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« Reply #16815 on: June 09, 2020, 07:05:54 PM »
So the la council woman who introduced a motion to cut lapd budget by 150m has had cop detail outside her home since April and when contacted about it canceled it , also a professor at UCLA is under police protection after he dared to make minority students do a final exam in the wake of recent events. Sad

Details?

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« Reply #16816 on: June 09, 2020, 07:28:09 PM »
You'll have to go to the Washington Free Beacon for that second story

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« Reply #16817 on: June 09, 2020, 07:54:28 PM »
Read a little bit on him (assuming its the same guy, Klein). Looks like he wrote a catty email in response to the request and ruffled some feathers unnecessarily. But, yeah, threats to his life are way, way overboard, if true. Presumably it will be properly investigated.

As for the council woman, haven't read about that one, but if as Gmac suggests, then obviously bog-standard political hypocrisy. Presumably she's well embarrassed.

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« Reply #16818 on: June 10, 2020, 02:07:00 PM »
A couple of morons in New Jersey have lost their jobs for staging a "counterprotest" in which they kneeled on someone's neck. Apparently FedEx fired their guy, while the NJ state Department of Corrections have suspended the one who was an officer there.

I can imagine their surprise when they found their employers didn't want to be associated with their conduct.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/nyregion/james-demarco-franklinville-george-floyd-protest.html



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« Reply #16819 on: June 10, 2020, 02:58:39 PM »
Anybody who doesn't believe me when I say the election will be fixed in favour of Trump should take a look at the carry on in Georgia last night.

The plan to deny democracy is literally hiding in plain sight, as it has been for decades, but never more so than now. This issue needs to be front and centre for the next five months to have any hope of stopping it in its tracks.

What's going on is straight out of Russia, as is everything Trump and the Republicans do.

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« Reply #16820 on: June 10, 2020, 05:50:06 PM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
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« Reply #16821 on: June 10, 2020, 08:21:07 PM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesnít agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

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« Reply #16822 on: June 10, 2020, 08:56:04 PM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesnít agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

And?

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« Reply #16823 on: June 10, 2020, 09:01:34 PM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesnít agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

And?
not hearing anything from blm on this do blm not natter for any of these murders and shootings. and is the figure not staggering to you ?

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« Reply #16824 on: June 10, 2020, 09:09:24 PM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesnít agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

And?
not hearing anything from blm on this do blm not natter for any of these murders and shootings. and is the figure not staggering to you ?

Of course its a shocking figure.

I've no idea what BLM does on the ground in Chicago, or if they do anything.

But I'm pretty sure there are all kinds of people in the black community there working their arses off to try to fix the social and gang problems in that city.

Have you looked into that at all?

Or is this just another "black on black crime", "Chicago" attempt to change the subject BLM are trying to address?

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« Reply #16825 on: June 10, 2020, 09:56:12 PM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesnít agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

And?
not hearing anything from blm on this do blm not natter for any of these murders and shootings. and is the figure not staggering to you ?

Of course its a shocking figure.

I've no idea what BLM does on the ground in Chicago, or if they do anything.

But I'm pretty sure there are all kinds of people in the black community there working their arses off to try to fix the social and gang problems in that city.

Have you looked into that at all?

Or is this just another "black on black crime", "Chicago" attempt to change the subject BLM are trying to address?
Have you heard any of the call between the mayor and the dem alderman there she says in the call that she couldnít give a fu$k whatís going on in the street as he begs for help controlling his district  , a shambles of a mayor and a disaster for the already under siege black community there .  Better for her to say fu$k the police than do something constructive for her city . Paint slogans do nothing

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« Reply #16826 on: June 11, 2020, 12:01:16 AM »
Okay, sorry for the mishap with the last one, I've fixed it below, and the latest odds are at the bottom:

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Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.
Odds update:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Bernie's odds moving in the right direction. Biden, not so much.

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:8/1
Biden: 9/1

Update:
Delegate count:
Sanders 31
Buttigieg 22
Warren 8
Biden 8
Klobuchar 7
Bloomberg 0

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 5/6
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:11/1
Biden: 11/1

Interesting that Chrome still thinks "Buttigieg" is a typo.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 4/5
Bloomberg: 4/1
Biden: 10/1
Buttigieg:12/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 4/1
Bloomberg: 11/2
Buttigieg:20/1

Bloomberg and Buttigeig getting it tight.

