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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #17130 on: June 29, 2020, 05:10:58 PM »
Would it help if all black men joined the NRA and prominently displayed their NRA sticker on their car or rucksack?
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« Reply #17131 on: June 29, 2020, 05:57:07 PM »
There follows a translation of all whitey's posts: "I hate blacks."

Facts are facts, but your response should encourage any Trump supporters out there

The “Disagree with us and you’re a racist“ line is getting kinda boring at this point

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« Reply #17132 on: June 29, 2020, 06:22:05 PM »
Would it help if all black men joined the NRA and prominently displayed their NRA sticker on their car or rucksack?


Not sure what exactly it would “help”

When a cop tells you to do something over here it’s not a suggestion like it is in Ireland

Disobeying a legal order from a law enforcement officer (I believe) is actually considered breaking the law in and of itself.

I know someone....very white,very  well connected and very Republican who got into a tangle with a cop over a noise complaint at her 50th birthday party.  Cop came by 3 times and told her to turn the music  down and she refused. Cop went to but the handcuffs on her and she resisted and kicked a female police officer (who had fallen to the ground in the ensuing scuffle) in the face. She got pepper sprayed and tazed twice in spite of who she was ( A person of color might only have gotten the first warning.....that’s where the disparities in policing would come in)


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« Reply #17133 on: June 29, 2020, 07:25:05 PM »
There is clearly deep generational inequalities within black communities but the causation of greater poverty in black communities, leading to more crime, leading to higher homicide rates is also true.

To me the biggest issue for black communities is the generational catch 22 cycle of people from very poor neighbourhoods having to work 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs to keep a roof over their head and not being able to afford to get their children into a good college and therefore perpetuate the cycle of poverty which has to be somehow addressed.

At the minute Universities giving a couple of scholarship 'how can I be racist I have a black friend' is fairly meaningless to most.  I hope this movement opens up a more general discussion on what can be done to start to address this and other poverty traps and doesn't fizzle out in a few weeks time when a black square is not as fashionable.
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« Reply #17134 on: June 29, 2020, 08:33:38 PM »
Would it help if all black men joined the NRA and prominently displayed their NRA sticker on their car or rucksack?
help with what ?

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« Reply #17135 on: June 29, 2020, 11:34:54 PM »
There is clearly deep generational inequalities within black communities but the causation of greater poverty in black communities, leading to more crime, leading to higher homicide rates is also true.

To me the biggest issue for black communities is the generational catch 22 cycle of people from very poor neighbourhoods having to work 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs to keep a roof over their head and not being able to afford to get their children into a good college and therefore perpetuate the cycle of poverty which has to be somehow addressed.

At the minute Universities giving a couple of scholarship 'how can I be racist I have a black friend' is fairly meaningless to most.  I hope this movement opens up a more general discussion on what can be done to start to address this and other poverty traps and doesn't fizzle out in a few weeks time when a black square is not as fashionable.
Right-wing politics is an agent of racial inequality and class inequality.

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« Reply #17136 on: June 29, 2020, 11:36:03 PM »
There follows a translation of all whitey's posts: "I hate blacks."

Facts are facts, but your response should encourage any Trump supporters out there

The “Disagree with us and you’re a racist“ line is getting kinda boring at this point
Your consistent racism is much more boring.

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« Reply #17137 on: June 29, 2020, 11:45:50 PM »
There follows a translation of all whitey's posts: "I hate blacks."

Facts are facts, but your response should encourage any Trump supporters out there

The “Disagree with us and you’re a racist“ line is getting kinda boring at this point
Your consistent racism is much more boring.

Good man Sid....keep it up!

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« Reply #17138 on: June 29, 2020, 11:51:01 PM »
Most people, if called out as racists would reflexively deny it, even if purely out of embarrassment.

whitey actively embraces it.

You can't shame somebody with no shame.

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't continue to call them what they are - a dirty, stinking, racist, white supremacist piece of shit.


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« Reply #17139 on: June 30, 2020, 12:01:04 AM »
Most people, if called out as racists would reflexively deny it, even if purely out of embarrassment.

whitey actively embraces it.

You can't shame somebody with no shame.

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't continue to call them what they are - a dirty, stinking, racist, white supremacist piece of shit.

Lol.....just because you keep repeating it doesn’t mean it’s true.

Blah blah blah, racism blah blah white supremacy....blah blah blah
Did you know that the Democratic nominee is a racist and an enabler of white supremacists?

Don’t believe me?

That’s what Kamala Harris implied during the debates.....I guess none of you guys will be able to vote for him now.....too bad

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/08/politics/jill-biden-surprised-kamala-harris-debate/index.html
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« Reply #17140 on: June 30, 2020, 12:36:20 AM »
Would it help if all black men joined the NRA and prominently displayed their NRA sticker on their car or rucksack?


