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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #17070 on: June 25, 2020, 12:05:13 AM »
Sid-When you take your citizenship exam you learn that the Electoral College elects the President of the United States

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #17071 on: June 25, 2020, 12:06:03 AM »

2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

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Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Trump: 1/1
Biden: 11/10

Trump: 10/11
Biden: 5/4

Trump 1/1
Biden 5/4

Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)
Biden: 15/13 (1.15/1)

Trump: 11/10
Biden 11/10 (1.1/1)

Biden: 1/1
Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)

Biden: 19/20
Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)

Biden: 10/11
Trump: 5/4 (1.25/1)

Biden: 7/8
Trump: 5/4 (1.25/1)


Biden: 14/19
Trump: 6/4 (1.5/1)


Biden: 8/11
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)

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« Reply #17072 on: June 25, 2020, 12:18:29 AM »
J70-delegitimize Trump and cause chaos in early days of new administration

LOL-the person who would have been responsible for the fight back would have been Flynn

Again, it all comes back to Michael Lewisí book and the chaos that ensued in the early days of the new administration

Again, what would be the point? He was going to be president for four years, at least. I don't see how it would benefit Obama if things got off to a rocky start for Trump (as it turned out, its not as if he needed help anyway).

But, WTF do I know? We'll see what becomes of it. At this point I'm not seeing much.
he wouldnít be president for four years if they got their way,  Obama and Flynn were on completely different wave lengths when it came to the Middle East and Russia, having Flynn in foreign policy would have meant a reversal of Obamaís policies which happened anyway.

So how would that work? Frame Flynn and Trump is not president? Which would make.... Mike Pence president...

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« Reply #17073 on: June 25, 2020, 12:18:38 AM »
Fascism is about playing out the clock.

That's what Trump is doing.

Democrats are like Man City holding the ball in the corner against Liverpool in 1996 when they needed to score again to avoid relegation.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1275919150808875009

Chairman Nadler, asked about the possibility of impeaching William Barr: "We're looking into that, we may very well."

https://twitter.com/olgaNYC1211/status/1275929485897056256

By the time its decided whether Barr should be impeached Obama's former admin officials including Biden will be dealing w sham prosecutions. That's how it works in Russia and other regimes. Opposition is removed


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« Reply #17074 on: June 25, 2020, 12:23:36 AM »

Biden: 8/11
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)
None of that takes into account hacking of election systems and vote falsification. Biden will need to be 15 points in front and in a position where networks can confidently call states for him from exit polls alone.

In 2000, 2004 and 2016, networks were confidently predicting Democratic wins early in the night before each time the Republican candidates mysteriously turned things around.

 

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« Reply #17075 on: June 25, 2020, 12:29:31 AM »
If the Democrats donít get out in front of this, they are going to pay for it in November

PD Officers Surrounded and Assaulted by Hostile Crowd While Attempting to Arrest Resistant Suspect Armed with a Loaded Firearm in Roxbury
June 24, 2020
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At about 5:40 PM on Tuesday June 23, 2020, officers assigned to District B-2 (Roxbury) made an on-site firearm arrest in the area of Humboldt Avenue and Crawford Street. 

Officers responded to a radio call for a person in the area of Maple Street and Cheney Street carrying a fanny pack with a gun inside.   

While traveling on Cheney Street towards Blue Hill Avenue, officers observed a male carrying a fanny pack around his left shoulder. Officers exited their marked cruiser to speak with the male, later identified as Jermaine Thomas, 44, of Mattapan. 

Due to the nature of the call a large crowd gathered in the area. Officers attempted to gain control of the suspects hands at which time the suspect immediately grabbed the officerís wrist and began squeezing it. As officers struggled to gain control, the suspect ripped his hands away and continued to resist by clinching his arms and pushing at officers causing a Body Worn Camera to be knocked off and picked up by an unknown bystander. 

As the crowd grew larger, a Boston Fire Department hydrant was illegally opened causing a heavy flow of water pressure onto the street directed at the officers.     

Officers, while still attempting to place the male into handcuffs, felt an object consistent with that of a firearm inside of the fanny pack.  An unknown suspect was throwing buckets of water on the officers while they were attempting to place the suspect into the marked cruiser after placing him in handcuffs. Officers recovered a Ruger LCR .38 SPL revolver, loaded with 5 Rounds of  ammunition. The suspect was placed under arrest and immediately transported to District B-2 for booking.   

Jermaine Thomas was charged with Unlawful Possession of a Firearm (3rd and Subsequent), Unlawful Possession of Ammunition and Resisting Arrest. He is expected to be arraigned at Roxbury District Court.

Said Boston Police Commissioner William Gross, ďIím alarmed by the level of hostility my officers had to face while arresting a felon armed with an illegal firearm. They were attacked by members of the very same community they were attempting to protect by affecting this arrest. Public safety is a shared responsibility, we need to continue to work together, not in opposition towards one another, to achieve that goal.Ē

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #17076 on: June 25, 2020, 12:45:55 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

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« Reply #17077 on: June 25, 2020, 12:50:33 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing
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« Reply #17078 on: June 25, 2020, 12:54:16 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and everyone afraid to call out wrongdoing

Thatís on the local politicians.

I would be surprised if they didnít comment on this incident. You canít have that.

I presume relations between the cops and the community in that area are not good?


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« Reply #17079 on: June 25, 2020, 12:57:50 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

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« Reply #17080 on: June 25, 2020, 12:58:50 AM »

Biden: 8/11
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)
None of that takes into account hacking of election systems and vote falsification. Biden will need to be 15 points in front and in a position where networks can confidently call states for him from exit polls alone.

In 2000, 2004 and 2016, networks were confidently predicting Democratic wins early in the night before each time the Republican candidates mysteriously turned things around.

The reason I prefer to watch betting markets rather than opinion polls is I'd imagine they do take into account the kind of factors you're talking about. That said, Democrats have learned the hard way not to get cocky and to play to the whistle.

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« Reply #17081 on: June 25, 2020, 12:59:49 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and everyone afraid to call out wrongdoing

Thatís on the local politicians.

I would be surprised if they didnít comment on this incident. You canít have that.

I presume relations between the cops and the community in that area are not good?

Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey and Ayana Presley are local politicians. Ayanna Presley used to live in Roxbury iirc

I think in Boston generally relations are better than in other cities, but Roxbury would be the highest crime area in the city so inevitably you will have tensions

Chief is African American
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« Reply #17082 on: June 25, 2020, 01:01:03 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Agreed.....EVERYONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

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« Reply #17083 on: June 25, 2020, 09:32:32 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Agreed.....EVERYONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

But they're not, especially those meant to protect and serve and that's the problem.


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« Reply #17084 on: June 25, 2020, 10:53:33 AM »
Get out in front of what, exactly?

A mob attacking the police who are trying to protect their neighborhood from a armed felon who are responding to a call

Not one local politician has offered any support to BPD in recent weeks

People are getting very fed up with the pandering and no one willing to call out wrongdoing

Almost like something a Black Lives Matter spokesperson would say.

Agreed.....EVERYONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

But they're not, especially those meant to protect and serve and that's the problem.

Correct. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos theyíre hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought heíd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. Iím sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and itís almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories heíd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe itís time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs