The Many Faces of US Politics...

[thewobbler]

Serious parallels between Trump and Brexit already. Personal greed and control, masked in jingoism.

I suppose the main difference is that Trump didn't overly lie about his intentions / "strategies" to get elected. People wanted what they're now getting.

[johnnycool]

If you genuinely want to bring industry back to the US then you need a 2yr plan to allow companies who feed the US market a chance to pivot their supply chains.

The big multi nationals will still use China and South Asia to supply the markets for the rest of the world and cheaper.

It's hard to see the win for the US consumer.

[gallsman]

2 years?! Good luck.

That kind of manufacturing is never going back. Ever. Labour costs in Mexico are one sixth of what they are in the US.

[Wildweasel74]

So in short, he taxes all these parts made in other countries that end up in American products pushing the price way up. That was well thought out during the election time promises.

[Milltown Row2]

All about the sound bites... has he blamed Joe for the latest plane crash?

[gallsman]

So in short, he taxes all these parts made in other countries than end up in American products pushing the price way up. That was well thought out during the election time promises.

That's pretty much it, yeah.

[johnnycool]

2 years?! Good luck.

That kind of manufacturing is never going back. Ever. Labour costs in Mexico are one sixth of what they are in the US.

It must change from industry to industry but the figure we use is called the LLR (Loaded Labour Rate) and the difference from a plant in Canada to the one in Mexico just over the Texas border is roughly 1/2.
This figure includes all the plant overheads, power, taxes, running costs etc so the wage differential could well be bigger than the half I quoted.

Is there anything other than missiles and military aircraft etc the US actually export now that Boeing has gone belly up due to poor quality?

[J70]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

[Puckoon]

2 years?! Good luck.

That kind of manufacturing is never going back. Ever. Labour costs in Mexico are one sixth of what they are in the US.

It must change from industry to industry but the figure we use is called the LLR (Loaded Labour Rate) and the difference from a plant in Canada to the one in Mexico just over the Texas border is roughly 1/2.
This figure includes all the plant overheads, power, taxes, running costs etc so the wage differential could well be bigger than the half I quoted.

Is there anything other than missiles and military aircraft etc the US actually export now that Boeing has gone belly up due to poor quality?

Is that to calculate the charged labor rate as opposed to the paid labor rate?

[johnnycool]

2 years?! Good luck.

That kind of manufacturing is never going back. Ever. Labour costs in Mexico are one sixth of what they are in the US.

It must change from industry to industry but the figure we use is called the LLR (Loaded Labour Rate) and the difference from a plant in Canada to the one in Mexico just over the Texas border is roughly 1/2.
This figure includes all the plant overheads, power, taxes, running costs etc so the wage differential could well be bigger than the half I quoted.

Is there anything other than missiles and military aircraft etc the US actually export now that Boeing has gone belly up due to poor quality?

Is that to calculate the charged labor rate as opposed to the paid labor rate?

It's to standardise the "cost of doing business" from region to region.

Wages is only part of the equation.

[whitey]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

J70

And once again the hysterical, hyper partisan overreaction to everything Trump related, is coming back to haunt the Democrats.

Many people have stopped paying attention because it's impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Democrats.

I was talking to a friend in Ireland and he asked me how did 77 M people, including the majority of white women vote for a "rapist". I told him that as it pertained to Trump a lot of people simply don't believe anything the Democrats or the main stream media say about Trump

[trueblue1234]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

J70

And once again the hysterical, hyper partisan overreaction to everything Trump related, is coming back to haunt the Democrats.

Many people have stopped paying attention because it's impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Democrats.

I was talking to a friend in Ireland and he asked me how did 77 M people, including the majority of white women vote for a "rapist". I told him that as it pertained to Trump a lot of people simply don't believe anything the Democrats or the main stream media say about Trump

You can't cure stupid tbf.

[whitey]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

J70

And once again the hysterical, hyper partisan overreaction to everything Trump related, is coming back to haunt the Democrats.

