The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

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We now have the orange anti human piece of sh1te going full Nazi "resettlenent" at the behest of the War Criminal GroßIsrael cnt.
They've made Gaza almost uninhabitable and are now starting on the West Bank.

Their"war on Hamas" didn't exactly work out when you see their men armed to tge teeth at the hostage handovers etc.

100%

Hamas retreated to their underground bunkers and used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields


Justifying genocide again....  "If you think the enemy soldier is in that town, kill everyone"... similar to Willie McCrea's proposal to air bomb west Belfast, Crossmaglen etc... ure bound to hit IRA volunteers as well.

I'm not justifying anything

Going in to this EVERYONE (with 2 brain cells to rub together) knew what the Israeli response would be.



I don't know anyone who has said the attacks on October 7th were ever going to end well, in the end. Not one person on here I don't think has disputed that. Maybe just maybe the Hamas view was take loads of hostages raise awareness and after a lot of bluster we can negotiate with Israel return hostages and get some back in return.

Your points Whitey are valid though on the outcome, it was going to be bad, but what a mostly everyone with a free thinking mind has said that the geocide that has followed is beyond anyone with half a brains comprehension.

Hamas and their predecessors have carried out multiple attacks over the 75 odd years, the response now from Israel is just barbaric 

Are you familiar with the death of Rachel Corrie who got run over by an Israeli military bulldozer?

I read up about it at the time and the default response by the Israeli military to a "terrorist" attack is to demolish the home of the families of those identified as being involved

I'm not (and I don't know how anyone could) justifying the Israeli response. I'm saying that it's almost 100% certainty that this will be the response.

Militarily Hamas/Hezbollah cannot defeat Israel. Everyone knows that.

So if you can't defeat an enemy militarily , why would you want to start an all out war with them?




And yet your posts on this focus only on Oct 7. You try and keep the focus there and away from what has happened both before and after. That to me speaks volumes.

Well there was a real good likelihood of Peace in the early 2000s but Hamas decided it wanted conflict


Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2025, 12:59:55 PMLads stop bickering.

We now have the orange anti human piece of sh1te going full Nazi "resettlenent" at the behest of the War Criminal GroßIsrael cnt.
They've made Gaza almost uninhabitable and are now starting on the West Bank.

Their"war on Hamas" didn't exactly work out when you see their men armed to tge teeth at the hostage handovers etc.

100%

Hamas retreated to their underground bunkers and used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields


Justifying genocide again....  "If you think the enemy soldier is in that town, kill everyone"... similar to Willie McCrea's proposal to air bomb west Belfast, Crossmaglen etc... ure bound to hit IRA volunteers as well.

I'm not justifying anything

Going in to this EVERYONE (with 2 brain cells to rub together) knew what the Israeli response would be.



I don't know anyone who has said the attacks on October 7th were ever going to end well, in the end. Not one person on here I don't think has disputed that. Maybe just maybe the Hamas view was take loads of hostages raise awareness and after a lot of bluster we can negotiate with Israel return hostages and get some back in return.

Your points Whitey are valid though on the outcome, it was going to be bad, but what a mostly everyone with a free thinking mind has said that the geocide that has followed is beyond anyone with half a brains comprehension.

Hamas and their predecessors have carried out multiple attacks over the 75 odd years, the response now from Israel is just barbaric 

Are you familiar with the death of Rachel Corrie who got run over by an Israeli military bulldozer?

I read up about it at the time and the default response by the Israeli military to a "terrorist" attack is to demolish the home of the families of those identified as being involved

I'm not (and I don't know how anyone could) justifying the Israeli response. I'm saying that it's almost 100% certainty that this will be the response.

Militarily Hamas/Hezbollah cannot defeat Israel. Everyone knows that.

So if you can't defeat an enemy militarily , why would you want to start an all out war with them?





Your response is not the response of a well man, I'm neither asking you or saying that there is justification, but telling me a random story is bonkers...

Genocide is happening and all you can do is say, well what did ya all expect?

The VC didn't have the military might of the US, the Afgans didn't have the military might of either the Russians or the US the IRA in both wars didn't either have the might to defeat the Brits but wars were started and ended with negotiation and while there was horrid atrocities  in all and the 100 other conflicts around the world, some common ground was met.

Stop talking shite
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

RedHand88

How do you block a thread from popping up on your new posts page?

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 02:45:43 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2025, 12:59:55 PMLads stop bickering.

We now have the orange anti human piece of sh1te going full Nazi "resettlenent" at the behest of the War Criminal GroßIsrael cnt.
They've made Gaza almost uninhabitable and are now starting on the West Bank.

Their"war on Hamas" didn't exactly work out when you see their men armed to tge teeth at the hostage handovers etc.

