hard to verify — the high launch rates were real but likely refer to total launches in the opening days rather than a single day's count. Everything else checks out well.

[RadioGAAGAA]

The issue for orange man is; while that all may be true, he is arguably not an inch closer to a victory than he was when the first bomb was falling.

Clearly he either didn't think it through, and/or let himself be led by the nose.... or... didn't care. Suppose can't rule that out. He's possibly thought "I'm not getting another term, so I'll f**k everyone else to benefit myself", thinking then he can probably enrich himself on the commodities market with the yoyo-ing of oil to his press releases.

As long as Iranians can substantially threaten shipping in the gulf; then inflated oil prices in the US means Trump is always facing his own electoral defeat. But as said above, if he's done this as a big financial manipulation effort, maybe he doesn't care.

[Milltown Row2]

I think its not a shock to say whatever Donald has done, he's always done it for himself..

[marty34]

Trump is like a parent talking to his/her child.

Makes up stuff as they go along with no degree of certainty. Then switches and changes it 5 mins later to something totally different.

If you look at Trump's briefings this past few weeks, they're all over the place. One minute, saying one thing and then then next day, he says the complete opposite.

A complete clown. 

[johnnycool]

The issue for orange man is; while that all may be true, he is arguably not an inch closer to a victory than he was when the first bomb was falling.

Clearly he either didn't think it through, and/or let himself be led by the nose.... or... didn't care. Suppose can't rule that out. He's possibly thought "I'm not getting another term, so I'll f**k everyone else to benefit myself", thinking then he can probably enrich himself on the commodities market with the yoyo-ing of oil to his press releases.

As long as Iranians can substantially threaten shipping in the gulf; then inflated oil prices in the US means Trump is always facing his own electoral defeat. But as said above, if he's done this as a big financial manipulation effort, maybe he doesn't care.

The lack of any clear strategy from the US means they don't really know what "winning" is.

Killing the Ayatollah is like killing the Pope, another one will be elected, but the doctrine remains.

Getting the Strait of Hormuz opened may well be considered a win by some (if it happens) but then the Strait was open up until the US and Israel attacks started, so that in itself can only be realistically seen as a return to the norm.

Wiping out the nuclear threat, if one exists, will mean ground troops deep into the heart of Iran and that could come at a heavy price if they wish to remove enriched uranium.

Wiping out Iran's ballistic missile capability is only a temporary reprieve as the technology and knowhow is there and they'll regroup soon enough either with the help of Russia and China or not.

I don't know how this ends well for the US or Israel.

[seafoid]

The issue for orange man is; while that all may be true, he is arguably not an inch closer to a victory than he was when the first bomb was falling.

Clearly he either didn't think it through, and/or let himself be led by the nose.... or... didn't care. Suppose can't rule that out. He's possibly thought "I'm not getting another term, so I'll f**k everyone else to benefit myself", thinking then he can probably enrich himself on the commodities market with the yoyo-ing of oil to his press releases.

As long as Iranians can substantially threaten shipping in the gulf; then inflated oil prices in the US means Trump is always facing his own electoral defeat. But as said above, if he's done this as a big financial manipulation effort, maybe he doesn't care.

The lack of any clear strategy from the US means they don't really know what "winning" is.

Killing the Ayatollah is like killing the Pope, another one will be elected, but the doctrine remains.

Getting the Strait of Hormuz opened may well be considered a win by some (if it happens) but then the Strait was open up until the US and Israel attacks started, so that in itself can only be realistically seen as a return to the norm.

Wiping out the nuclear threat, if one exists, will mean ground troops deep into the heart of Iran and that could come at a heavy price if they wish to remove enriched uranium.

Wiping out Iran's ballistic missile capability is only a temporary reprieve as the technology and knowhow is there and they'll regroup soon enough either with the help of Russia and China or not.

I don't know how this ends well for the US or Israel.

Israel wanted to
turn Iran into a failed state. This mission has failed.
The Yanks also failed.
"The older I get the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology." Mencken

[DaleCooper]

Why are people repeating the "removing uranium" crap. This is obvious lies and nonsense designed to keep the narrative upheld.