Many people have stopped paying attention because it's impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Democrats.

I was talking to a friend in Ireland and he asked me how did 77 M people, including the majority of white women vote for a "rapist". I told him that as it pertained to Trump a lot of people simply don't believe anything the Democrats or the main stream media say about Trump

You can't cure stupid tbf.

Ok wouldn't call it stupid

If you've been lied to for years why all of a sudden would you start believing them

J70 will and Eamonn will tell you Biden did a fine job on the border and that it's all the republicans fault

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14352089/amp/bill-maher-says-biden-border-policy-worse.html


But-hey......Orange man bad

[Captain Obvious]

I find it remarkable that anyone with a decent intuition can still underestimates the huge influence Elon Musk had on getting Trump back into office.  His billions was pumped into the Trump campaign and with the use of his Social media lie propaganda machine that is X.com  it was enough convince the ordinary Joes that main stream media was bigger liars than Trump himself.

[trueblue1234]

Alarms are being raised in the wake of a new report from the Washington Post claiming that allies of X owner Elon Musk have successfully pushed out the highest-ranking official at the United States Treasury Department over their demands to access highly sensitive government payment information.
According to the Post, longtime Treasury official David A. Lebryk is "expected to leave the agency soon" despite the fact that President Donald Trump actually appointed him as acting treasury secretary just last week.

The reason for Lebryk's departure is what has truly unnerved political observers, as the Post reports that he "had a dispute with Musk's surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year."

Julia Coronado, a clinical associate professor of finance at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business, also worried about the implications of the Musk allies' actions.

"The man whose rocket just exploded over south Florida in spectacular fashion, who had the FAA head removed because he dared to be concerned about his safety practices, who is a little too cozy with China will now have unfettered access to confidential Treasury payment systems... what could go wrong?" she wrote.

Scott Imberman, a professor of economics at Michigan State University, found himself flabbergasted by the situation.
"What the hell is Musk trying to do here?" he wondered. "This is extremely sensitive data."

Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, questioned why Lebryk was departing instead of fighting to keep Musk from accessing the system.

"I mean no specific criticism of Lebryk, and I know I'm watching from the cheap seats," he wrote. "But if US democracy is going to survive it's going to require some decent people refusing to be bullied out of office by rich pricks outside the government and daring them to come get him."

And trial attorney Max Kennerly chided American business elites who had cozied up to Trump without seeming to care about how moves like this could cause a devastating economic meltdown.

"All the smart, savvy bankers and CEOs who think they're just getting deregulation with a side of racism do not understand they will also be taken for a ride, as Trump and Musk treat the entire federal government like a mob protection racket, freely skimming anywhere they like," he wrote.

Can you imagine the (justifiable) uproar on the right if a Dem president brought a conflict-of-interest addled oligarch like Musk in to use his minions, none of whom have security clearance, to conduct a hostile takeover of government agencies, systems and databases?

Is there any chance that the Dems are going to crawl out from their hiding spot and start raising hell about what is going on all across the board? 

J70

And once again the hysterical, hyper partisan overreaction to everything Trump related, is coming back to haunt the Democrats.

Many people have stopped paying attention because it's impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Democrats.

I was talking to a friend in Ireland and he asked me how did 77 M people, including the majority of white women vote for a "rapist". I told him that as it pertained to Trump a lot of people simply don't believe anything the Democrats or the main stream media say about Trump

You can't cure stupid tbf.

Ok wouldn't call it stupid

If you've been lied to for years why all of a sudden would you start believing them

J70 will and Eamonn will tell you Biden did a fine job on the border and that it's all the republicans fault

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14352089/amp/bill-maher-says-biden-border-policy-worse.html


But-hey......Orange man bad

It's a nice get out of jail free card that. Doesn't matter what Trump does now cause them bad Dems blow things out of proportion. That for me is 💯 stupid.