Not sure what exactly it would “help”

When a cop tells you to do something over here it’s not a suggestion like it is in Ireland

Disobeying a legal order from a law enforcement officer (I believe) is actually considered breaking the law in and of itself.

I know someone....very white,very  well connected and very Republican who got into a tangle with a cop over a noise complaint at her 50th birthday party.  Cop came by 3 times and told her to turn the music  down and she refused. Cop went to but the handcuffs on her and she resisted and kicked a female police officer (who had fallen to the ground in the ensuing scuffle) in the face. She got pepper sprayed and tazed twice in spite of who she was ( A person of color might only have gotten the first warning.....that’s where the disparities in policing would come in)

Very white? Like ginger Irish white?

If she had brown eyes he’d have tasered her first then shot her between the eyes, be off for three weeks then would have hot a medal for bravery!

Watched the start of film tonight, black guy gets killed film, shot him twice once in the face, coming out of Walmart, suspicion of theft.

Those cops would have a field day outside Lidil in High street Belfast!
I’d move into the funeral business fairly quickly!

America seems fucked up and that’s coming from someone who grew up with seasonal riots, bombings shootings and the rest!
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #17141 on: June 30, 2020, 12:38:03 AM »
Would it help if all black men joined the NRA and prominently displayed their NRA sticker on their car or rucksack?


Not sure what exactly it would “help”

When a cop tells you to do something over here it’s not a suggestion like it is in Ireland

Disobeying a legal order from a law enforcement officer (I believe) is actually considered breaking the law in and of itself.

I know someone....very white,very  well connected and very Republican who got into a tangle with a cop over a noise complaint at her 50th birthday party.  Cop came by 3 times and told her to turn the music  down and she refused. Cop went to but the handcuffs on her and she resisted and kicked a female police officer (who had fallen to the ground in the ensuing scuffle) in the face. She got pepper sprayed and tazed twice in spite of who she was ( A person of color might only have gotten the first warning.....that’s where the disparities in policing would come in)

Very white? Like ginger Irish white?

If she had brown eyes he’d have tasered her first then shot her between the eyes, be off for three weeks then would have hot a medal for bravery!

Watched the start of film tonight, black guy gets killed film, shot him twice once in the face, coming out of Walmart, suspicion of theft.

Those cops would have a field day outside Lidil in High street Belfast!
I’d move into the funeral business fairly quickly!

America seems fucked up and that’s coming from someone who grew up with seasonal riots, bombings shootings and the rest!

Trace her family back to the Mayflower white (which has a particular cachè here in England). Ivy League Educated White. Neighbor of Elizabeth Warren white

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« Reply #17142 on: June 30, 2020, 12:49:18 AM »
Still, you can’t just taser Or pepper spray one person and shot someone for the same thing!

The cop in this show said they are trained to react and take them down, are they trained to react differently to very white mayflower people?

Weird place all the same, what’s the percent of black cops on the states? How many black cops have killed unarmed civilians? Just curious
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« Reply #17143 on: June 30, 2020, 01:26:11 AM »
Still, you can’t just taser Or pepper spray one person and shot someone for the same thing!

The cop in this show said they are trained to react and take them down, are they trained to react differently to very white mayflower people?

Weird place all the same, what’s the percent of black cops on the states? How many black cops have killed unarmed civilians? Just curious

Do you think a person leaving the Royal Yacht Club in Dun Laoighre driving their Mercedes after a couple of G+Ts will be treated the same as a gang of yobs driving a stolen/unregistered car in Tallaght or Blanchardstown?

Every town has its own police force which leads to very unequal application of the law across individual states, never mind the country. If you roll up to a nice house in a wealthy town and there’s a bunch of
(generally) law abiding citizens enjoying a party with loud music the expectation is that people will comply with the police


On the other hand, if you’re called out to a high crime neighborhood where a lot of shootings, stabbing and robberies occur, now you are playing in a different ballgame. People may be armed with guns or other weapons. An angry and hostile crowd may congregate and interfere with the police doing their job. Spike Lee coined the phrase Chiraq .......that’s how violent Chicago is.....you essentially have civilian police in a war zone


Here in Boston a few years ago there was a quadruple homicide which included the execution of a 2 year old boy. Thats the level of savagery the cops are up against on a daily basis. It doesn't excuse the police of wrongdoing, but perhaps it helps explain how easier it is for things can go wrong in such highly charged situations. Cops are truly put in life and death situations every day


https://www.wbur.org/news/2010/10/06/flonory-smith-funeral
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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #17144 on: June 30, 2020, 02:07:55 AM »
Any connection between protests and covid rise ? would that be off limits to criticize in current climate