The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

J70

And once again the hysterical, hyper partisan overreaction to everything Trump related, is coming back to haunt the Democrats.

Many people have stopped paying attention because it's impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Democrats.

I was talking to a friend in Ireland and he asked me how did 77 M people, including the majority of white women vote for a "rapist". I told him that as it pertained to Trump a lot of people simply don't believe anything the Democrats or the main stream media say about Trump

1. Do they believe Fox News who got fined almost a billion dollars for their lies about the 2020 election?
2. Do they believe the GOP who bend themselves into intellectual contortions on a daily basis to defend Trump and his conduct, rhetoric and policies?
3. Do they believe Trump's own lies about everything under the sun? Just in the past few days, do they believe that the DC air tragedy was down to Obama/Biden's "DEI" policies? Are they feeling in any way foolish after Trump shrugged off inflation concerns after campaigning extremely hard on the issue?

It seems this truth standard you're always preaching to us about is very one-sided.

[J70]

Also, you'd swear the poor put-upon US right had no other alternative than Trump. Poor crayturs have no agency and no responsibility whatsoever for the shitshow that is upon us.

Dems made them do it.

[whitey]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

J70

And once again the hysterical, hyper partisan overreaction to everything Trump related, is coming back to haunt the Democrats.

Many people have stopped paying attention because it's impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Democrats.

I was talking to a friend in Ireland and he asked me how did 77 M people, including the majority of white women vote for a "rapist". I told him that as it pertained to Trump a lot of people simply don't believe anything the Democrats or the main stream media say about Trump

1. Do they believe Fox News who got fined almost a billion dollars for their lies about the 2020 election?
2. Do they believe the GOP who bend themselves into intellectual contortions on a daily basis to defend Trump and his conduct, rhetoric and policies?
3. Do they believe Trump's own lies about everything under the sun? Just in the past few days, do they believe that the DC air tragedy was down to Obama/Biden's "DEI" policies? Are they feeling in any way foolish after Trump shrugged off inflation concerns after campaigning extremely hard on the issue?

It seems this truth standard you're always preaching to us about is very one-sided.

Haha-I dont believe anyone-Democrats or Republicans-at face value

You not only believe what the Democrats are saying, you hold them out as paragons of virtue, when they are just the other side of the coin to the Republicans you detest.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/james-carville-says-biden-listened-to-idiot-left-when-it-came-to-the-border/

James Carville, hardly a Trump supporter.....referred to them as the idiot left.  You were repeating many of those same "talking points" on here

[trueblue1234]

But yet you're on here saying Trump won because the Dems lie so much. But that doesn't compute if the Republicans lie as much if not more. So that can't be the reason.

[J70]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

J70

And once again the hysterical, hyper partisan overreaction to everything Trump related, is coming back to haunt the Democrats.

Many people have stopped paying attention because it's impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Democrats.

I was talking to a friend in Ireland and he asked me how did 77 M people, including the majority of white women vote for a "rapist". I told him that as it pertained to Trump a lot of people simply don't believe anything the Democrats or the main stream media say about Trump

1. Do they believe Fox News who got fined almost a billion dollars for their lies about the 2020 election?
2. Do they believe the GOP who bend themselves into intellectual contortions on a daily basis to defend Trump and his conduct, rhetoric and policies?
3. Do they believe Trump's own lies about everything under the sun? Just in the past few days, do they believe that the DC air tragedy was down to Obama/Biden's "DEI" policies? Are they feeling in any way foolish after Trump shrugged off inflation concerns after campaigning extremely hard on the issue?

It seems this truth standard you're always preaching to us about is very one-sided.

Haha-I dont believe anyone-Democrats or Republicans-at face value

You not only believe what the Democrats are saying, you hold them out as paragons of virtue, when they are just the other side of the coin to the Republicans you detest.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/james-carville-says-biden-listened-to-idiot-left-when-it-came-to-the-border/

James Carville, hardly a Trump supporter.....referred to them as the idiot left.  You were repeating many of those same "talking points" on here

Now you are just making shit up. Come back to me when you want to discuss honestly.

[whitey]

But yet you're on here saying Trump won because the Dems lie so much. But that doesn't compute if the Republicans lie as much if not more. So that can't be the reason.

Yes-that's what I said and I'm sticking to it

Republicans will always vote for Republicans-Democrats will always  vote for Democrats.

Swing voters decide the election and switch back and forth


The democrats lied for 4 years about the border and Trump campaigned on fixing it it and that was one of the main reasons he won.

So all the alarm bells the Democrats were ringing about a second Trump term (some quite real) fell of deaf ears because of Democratic lies about the border and about Russia Collusion before that

How the heck did someone who fomented an insurrection 4 years ago get re-elected if the voters didn't view the Democrats as even worse

[trueblue1234]

But yet you're on here saying Trump won because the Dems lie so much. But that doesn't compute if the Republicans lie as much if not more. So that can't be the reason.

Yes-that's what I said and I'm sticking to it

Republicans will always vote for Republicans-Democrats will always  vote for Democrats.

Swing voters decide the election and switch back and forth


The democrats lied for 4 years about the border and Trump campaigned on fixing it it and that was one of the main reasons he won.

