The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 10:06:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 09:42:05 AM2'simple questions

What did Hamas hope to gain by murdering 1200 Israelis and kidnapping 100 Israelis on October 7th?

What exactly did Hamas think the response would be?

The hysterical reaction to those two very valid questions shows me in your heart of hearts you all know that HAMAS (not the Palestinians) flat out wanted to start a war

And when it stated they retreated to their tunnels and left their own civilians to bear the brunt


Hamas did not carry out genocide in Palestine.
Landgrab and murder of Palestinians was going on long before October 7th.. hopefully Israel and US will reap a whirlwind in the years to come for what they've done.

Still can't/won't answer the questions I asked.

Hamas wanted a war and they got one

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on February 05, 2025, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 10:53:30 AMdeluded, you didn't school me with anything with any of the numerous names you had on this forum as you get banned repeatedly for outlandish personal attacks when you cannot argue a point!!!!

you can also stop referring to me and theskull together, I have my opinions and they are not theskulls but in keeping with your method of engagement you try link my opinions to theskulls to undermine me,  rather my points!

Just a reminder I wanted ceasefires and peace in gaza and ukraine, a very consistent approach..  you wanted a ceasefire in Gaza but more war and death in Ukraine.


You got completely schooled, again and again. All the exclamation marks in the world won't change that fact. You ran away from the Ukraine thread because you got tired of being schooled.

You repeated Russian propaganda just as the zionists repeat Israeli propaganda. It's called victim blaming.

You attempt to twist everything but everyone here can see through your BS:

Saying Trump will be even worse than Biden = saying the Palestinians brought it on themselves in PHP world.

Saying Trump will be even worse than Biden = gloating over the suffering over 2.4m people under genocide in PHP world.

Saying Ukraine should be armed to defend itself against a invader who has the objective of erasing Ukrainian nationhood (genocide) = wanting 'more war and death' in PHP world.

Totally twisted.

I never ran away from nowhere. I stopped posting on here as people like you were getting banned so much and let back in it. Also, I people were just repeating themselves on numerous topics.

I didn't victim blame.. that's a lie.

I dont twist anything, just share my opinion.. your last post is a perfect example of twisting.

saying Trump is worst than Biden on Palestine is fine, but that is not what was referenced in the three posts..

the gloating remark was a quote from a gazan in reference to posts like eamons (which again is not a comaprsion of biden/Trump)

I didn't see any calls from you to arm Gazans but only for ukraine... ceasefire and peace in my opinion is better than death and war in both Gaza and Ukraine..


Truthsayer

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Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 10:06:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 09:42:05 AM2'simple questions

What did Hamas hope to gain by murdering 1200 Israelis and kidnapping 100 Israelis on October 7th?

What exactly did Hamas think the response would be?

The hysterical reaction to those two very valid questions shows me in your heart of hearts you all know that HAMAS (not the Palestinians) flat out wanted to start a war

And when it stated they retreated to their tunnels and left their own civilians to bear the brunt


Hamas did not carry out genocide in Palestine.
Landgrab and murder of Palestinians was going on long before October 7th.. hopefully Israel and US will reap a whirlwind in the years to come for what they've done.

Still can't/won't answer the questions I asked.

Hamas wanted a war and they got one
Theres no question to answer. That wasn't a war. That was the slaughter of a civilian population and now a proposed imperialist landgrab. Your justification would have been similar to that of William McCrea who wanted to bomb the civilian population of Carrickmore, Crossmaglen, Dundalk and Drogheda in 1986 in response to IRA attacks.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/state-papers-dup-mp-william-mccrea-wanted-air-strikes-launched-on-the-republic-in-the-1980s/30867020.html

gallsman

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 09:43:05 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 08:56:54 AMyour heartless gloating about the 2.4m people suffering a genocide speaks volume about your shamelessness.

Who do you think you're helping with these lies? Are you so f**king stupid that you don't realise how nonsense like this, on both an individual and collective level, harms the very cause you pretend to be so passionate about?!

those are the words of a Gazan political analyst & writer... they are not my words.

his name is Muhammad Shehada,. go on X and tell him about his lies and it harms the very cause....

I dont pretend anything and you can drop the smug condensing tone...

Your lies your f**king idiot.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 11:43:51 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 09:43:05 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 08:56:54 AMyour heartless gloating about the 2.4m people suffering a genocide speaks volume about your shamelessness.

Who do you think you're helping with these lies? Are you so f**king stupid that you don't realise how nonsense like this, on both an individual and collective level, harms the very cause you pretend to be so passionate about?!

those are the words of a Gazan political analyst & writer... they are not my words.

his name is Muhammad Shehada,. go on X and tell him about his lies and it harms the very cause....

