The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Gmac

Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

whitey

Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Because Trumps reaction would have been unpredictable whereas Joes was completely predictable

fearbrags

Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Because Trumps reaction would have been unpredictable whereas Joes was completely predictable

Hugh mistake not to invade while Trump was in Office , Trump would have supported his Invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg

lenny

Quote from: fearbrags on March 19, 2022, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Because Trumps reaction would have been unpredictable whereas Joes was completely predictable

Hugh mistake not to invade while Trump was in Office , Trump would have supported his Invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg

During the Soviet era, Russian intelligence cast a wide net to gain leverage over influential figures abroad. (The practice continues to this day.) The Russians would lure or entrap not only prominent politicians and cultural leaders, but also people whom they saw as having the potential for gaining prominence in the future. In 1986, Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin met Trump in New York, flattered him with praise for his building exploits, and invited him to discuss a building in Moscow. Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump's own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)

Reporter Craig Unger got a former KGB spy to confirm on the record that Russian intelligence had been working Trump for decades. In his new book, "American Kompromat," Unger interviewed Yuri Shvets, who told him that the KGB manipulated Trump with simple flattery. "In terms of his personality, the guy is not a complicated cookie," he said, "his most important characteristics being low intellect coupled with hyperinflated vanity. This makes him a dream for an experienced recruiter."

whitey

Quote from: fearbrags on March 19, 2022, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Because Trumps reaction would have been unpredictable whereas Joes was completely predictable

Hugh mistake not to invade while Trump was in Office , Trump would have supported his Invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg

Trump actually gave the Ukrainians weapons the weapons they wanted, while 8 years of Obama gave them very little

whitey

Quote from: lenny on March 19, 2022, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on March 19, 2022, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Because Trumps reaction would have been unpredictable whereas Joes was completely predictable

Hugh mistake not to invade while Trump was in Office , Trump would have supported his Invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg

During the Soviet era, Russian intelligence cast a wide net to gain leverage over influential figures abroad. (The practice continues to this day.) The Russians would lure or entrap not only prominent politicians and cultural leaders, but also people whom they saw as having the potential for gaining prominence in the future. In 1986, Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin met Trump in New York, flattered him with praise for his building exploits, and invited him to discuss a building in Moscow. Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump's own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)

Reporter Craig Unger got a former KGB spy to confirm on the record that Russian intelligence had been working Trump for decades. In his new book, "American Kompromat," Unger interviewed Yuri Shvets, who told him that the KGB manipulated Trump with simple flattery. "In terms of his personality, the guy is not a complicated cookie," he said, "his most important characteristics being low intellect coupled with hyperinflated vanity. This makes him a dream for an experienced recruiter."

So who do you think the Russians have more dirt on?

Trump or Hunter Biden?

lenny

Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: lenny on March 19, 2022, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on March 19, 2022, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Because Trumps reaction would have been unpredictable whereas Joes was completely predictable

Hugh mistake not to invade while Trump was in Office , Trump would have supported his Invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg

During the Soviet era, Russian intelligence cast a wide net to gain leverage over influential figures abroad. (The practice continues to this day.) The Russians would lure or entrap not only prominent politicians and cultural leaders, but also people whom they saw as having the potential for gaining prominence in the future. In 1986, Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin met Trump in New York, flattered him with praise for his building exploits, and invited him to discuss a building in Moscow. Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump's own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)

Reporter Craig Unger got a former KGB spy to confirm on the record that Russian intelligence had been working Trump for decades. In his new book, "American Kompromat," Unger interviewed Yuri Shvets, who told him that the KGB manipulated Trump with simple flattery. "In terms of his personality, the guy is not a complicated cookie," he said, "his most important characteristics being low intellect coupled with hyperinflated vanity. This makes him a dream for an experienced recruiter."

So who do you think the Russians have more dirt on?

Trump or Hunter Biden?

It's who they control. They control Trump, hence why he never once criticised Putin even going against his own intelligence services.