So all the alarm bells the Democrats were ringing about a second Trump term (some quite real) fell of deaf ears because of Democratic lies about the border and about Russia Collusion before that

How the heck did someone who fomented an insurrection 4 years ago get re-elected if the voters didn't view the Democrats as even worse

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republicans-democrats-lies-bill-adair-fact-check-politifact-trump-b2631493.html

Going by this Republicans lie more. So using your logic, it should have pushed more people to vote Dems. But it didn't.

[whitey]

But yet you're on here saying Trump won because the Dems lie so much. But that doesn't compute if the Republicans lie as much if not more. So that can't be the reason.

Yes-that's what I said and I'm sticking to it

Republicans will always vote for Republicans-Democrats will always  vote for Democrats.

Swing voters decide the election and switch back and forth


The democrats lied for 4 years about the border and Trump campaigned on fixing it it and that was one of the main reasons he won.

So all the alarm bells the Democrats were ringing about a second Trump term (some quite real) fell of deaf ears because of Democratic lies about the border and about Russia Collusion before that

How the heck did someone who fomented an insurrection 4 years ago get re-elected if the voters didn't view the Democrats as even worse

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republicans-democrats-lies-bill-adair-fact-check-politifact-trump-b2631493.html

Going by this Republicans lie more. So using your logic, it should have pushed more people to vote Dems. But it didn't.

The vast majority of Trumps lies are just exaggerations or embellishments

Democratic lies are whoppers with Decades of consequences

Also-how many off the cuff interview does Trump
Give compared to what Joe did for 4 years

FFS eve Kamala pretty much hid for the duration of the campaign

https://unherd.com/newsroom/kamala-harriss-hide-from-the-press-strategy-is-worryingly-effective/

[trueblue1234]

But yet you're on here saying Trump won because the Dems lie so much. But that doesn't compute if the Republicans lie as much if not more. So that can't be the reason.

Yes-that's what I said and I'm sticking to it

Republicans will always vote for Republicans-Democrats will always  vote for Democrats.

Swing voters decide the election and switch back and forth


The democrats lied for 4 years about the border and Trump campaigned on fixing it it and that was one of the main reasons he won.

So all the alarm bells the Democrats were ringing about a second Trump term (some quite real) fell of deaf ears because of Democratic lies about the border and about Russia Collusion before that

How the heck did someone who fomented an insurrection 4 years ago get re-elected if the voters didn't view the Democrats as even worse

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republicans-democrats-lies-bill-adair-fact-check-politifact-trump-b2631493.html

Going by this Republicans lie more. So using your logic, it should have pushed more people to vote Dems. But it didn't.

The vast majority of Trumps lies are just exaggerations or embellishments

Democratic lies are whoppers with Decades of consequences

Did you not just chastise J70 above for his bias and then you come out with that nonsense.

[Eamonnca1]

Donald Trump made 7 times more misleading statements than Joe Biden in his first 100 days


In his first 100 days, President Trump had 29 statements assessed by PolitiFact (17 false) compared to 12 statements from President Obama (1 false) and 4 statements from President Biden (2 false). As a raw count, Trump told more falsehoods than Biden and Obama combined.

President Trump, who returned to office Jan. 20, has wasted no time setting a new agenda, relying on false and misleading information to support several of his initiatives.

[Blowitupref]

FFS eve Kamala pretty much hid for the duration of the campaign

She was the strongest performer in the head to head debate and when she called for a 2nd debate Trump hid. She also sat down with Bret Baier for interview something that Trump refused to do as he damaged his ego the last time.

[whitey]

The Democrats even tried to appoint a "Disinformation Czar"



She ha to step aside for......spreading disinformation

Couldn't make it up

https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/dhs-disinformation-czar-jankowicz-pushed-trump-russia-claims/

[whitey]

FFS eve Kamala pretty much hid for the duration of the campaign

She was the strongest performer in the head to head debate and when she called for a 2nd debate Trump hid. She also sat down with Bret Baier for interview something that Trump refused to do as he damaged his ego the last time.

That's a separate topic

Of course she'd be a good debater-she's an attorney, a Senator and she actually prepared

Outside the debates she was pretty much MIA

[J70]

But yet you're on here saying Trump won because the Dems lie so much. But that doesn't compute if the Republicans lie as much if not more. So that can't be the reason.

Yes-that's what I said and I'm sticking to it

Republicans will always vote for Republicans-Democrats will always  vote for Democrats.

Swing voters decide the election and switch back and forth


The democrats lied for 4 years about the border and Trump campaigned on fixing it it and that was one of the main reasons he won.

So all the alarm bells the Democrats were ringing about a second Trump term (some quite real) fell of deaf ears because of Democratic lies about the border and about Russia Collusion before that

How the heck did someone who fomented an insurrection 4 years ago get re-elected if the voters didn't view the Democrats as even worse

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republicans-democrats-lies-bill-adair-fact-check-politifact-trump-b2631493.html

Going by this Republicans lie more. So using your logic, it should have pushed more people to vote Dems. But it didn't.

The vast majority of Trumps lies are just exaggerations or embellishments

Democratic lies are whoppers with Decades of consequences

Also-how many off the cuff interview does Trump
Give compared to what Joe did for 4 years

FFS eve Kamala pretty much hid for the duration of the campaign

https://unherd.com/newsroom/kamala-harriss-hide-from-the-press-strategy-is-worryingly-effective/

Uh-huh.

Having fun trolling?

[Eamonnca1]

"They're eating the dogs. They're eating the pets."

Just a harmless bit of exaggeration and embellishment.