I dont pretend anything and you can drop the smug condensing tone...

Your lies your f**king idiot.

what lies???? what have I lied about?

gallsman

About people gloating over the genocide of Palestinians, you horrible ****.

PadraicHenryPearse

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Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 11:54:39 AMAbout people gloating over the genocide of Palestinians, you horrible ****.

I didn't make that comment...they are not my words, those words were made by a Gazan on twitter in response to similar comments that were made by j70 etc.

I used scum, ghouls and 'told you so' wankers in response to various points... but  "gloating over the genocide of Palestinians' was a direct quote from a Gazan.

johnnycool

Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 09:42:05 AM2'simple questions

What did Hamas hope to gain by murdering 1200 Israelis and kidnapping 100 Israelis on October 7th?

What exactly did Hamas think the response would be?

The hysterical reaction to those two very valid questions shows me in your heart of hearts you all know that HAMAS (not the Palestinians) flat out wanted to start a war

And when it stated they retreated to their tunnels and left their own civilians to bear the brunt



So what you are saying is that Hamas should have kept taking their medicine, held in a concentration camp with no autonomy, no links to the outside world unless Israel gives express permission, all your food is aid as you are not allowed to develop anything like an existence for yourself because Israel controls everything that comes in and out of your "country" and all the while keep burying your friends and family on a regular basis as Israel takes the notion to shot or bomb them to "mow the lawn".

This was all before October 7th.

Also, you need to review those figures on what happened on that day as the IDF were also responsible for hundreds of Israeli deaths ala the Hannibal directive.




gallsman

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 08:56:54 AMhere is a quote from a Gazan to a journalist this morning who was engaging in the same shite you, j70 and eamon and now add gallsman the "smug" to the list, are at.

'Biden literally enabled, funded, armed and cover up the turning of Gaza unto a "a mass demolition site"

your heartless gloating about the 2.4m people suffering a genocide speaks volume about your shamelessness.

Cough cough

armaghniac

Quote from: johnnycool on February 05, 2025, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 09:42:05 AM2'simple questions

What did Hamas hope to gain by murdering 1200 Israelis and kidnapping 100 Israelis on October 7th?

What exactly did Hamas think the response would be?

The hysterical reaction to those two very valid questions shows me in your heart of hearts you all know that HAMAS (not the Palestinians) flat out wanted to start a war

And when it stated they retreated to their tunnels and left their own civilians to bear the brunt



So what you are saying is that Hamas should have kept taking their medicine, held in a concentration camp with no autonomy, no links to the outside world unless Israel gives express permission, all your food is aid as you are not allowed to develop anything like an existence for yourself because Israel controls everything that comes in and out of your "country" and all the while keep burying your friends and family on a regular basis as Israel takes the notion to shot or bomb them to "mow the lawn".

This was all before October 7th.

Also, you need to review those figures on what happened on that day as the IDF were also responsible for hundreds of Israeli deaths ala the Hannibal directive.

Nevertheless, the manner of the attacks on civilians on October 7th gave an excuse to the Israelis, apart from being wrong in themselves.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 08:56:54 AMhere is a quote from a Gazan to a journalist this morning who was engaging in the same shite you, j70 and eamon and now add gallsman the "smug" to the list, are at.

'Biden literally enabled, funded, armed and cover up the turning of Gaza unto a "a mass demolition site"

your heartless gloating about the 2.4m people suffering a genocide speaks volume about your shamelessness.

Cough cough

for the 3rd time(maybe 4th) they are the words from a Gazan.. see the start of the message, here is a quote from a gazan to a journalist..

I had to retype the quote as twitter wasn't working on this phone.

johnnycool

Quote from: armaghniac on February 05, 2025, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 05, 2025, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 09:42:05 AM2'simple questions

What did Hamas hope to gain by murdering 1200 Israelis and kidnapping 100 Israelis on October 7th?

What exactly did Hamas think the response would be?

The hysterical reaction to those two very valid questions shows me in your heart of hearts you all know that HAMAS (not the Palestinians) flat out wanted to start a war

And when it stated they retreated to their tunnels and left their own civilians to bear the brunt



So what you are saying is that Hamas should have kept taking their medicine, held in a concentration camp with no autonomy, no links to the outside world unless Israel gives express permission, all your food is aid as you are not allowed to develop anything like an existence for yourself because Israel controls everything that comes in and out of your "country" and all the while keep burying your friends and family on a regular basis as Israel takes the notion to shot or bomb them to "mow the lawn".

This was all before October 7th.

Also, you need to review those figures on what happened on that day as the IDF were also responsible for hundreds of Israeli deaths ala the Hannibal directive.