100%

Hamas retreated to their underground bunkers and used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields


Justifying genocide again....  "If you think the enemy soldier is in that town, kill everyone"... similar to Willie McCrea's proposal to air bomb west Belfast, Crossmaglen etc... ure bound to hit IRA volunteers as well.

I'm not justifying anything

Going in to this EVERYONE (with 2 brain cells to rub together) knew what the Israeli response would be.



I don't know anyone who has said the attacks on October 7th were ever going to end well, in the end. Not one person on here I don't think has disputed that. Maybe just maybe the Hamas view was take loads of hostages raise awareness and after a lot of bluster we can negotiate with Israel return hostages and get some back in return.

Your points Whitey are valid though on the outcome, it was going to be bad, but what a mostly everyone with a free thinking mind has said that the geocide that has followed is beyond anyone with half a brains comprehension.

Hamas and their predecessors have carried out multiple attacks over the 75 odd years, the response now from Israel is just barbaric 

Are you familiar with the death of Rachel Corrie who got run over by an Israeli military bulldozer?

I read up about it at the time and the default response by the Israeli military to a "terrorist" attack is to demolish the home of the families of those identified as being involved

I'm not (and I don't know how anyone could) justifying the Israeli response. I'm saying that it's almost 100% certainty that this will be the response.

Militarily Hamas/Hezbollah cannot defeat Israel. Everyone knows that.

So if you can't defeat an enemy militarily , why would you want to start an all out war with them?





Your response is not the response of a well man, I'm neither asking you or saying that there is justification, but telling me a random story is bonkers...

Genocide is happening and all you can do is say, well what did ya all expect?

The VC didn't have the military might of the US, the Afgans didn't have the military might of either the Russians or the US the IRA in both wars didn't either have the might to defeat the Brits but wars were started and ended with negotiation and while there was horrid atrocities  in all and the 100 other conflicts around the world, some common ground was met.

Stop talking shite

It's not a random story at all

https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/06/23/why-the-irish-support-palestine-2/

I think Christy Moore even wrote a song about it

It's 100% relevant to what's happened

EVERYONE KNEW WHAT THE RESPONSE WOULD BE

Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 02:45:43 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2025, 12:59:55 PMLads stop bickering.

We now have the orange anti human piece of sh1te going full Nazi "resettlenent" at the behest of the War Criminal GroßIsrael cnt.
They've made Gaza almost uninhabitable and are now starting on the West Bank.

Their"war on Hamas" didn't exactly work out when you see their men armed to tge teeth at the hostage handovers etc.

100%

Hamas retreated to their underground bunkers and used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields


Justifying genocide again....  "If you think the enemy soldier is in that town, kill everyone"... similar to Willie McCrea's proposal to air bomb west Belfast, Crossmaglen etc... ure bound to hit IRA volunteers as well.

I'm not justifying anything

Going in to this EVERYONE (with 2 brain cells to rub together) knew what the Israeli response would be.



I don't know anyone who has said the attacks on October 7th were ever going to end well, in the end. Not one person on here I don't think has disputed that. Maybe just maybe the Hamas view was take loads of hostages raise awareness and after a lot of bluster we can negotiate with Israel return hostages and get some back in return.

Your points Whitey are valid though on the outcome, it was going to be bad, but what a mostly everyone with a free thinking mind has said that the geocide that has followed is beyond anyone with half a brains comprehension.

Hamas and their predecessors have carried out multiple attacks over the 75 odd years, the response now from Israel is just barbaric 

Are you familiar with the death of Rachel Corrie who got run over by an Israeli military bulldozer?

I read up about it at the time and the default response by the Israeli military to a "terrorist" attack is to demolish the home of the families of those identified as being involved

I'm not (and I don't know how anyone could) justifying the Israeli response. I'm saying that it's almost 100% certainty that this will be the response.

Militarily Hamas/Hezbollah cannot defeat Israel. Everyone knows that.

So if you can't defeat an enemy militarily , why would you want to start an all out war with them?





Your response is not the response of a well man, I'm neither asking you or saying that there is justification, but telling me a random story is bonkers...

Genocide is happening and all you can do is say, well what did ya all expect?

The VC didn't have the military might of the US, the Afgans didn't have the military might of either the Russians or the US the IRA in both wars didn't either have the might to defeat the Brits but wars were started and ended with negotiation and while there was horrid atrocities  in all and the 100 other conflicts around the world, some common ground was met.

Stop talking shite

It's not a random story at all

https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/06/23/why-the-irish-support-palestine-2/

I think Christy Moore even wrote a song about it

It's 100% relevant to what's happened

EVERYONE KNEW WHAT THE RESPONSE WOULD BE
And still he justifies genocide... that's what years in US does to a mind...

trueblue1234

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 05, 2025, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2025, 12:59:55 PMLads stop bickering.

We now have the orange anti human piece of sh1te going full Nazi "resettlenent" at the behest of the War Criminal GroßIsrael cnt.
They've made Gaza almost uninhabitable and are now starting on the West Bank.

Their"war on Hamas" didn't exactly work out when you see their men armed to tge teeth at the hostage handovers etc.

100%

Hamas retreated to their underground bunkers and used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields


Justifying genocide again....  "If you think the enemy soldier is in that town, kill everyone"... similar to Willie McCrea's proposal to air bomb west Belfast, Crossmaglen etc... ure bound to hit IRA volunteers as well.

I'm not justifying anything

Going in to this EVERYONE (with 2 brain cells to rub together) knew what the Israeli response would be.



I don't know anyone who has said the attacks on October 7th were ever going to end well, in the end. Not one person on here I don't think has disputed that. Maybe just maybe the Hamas view was take loads of hostages raise awareness and after a lot of bluster we can negotiate with Israel return hostages and get some back in return.

Your points Whitey are valid though on the outcome, it was going to be bad, but what a mostly everyone with a free thinking mind has said that the geocide that has followed is beyond anyone with half a brains comprehension.

Hamas and their predecessors have carried out multiple attacks over the 75 odd years, the response now from Israel is just barbaric 

Are you familiar with the death of Rachel Corrie who got run over by an Israeli military bulldozer?

I read up about it at the time and the default response by the Israeli military to a "terrorist" attack is to demolish the home of the families of those identified as being involved

I'm not (and I don't know how anyone could) justifying the Israeli response. I'm saying that it's almost 100% certainty that this will be the response.

Militarily Hamas/Hezbollah cannot defeat Israel. Everyone knows that.

So if you can't defeat an enemy militarily , why would you want to start an all out war with them?




And yet your posts on this focus only on Oct 7. You try and keep the focus there and away from what has happened both before and after. That to me speaks volumes.

Well there was a real good likelihood of Peace in the early 2000s but Hamas decided it wanted conflict


Which point are you taking about?
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

03,05,08

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 05, 2025, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2025, 12:59:55 PMLads stop bickering.

We now have the orange anti human piece of sh1te going full Nazi "resettlenent" at the behest of the War Criminal GroßIsrael cnt.
They've made Gaza almost uninhabitable and are now starting on the West Bank.

Their"war on Hamas" didn't exactly work out when you see their men armed to tge teeth at the hostage handovers etc.

100%

Hamas retreated to their underground bunkers and used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields


Justifying genocide again....  "If you think the enemy soldier is in that town, kill everyone"... similar to Willie McCrea's proposal to air bomb west Belfast, Crossmaglen etc... ure bound to hit IRA volunteers as well.

I'm not justifying anything

Going in to this EVERYONE (with 2 brain cells to rub together) knew what the Israeli response would be.



I don't know anyone who has said the attacks on October 7th were ever going to end well, in the end. Not one person on here I don't think has disputed that. Maybe just maybe the Hamas view was take loads of hostages raise awareness and after a lot of bluster we can negotiate with Israel return hostages and get some back in return.

Your points Whitey are valid though on the outcome, it was going to be bad, but what a mostly everyone with a free thinking mind has said that the geocide that has followed is beyond anyone with half a brains comprehension.

Hamas and their predecessors have carried out multiple attacks over the 75 odd years, the response now from Israel is just barbaric 

Are you familiar with the death of Rachel Corrie who got run over by an Israeli military bulldozer?

I read up about it at the time and the default response by the Israeli military to a "terrorist" attack is to demolish the home of the families of those identified as being involved

I'm not (and I don't know how anyone could) justifying the Israeli response. I'm saying that it's almost 100% certainty that this will be the response.

Militarily Hamas/Hezbollah cannot defeat Israel. Everyone knows that.

So if you can't defeat an enemy militarily , why would you want to start an all out war with them?




And yet your posts on this focus only on Oct 7. You try and keep the focus there and away from what has happened both before and after. That to me speaks volumes.

Well there was a real good likelihood of Peace in the early 2000s but Hamas decided it wanted conflict



Hardline Israelis assassinated their own pm when he was going to give some concessions to Palestine in the 90's?

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on February 05, 2025, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 10:53:30 AMdeluded, you didn't school me with anything with any of the numerous names you had on this forum as you get banned repeatedly for outlandish personal attacks when you cannot argue a point!!!!

you can also stop referring to me and theskull together, I have my opinions and they are not theskulls but in keeping with your method of engagement you try link my opinions to theskulls to undermine me,  rather my points!

Just a reminder I wanted ceasefires and peace in gaza and ukraine, a very consistent approach..  you wanted a ceasefire in Gaza but more war and death in Ukraine.