Bernie's odds are slipping slightly in the general election, but he's still the favourite to get the nomination.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 13/4
Bloomberg: 6/1
Buttigieg:20/1

This stock market crash might throw a spanner in the works. It was this kind of October surprise that worked in Obama's favor in 2008 when "the fundamentals of our economy [were] strong" until they weren't. Trump might cruise to reelection if the economy stays strong, but the coronavirus could change all that.

Get in there Bernie!

Delegate count:
Sanders: 58
Biden: 50
Buttigeig: 26 (I wonder what happens to delegates after a candidate pulls out)
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Biden: 5/2
Bloomberg: 7/1
Hillary Clinton(!): 33/1

This is the first we've seen Trump's odds moving in a while. Could be the coronavirus effect. Damned if I know why they're showing odds for Hillary instead of the likes of Warren or Klobuchar who are actually in the race.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/8
Sanders: 9/1

Trump getting it tight. Looking good for Biden if these odds keep moving the way they are. If he puts Warren on his ticket as VP, that should pick up enough Bernie supporters in November. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1
Delegate count:
Biden 857
Sanders 709

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/14
Sanders: 40/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/16
Sanders: 33/1

The trend is unmistakable.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 25/1

Game over for Trump, it seems. Although it's a long way to November, but I'm not sure how he can come back from this. He can't lie or spin his way out of this. Not even Fox News can help him when the dead start piling up.

From what I saw of the debate it looked like Bernie was knocking it out of the park while Joe was wandering off into the weeds.  Still, Bernie seems to be getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 40/1

Funny old game.

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 11/10

WTF is the matter with people?

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 5/4

Seems like Trump's lash-out-at-the-media-and-shoot-the-messenger strategy is paying off.

But if Biden does get in somehow, I could see him serving one term and then someone like Newsom having a go.

I wouldn't write Biden off yet. It's a long way to November and a lot of dead bodies are going to be piled up between now and then thanks to Donald. A lot will depend on how successful he is in shifting blame away from himself. He'll take credit for anything that goes right and deflect blame for anything that goes wrong, which will play well with the religious crowd who are used to doing that sort of thing with God. I don't know if it'll be enough with swing voters though.
Well well well. Trump starting to get it tight again. Maybe his supporters are dropping dead with the virus.

2020 winner:
Trump 1/1
Biden 5/4

Wheisht! Trump getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)
Biden: 15/13 (1.15/1)

Well well well. Now it's even. Trump's odds of reelection are in freefall. As the covid death toll mounts and the riots spread, I expect to see him get even more desperate. Expect more scapegoating of China, Mexico, immigrants, and people of colour in the next few months. That includes you, Whitey. I assume you're an immigrant. Don't for one minute think he has your back.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden 11/10

Joe seems to be the favourite for the first time. Trump's odds are definitely drifting and Biden's are shortening. Still a bit close for my liking though.
2020 winner:
Biden: 1/1
Trump: 11/10

The "violent protests are hurting Biden" theory doesn't seem to be holding up. His odds are still shortening and Trump's are still drifting. Biden is now the favourite.

2020 winner:
Biden: 19/20
Trump: 11/10

2020 winner:
Biden: 10/11
Trump: 5/4

2020 winner:
Biden: 7/8
Trump: 5/4

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« Reply #16827 on: June 11, 2020, 12:03:51 AM »
Jesus. Thats not annoyin to scroll through

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« Reply #16828 on: June 11, 2020, 12:08:29 AM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesnít agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

Hannah Arendt would have had a field day with you.

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« Reply #16829 on: June 11, 2020, 01:21:33 AM »
Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.
so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesnít agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

And?
not hearing anything from blm on this do blm not natter for any of these murders and shootings. and is the figure not staggering to you ?

Of course its a shocking figure.

I've no idea what BLM does on the ground in Chicago, or if they do anything.

But I'm pretty sure there are all kinds of people in the black community there working their arses off to try to fix the social and gang problems in that city.

Have you looked into that at all?

Or is this just another "black on black crime", "Chicago" attempt to change the subject BLM are trying to address?
The phrase "black on black crime" is very intriguing.

It's almost like it's been designed by white people for the explicit purpose of portraying blackness as being inherently criminal and degenerate.

We don't ever hear about "white crime" in the US (or anywhere), only "black crime".

I wonder why that is.*

Having white people focus on minority ethnicity and/ or religion as an essential component or explanation of crime is something that many, perhaps most ethnic minority communities experience worldwide. British Muslims experience it. Irish Catholics experienced it. Travellers experience it in Ireland.

But white people never experience their skin colour being trotted out as an explantion for crime. Whiteness is never referred to as an essential component or explanation of crime.

*I don't actually wonder why that is.
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