Nevertheless, the manner of the attacks on civilians on October 7th gave an excuse to the Israelis, apart from being wrong in themselves.
It certainly gave them an excuse to commit a genocide in the eyes of the western media, but Hamas aren't in the West Bank, how do you square that circle as they're still getting bombed to shít as well?

The IDF were murdering Palestinians on a regular basis long before Oct 7th, correct?

gallsman

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 12:34:04 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 08:56:54 AMhere is a quote from a Gazan to a journalist this morning who was engaging in the same shite you, j70 and eamon and now add gallsman the "smug" to the list, are at.

'Biden literally enabled, funded, armed and cover up the turning of Gaza unto a "a mass demolition site"

your heartless gloating about the 2.4m people suffering a genocide speaks volume about your shamelessness.

Cough cough

for the 3rd time(maybe 4th) they are the words from a Gazan.. see the start of the message, here is a quote from a gazan to a journalist..

I had to retype the quote as twitter wasn't working on this phone.

First of all, you closed the quote, so my assertion that you're a stupid **** remains valid, even if you managed it via accident.

Secondly, you specifically said the quote was directed at someone "engaging in the same shite" we were. Therefore you are accusing us of the same.

I mean, not to sound like whitey, but if you're representative of the wokey liberal elite, I'd really have to have a think about moving much further to the right.

whitey

Quote from: johnnycool on February 05, 2025, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 05, 2025, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 05, 2025, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 09:42:05 AM2'simple questions

What did Hamas hope to gain by murdering 1200 Israelis and kidnapping 100 Israelis on October 7th?

What exactly did Hamas think the response would be?

The hysterical reaction to those two very valid questions shows me in your heart of hearts you all know that HAMAS (not the Palestinians) flat out wanted to start a war

And when it stated they retreated to their tunnels and left their own civilians to bear the brunt



So what you are saying is that Hamas should have kept taking their medicine, held in a concentration camp with no autonomy, no links to the outside world unless Israel gives express permission, all your food is aid as you are not allowed to develop anything like an existence for yourself because Israel controls everything that comes in and out of your "country" and all the while keep burying your friends and family on a regular basis as Israel takes the notion to shot or bomb them to "mow the lawn".

This was all before October 7th.

Also, you need to review those figures on what happened on that day as the IDF were also responsible for hundreds of Israeli deaths ala the Hannibal directive.

Nevertheless, the manner of the attacks on civilians on October 7th gave an excuse to the Israelis, apart from being wrong in themselves.
It certainly gave them an excuse to commit a genocide in the eyes of the western media, but Hamas aren't in the West Bank, how do you square that circle as they're still getting bombed to shít as well?

The IDF were murdering Palestinians on a regular basis long before Oct 7th, correct?


I was watching the news on the morning of October 7th

EVERY SINGLE COMMENTATOR predicted the following:

Massive ground invasion

Unprecedented number of civilian casualties

End game for Israel-nothing less than complete and utter destruction of Hamas

If every single commentator in TV knew what was going to happen so did Hamas

So again-for the one hundredth time what were Hamas hoping to accomplish by their actions on October 7th? (because they knew 100% what was coming-as did everyone else)


PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 12:41:50 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 12:34:04 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 05, 2025, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 05, 2025, 08:56:54 AMhere is a quote from a Gazan to a journalist this morning who was engaging in the same shite you, j70 and eamon and now add gallsman the "smug" to the list, are at.

'Biden literally enabled, funded, armed and cover up the turning of Gaza unto a "a mass demolition site"

your heartless gloating about the 2.4m people suffering a genocide speaks volume about your shamelessness.

Cough cough

for the 3rd time(maybe 4th) they are the words from a Gazan.. see the start of the message, here is a quote from a gazan to a journalist..

I had to retype the quote as twitter wasn't working on this phone.

First of all, you closed the quote, so my assertion that you're stupid **** remains valid, even if you managed it via accident

Secondly, you specifically said the quote was directed at someone "engaging in the same shite" we were. Therefore you are accusing us of the same.

I mean not to sound like whitey but if you're representative of the wokey liberal elite, I'd really have to have a think about moving much further to the right.

I didn't close the quote, look again, I won't stoop to your level of name calling...

I edited the post to add you but it was the 3 comments by the others posters i was referring too .. you just seem to stalk my posts recently and had another pop at me so I added you when I probably shouldn't have.

but again and I repeat they are the words of a how a gazan feels, I think they are better position on how they feel or think about comments that were made like J70s etc.

you don't know me but clearly have a massive issue with me for some reason... I wouldnt use wokely, liberal or elite to describe myself...