Arch Neocon Robert Kagan[married to Vicky Nudleman] has put this out. Unprecedented tbh.

https://archive.is/aZrz9


"As for Israel, the United States committed to its defense out of a sense of moral responsibility after the Holocaust. This never had anything to do with American national-security interests. In fact, American officials from the beginning regarded support for Israel as contrary to U.S. interests. George C. Marshall opposed recognition in 1948, and Dean Acheson said that by recognizing Israel, the United States had succeeded Britain as "the most disliked power in the Middle East." During the Cold War, even supporters of Israel acknowledged that as a simple matter of "power politics," the United States had "every reason for wishing that Israel had never come into existence." But as Harry Truman put it, the decision to support the state of Israel was made "not in the light of oil, but in the light of justice."
Even the threat of terrorism from the region was a consequence of American involvement, not the reason for it. Had the United States not been deeply and consistently involved in the Muslim world since the 1940s, Islamic militants would have little interest in attacking an indifferent nation 5,000 miles and two oceans away. Contrary to much mythology, they have hated us not so much because of "who we are" but because of where we are".

[johnnycool]

Why are people repeating the "removing uranium" crap. This is obvious lies and nonsense designed to keep the narrative upheld.

Arch Neocon Robert Kagan[married to Vicky Nudleman] has put this out. Unprecedented tbh.

https://archive.is/aZrz9


"As for Israel, the United States committed to its defense out of a sense of moral responsibility after the Holocaust. This never had anything to do with American national-security interests. In fact, American officials from the beginning regarded support for Israel as contrary to U.S. interests. George C. Marshall opposed recognition in 1948, and Dean Acheson said that by recognizing Israel, the United States had succeeded Britain as "the most disliked power in the Middle East." During the Cold War, even supporters of Israel acknowledged that as a simple matter of "power politics," the United States had "every reason for wishing that Israel had never come into existence." But as Harry Truman put it, the decision to support the state of Israel was made "not in the light of oil, but in the light of justice."
Even the threat of terrorism from the region was a consequence of American involvement, not the reason for it. Had the United States not been deeply and consistently involved in the Muslim world since the 1940s, Islamic militants would have little interest in attacking an indifferent nation 5,000 miles and two oceans away. Contrary to much mythology, they have hated us not so much because of "who we are" but because of where we are".

It is pure BS, agreed, but I was just pointing out the nonsensical approach the US has taken with this war, they're making it up as they go along.

[JoG2]

The issue for orange man is; while that all may be true, he is arguably not an inch closer to a victory than he was when the first bomb was falling.

Clearly he either didn't think it through, and/or let himself be led by the nose.... or... didn't care. Suppose can't rule that out. He's possibly thought "I'm not getting another term, so I'll f**k everyone else to benefit myself", thinking then he can probably enrich himself on the commodities market with the yoyo-ing of oil to his press releases.

As long as Iranians can substantially threaten shipping in the gulf; then inflated oil prices in the US means Trump is always facing his own electoral defeat. But as said above, if he's done this as a big financial manipulation effort, maybe he doesn't care.

The lack of any clear strategy from the US means they don't really know what "winning" is.

Killing the Ayatollah is like killing the Pope, another one will be elected, but the doctrine remains.

Getting the Strait of Hormuz opened may well be considered a win by some (if it happens) but then the Strait was open up until the US and Israel attacks started, so that in itself can only be realistically seen as a return to the norm.

Wiping out the nuclear threat, if one exists, will mean ground troops deep into the heart of Iran and that could come at a heavy price if they wish to remove enriched uranium.

Wiping out Iran's ballistic missile capability is only a temporary reprieve as the technology and knowhow is there and they'll regroup soon enough either with the help of Russia and China or not.

I don't know how this ends well for the US or Israel.

Israel wanted to
turn Iran into a failed state. This mission has failed.
The Yanks also failed.
"The older I get the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology." Mencken

With negotiations ongoing , the nuclear threat thwarted, the only question has to be, what made Trump , without a Congressional green light start bombing Iran? What was said in the call from Israel that made him do it?

[johnnycool]

The issue for orange man is; while that all may be true, he is arguably not an inch closer to a victory than he was when the first bomb was falling.

Clearly he either didn't think it through, and/or let himself be led by the nose.... or... didn't care. Suppose can't rule that out. He's possibly thought "I'm not getting another term, so I'll f**k everyone else to benefit myself", thinking then he can probably enrich himself on the commodities market with the yoyo-ing of oil to his press releases.

As long as Iranians can substantially threaten shipping in the gulf; then inflated oil prices in the US means Trump is always facing his own electoral defeat. But as said above, if he's done this as a big financial manipulation effort, maybe he doesn't care.

The lack of any clear strategy from the US means they don't really know what "winning" is.

Killing the Ayatollah is like killing the Pope, another one will be elected, but the doctrine remains.

Getting the Strait of Hormuz opened may well be considered a win by some (if it happens) but then the Strait was open up until the US and Israel attacks started, so that in itself can only be realistically seen as a return to the norm.

Wiping out the nuclear threat, if one exists, will mean ground troops deep into the heart of Iran and that could come at a heavy price if they wish to remove enriched uranium.

Wiping out Iran's ballistic missile capability is only a temporary reprieve as the technology and knowhow is there and they'll regroup soon enough either with the help of Russia and China or not.

I don't know how this ends well for the US or Israel.

Israel wanted to
turn Iran into a failed state. This mission has failed.
The Yanks also failed.
"The older I get the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology." Mencken

With negotiations ongoing , the nuclear threat thwarted, the only question has to be, what made Trump , without a Congressional green light start bombing Iran? What was said in the call from Israel that made him do it?

You think Epstein wasn't working for Mossad then?

[Armagh18]

The issue for orange man is; while that all may be true, he is arguably not an inch closer to a victory than he was when the first bomb was falling.

Clearly he either didn't think it through, and/or let himself be led by the nose.... or... didn't care. Suppose can't rule that out. He's possibly thought "I'm not getting another term, so I'll f**k everyone else to benefit myself", thinking then he can probably enrich himself on the commodities market with the yoyo-ing of oil to his press releases.

As long as Iranians can substantially threaten shipping in the gulf; then inflated oil prices in the US means Trump is always facing his own electoral defeat. But as said above, if he's done this as a big financial manipulation effort, maybe he doesn't care.

The lack of any clear strategy from the US means they don't really know what "winning" is.

Killing the Ayatollah is like killing the Pope, another one will be elected, but the doctrine remains.

Getting the Strait of Hormuz opened may well be considered a win by some (if it happens) but then the Strait was open up until the US and Israel attacks started, so that in itself can only be realistically seen as a return to the norm.

Wiping out the nuclear threat, if one exists, will mean ground troops deep into the heart of Iran and that could come at a heavy price if they wish to remove enriched uranium.

Wiping out Iran's ballistic missile capability is only a temporary reprieve as the technology and knowhow is there and they'll regroup soon enough either with the help of Russia and China or not.

I don't know how this ends well for the US or Israel.

Israel wanted to
turn Iran into a failed state. This mission has failed.
The Yanks also failed.
"The older I get the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology." Mencken

With negotiations ongoing , the nuclear threat thwarted, the only question has to be, what made Trump , without a Congressional green light start bombing Iran? What was said in the call from Israel that made him do it?

You think Epstein wasn't working for Mossad then?

Of course he was.

[JoG2]

The issue for orange man is; while that all may be true, he is arguably not an inch closer to a victory than he was when the first bomb was falling.

Clearly he either didn't think it through, and/or let himself be led by the nose.... or... didn't care. Suppose can't rule that out. He's possibly thought "I'm not getting another term, so I'll f**k everyone else to benefit myself", thinking then he can probably enrich himself on the commodities market with the yoyo-ing of oil to his press releases.

As long as Iranians can substantially threaten shipping in the gulf; then inflated oil prices in the US means Trump is always facing his own electoral defeat. But as said above, if he's done this as a big financial manipulation effort, maybe he doesn't care.

The lack of any clear strategy from the US means they don't really know what "winning" is.

Killing the Ayatollah is like killing the Pope, another one will be elected, but the doctrine remains.

Getting the Strait of Hormuz opened may well be considered a win by some (if it happens) but then the Strait was open up until the US and Israel attacks started, so that in itself can only be realistically seen as a return to the norm.

Wiping out the nuclear threat, if one exists, will mean ground troops deep into the heart of Iran and that could come at a heavy price if they wish to remove enriched uranium.

Wiping out Iran's ballistic missile capability is only a temporary reprieve as the technology and knowhow is there and they'll regroup soon enough either with the help of Russia and China or not.

I don't know how this ends well for the US or Israel.

Israel wanted to
turn Iran into a failed state. This mission has failed.
The Yanks also failed.
"The older I get the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology." Mencken

With negotiations ongoing , the nuclear threat thwarted, the only question has to be, what made Trump , without a Congressional green light start bombing Iran? What was said in the call from Israel that made him do it?

You think Epstein wasn't working for Mossad then?

Of course he was.

The hoor is completely and utterly compromised..hence my question. The billions of dollars grift on top is the sweetener

[DaleCooper]

Kristi Noem is not being blackmailed via her pervert husband. She really is just stupid

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kristi-noem-husband-blackmail-national-security-b2949463.html

[J70]

I was going to say that her ongoing affair, complete with private jet luxury bedroom, with Lewandowski might also leave her vulnerable, but as is the nature of this administration, all their dirt, self-dealing and corruption is brazenly wide out in the open.

[DaleCooper]

Reality seems to be asserting itself thank God.

The wild card is as usual the Israelis with the seizing of Southern Lebanon.

Iran may also keep hitting now they have leverage to force concessions.