You got completely schooled, again and again. All the exclamation marks in the world won't change that fact. You ran away from the Ukraine thread because you got tired of being schooled.

You repeated Russian propaganda just as the zionists repeat Israeli propaganda. It's called victim blaming.

You attempt to twist everything but everyone here can see through your BS:

Saying Trump will be even worse than Biden = saying the Palestinians brought it on themselves in PHP world.

Saying Trump will be even worse than Biden = gloating over the suffering over 2.4m people under genocide in PHP world.

Saying Ukraine should be armed to defend itself against a invader who has the objective of erasing Ukrainian nationhood (genocide) = wanting 'more war and death' in PHP world.

Totally twisted.

I never ran away from nowhere. I stopped posting on here as people like you were getting banned so much and let back in it. Also, I people were just repeating themselves on numerous topics.

I didn't victim blame.. that's a lie.

I dont twist anything, just share my opinion.. your last post is a perfect example of twisting.

saying Trump is worst than Biden on Palestine is fine, but that is not what was referenced in the three posts..

the gloating remark was a quote from a gazan in reference to posts like eamons (which again is not a comaprsion of biden/Trump)

I didn't see any calls from you to arm Gazans but only for ukraine... ceasefire and peace in my opinion is better than death and war in both Gaza and Ukraine..



You've always been very slippery (disingenuous) about Ukraine.

Calling for no weapons for Ukraine, in the interests of peace of course, knowing full well that without weapons Russia would have rolled over Ukraine without stopping long ago.

Calling for a ceasefire, in the interests of peace of course, knowing full well that Russia has never respected any ceasefire or any of the past internationally recognised agreements with Ukraine in the past and would use any ceasefire to consolidate their position and get ready to relaunch.

And prattling about Nazis and NATO just like the rest of the Russia apologists. While not forgetting to condemn Russia for their invasion out the side of your mouth of course while spreading their propaganda.


whitey

So following the "logic" shared on this board, if Dissident Republicans had been able to oust SinnFein/IRA (at the outset of the peace process) they would have been completely justified in continuing the conflict and derailing the entire peace process

Interesting

Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 06:50:28 PMSo following the "logic" shared on this board, if Dissident Republicans had been able to oust SinnFein/IRA (at the outset of the peace process) they would have been completely justified in continuing the conflict and derailing the entire peace process

Interesting
Following your logic, if Dissident Republicans had ousted SF/IRA (as you call them... DUP speak!) it would have been their fault if the British then bombed nationalist areas killing 10s of 1000s of civilians.

Eamonnca1

With barely a building left standing in large swathes of Gaza, are we expected to believe there was a Hamas "militant" hiding inside every one? The "human shields" blood libel cannot explain away this catastrophic loss of human life that would have made Genghis Khan proud.

The people who say this all started in October over a year ago are like the people who say that the Troubles in the north erupted "out of nowhere" and the IRA started shooting people for no apparent reason.

Rossfan

It's sad how brainwashed the ex Irishman is.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Wildweasel74

If there's a islamic gunman shooting up a school  should the cops rush in and shoot the gunman and alot of innocent bystanders. And come out and say we got him, who cares about who got in the way to get him. That's the mentality you looking at here with Israel.

whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 06:50:28 PMSo following the "logic" shared on this board, if Dissident Republicans had been able to oust SinnFein/IRA (at the outset of the peace process) they would have been completely justified in continuing the conflict and derailing the entire peace process

Interesting
Following your logic, if Dissident Republicans had ousted SF/IRA (as you call them... DUP speak!) it would have been their fault if the British then bombed nationalist areas killing 10s of 1000s of civilians.

No-that's not what I said

I said that if the path to peace in Northern Ireland had been upended by Dissident Republicans that would have been a perfectly legitimate move for some of the posters on here and they would have supported it (using their Gaza/Hamas logic as applied to their own situation)


Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 06:50:28 PMSo following the "logic" shared on this board, if Dissident Republicans had been able to oust SinnFein/IRA (at the outset of the peace process) they would have been completely justified in continuing the conflict and derailing the entire peace process

Interesting
Following your logic, if Dissident Republicans had ousted SF/IRA (as you call them... DUP speak!) it would have been their fault if the British then bombed nationalist areas killing 10s of 1000s of civilians.

No-that's not what I said

I said that if the path to peace in Northern Ireland had been upended by Dissident Republicans that would have been a perfectly legitimate move for some of the posters on here and they would have supported it (using their Gaza/Hamas logic as applied to their own situation)


Aye there are people here support the dissidents. If the British had carpet bombed nationalist areas as McCrea proposed, no-one would have said, you knew that would happen.. apart from you.