Wildweasel74

Trumps love in with Putin was there for all to see, only the blinkered (gmac and Whitey) can't see that he was comprised in some way. He ignore his own cia info on Russia trying to interfer in a election as it had benefitted him.

whitey

Quote from: lenny on March 19, 2022, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: lenny on March 19, 2022, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on March 19, 2022, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Because Trumps reaction would have been unpredictable whereas Joes was completely predictable

Hugh mistake not to invade while Trump was in Office , Trump would have supported his Invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Xw0_2eMJg

During the Soviet era, Russian intelligence cast a wide net to gain leverage over influential figures abroad. (The practice continues to this day.) The Russians would lure or entrap not only prominent politicians and cultural leaders, but also people whom they saw as having the potential for gaining prominence in the future. In 1986, Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin met Trump in New York, flattered him with praise for his building exploits, and invited him to discuss a building in Moscow. Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump's own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)

Reporter Craig Unger got a former KGB spy to confirm on the record that Russian intelligence had been working Trump for decades. In his new book, "American Kompromat," Unger interviewed Yuri Shvets, who told him that the KGB manipulated Trump with simple flattery. "In terms of his personality, the guy is not a complicated cookie," he said, "his most important characteristics being low intellect coupled with hyperinflated vanity. This makes him a dream for an experienced recruiter."

So who do you think the Russians have more dirt on?

Trump or Hunter Biden?

It's who they control. They control Trump, hence why he never once criticised Putin even going against his own intelligence services.

You mean his own intelligence services who facilitated the false dossier that was full of Russian misinformation?


J70

#22690
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Yeah, that's a good one all right.

School kid levels of insight and analysis.

But if you leave aside the fact that even members of Trump's own foreign policy team have been ridiculing this "argument" and you go with the "Putin wouldn't do it because Trump is unpredictable" narrative, how the f**k would that be a good thing?


whitey

Quote from: J70 on March 20, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Yeah, that's a good one all right.

School kid levels of insight and analysis.

But if you leave aside the fact that even members of Trump's own foreign policy team have been ridiculing this "argument" and you go with the "Putin wouldn't do it because Trump is unpredictable" narrative, how the f**k would that be a good thing?

So why do you think Putin decided to wait until Trump was out of office before invading?

If Trump was in his pocket wouldn't it have made a whole lot more sense to invade during the chaos of the Trump administration

fearbrags

#22692
Hugh mistake by Putin  not to invade while Trump was in office  but  I suppose There wasnt much time as he excepted him to win the election

J70

#22693
Quote from: whitey on March 20, 2022, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 20, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Yeah, that's a good one all right.

School kid levels of insight and analysis.

But if you leave aside the fact that even members of Trump's own foreign policy team have been ridiculing this "argument" and you go with the "Putin wouldn't do it because Trump is unpredictable" narrative, how the f**k would that be a good thing?

So why do you think Putin decided to wait until Trump was out of office before invading?

If Trump was in his pocket wouldn't it have made a whole lot more sense to invade during the chaos of the Trump administration

Maybe Putin was happy to sit back and watch Trump shred US relations with their EU and NATO allies, promote corrupt strongmen the world over and undermine democracy? Supposedly Trump was even talking behind the scenes about removing the US from NATO, but was advised to put a lid on it until his second term.

Trump has never missed a single opportunity, even out of office, to side with and praise Putin at the expense of his own government and country. Either he's intimidated by him, or he honestly admires his whole anti-democratic, strongman act. Personally I suspect it's both.

Gmac

Quote from: J70 on March 20, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gmac on March 19, 2022, 03:26:15 PM
Hunter's laptop story and all emails on it were true and the media and Facebook/twitter shown up as the hacks they are .fake news is everywhere

Funny how they didn't need such a high standard of proof when it came to sharing the contents of the "dossier"
yes indeed ,  heard a good one the other day if trump was in putins pocket like the media and democrats claimed why did Putin wait until he was out of office to invade  Ukraine ?

Yeah, that's a good one all right.

School kid levels of insight and analysis.

But if you leave aside the fact that even members of Trump's own foreign policy team have been ridiculing this "argument" and you go with the "Putin wouldn't do it because Trump is unpredictable" narrative, how the f**k would that be a good thing?
your analysis is much smarter j70 , your opinion should be scoffed at for the simple reason you think the current president is even lucid. Idiot