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« Reply #16500 on: June 02, 2020, 11:37:28 PM »
Okay, sorry for the mishap with the last one, I've fixed it below, and the latest odds are at the bottom:

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Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.
Odds update:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Bernie's odds moving in the right direction. Biden, not so much.

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:8/1
Biden: 9/1

Update:
Delegate count:
Sanders 31
Buttigieg 22
Warren 8
Biden 8
Klobuchar 7
Bloomberg 0

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 5/6
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:11/1
Biden: 11/1

Interesting that Chrome still thinks "Buttigieg" is a typo.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 4/5
Bloomberg: 4/1
Biden: 10/1
Buttigieg:12/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 4/1
Bloomberg: 11/2
Buttigieg:20/1

Bloomberg and Buttigeig getting it tight.

Bernie's odds are slipping slightly in the general election, but he's still the favourite to get the nomination.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 13/4
Bloomberg: 6/1
Buttigieg:20/1

This stock market crash might throw a spanner in the works. It was this kind of October surprise that worked in Obama's favor in 2008 when "the fundamentals of our economy [were] strong" until they weren't. Trump might cruise to reelection if the economy stays strong, but the coronavirus could change all that.

Get in there Bernie!

Delegate count:
Sanders: 58
Biden: 50
Buttigeig: 26 (I wonder what happens to delegates after a candidate pulls out)
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Biden: 5/2
Bloomberg: 7/1
Hillary Clinton(!): 33/1

This is the first we've seen Trump's odds moving in a while. Could be the coronavirus effect. Damned if I know why they're showing odds for Hillary instead of the likes of Warren or Klobuchar who are actually in the race.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/8
Sanders: 9/1

Trump getting it tight. Looking good for Biden if these odds keep moving the way they are. If he puts Warren on his ticket as VP, that should pick up enough Bernie supporters in November. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1
Delegate count:
Biden 857
Sanders 709

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/14
Sanders: 40/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/16
Sanders: 33/1

The trend is unmistakable.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 25/1

Game over for Trump, it seems. Although it's a long way to November, but I'm not sure how he can come back from this. He can't lie or spin his way out of this. Not even Fox News can help him when the dead start piling up.

From what I saw of the debate it looked like Bernie was knocking it out of the park while Joe was wandering off into the weeds.  Still, Bernie seems to be getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 40/1

Funny old game.

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 11/10

WTF is the matter with people?

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 5/4

Seems like Trump's lash-out-at-the-media-and-shoot-the-messenger strategy is paying off.

But if Biden does get in somehow, I could see him serving one term and then someone like Newsom having a go.

I wouldn't write Biden off yet. It's a long way to November and a lot of dead bodies are going to be piled up between now and then thanks to Donald. A lot will depend on how successful he is in shifting blame away from himself. He'll take credit for anything that goes right and deflect blame for anything that goes wrong, which will play well with the religious crowd who are used to doing that sort of thing with God. I don't know if it'll be enough with swing voters though.
Well well well. Trump starting to get it tight again. Maybe his supporters are dropping dead with the virus.

2020 winner:
Trump 1/1
Biden 5/4

Wheisht! Trump getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)
Biden: 15/13 (1.15/1)

Well well well. Now it's even. Trump's odds of reelection are in freefall. As the covid death toll mounts and the riots spread, I expect to see him get even more desperate. Expect more scapegoating of China, Mexico, immigrants, and people of colour in the next few months. That includes you, Whitey. I assume you're an immigrant. Don't for one minute think he has your back.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden 11/10

Joe seems to be the favourite for the first time. Trump's odds are definitely drifting and Biden's are shortening. Still a bit close for my liking though.
2020 winner:
Biden: 1/1
Trump: 11/10

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« Reply #16501 on: June 02, 2020, 11:42:09 PM »
Sure lets ban everyone that doesnt agree with your own opinion.

Its a discussion board and rightly or wrongly Whitey is entitles to his own opinion & thoughts.

Censorship indeed....especially at times like this  :-X :-X
You've created a straw man there.

I'm all for diversity of opinion.

But "Whitey" isn't here to debate, or even offer opinion, at least any sort of considered opinion. He's here to troll and derail the thread, and nothing else. That's all he's ever been here to do, which doesn't say much for his life.

I mean there's a reason Gemma O'Doherty doesn't get invited onto any broadcast media.

It should be the same idea as regards online.

Hear bloody hear.
who is Gemma oĒDoherty

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« Reply #16502 on: June 02, 2020, 11:57:59 PM »
NYC has a curfew starting 8pm tonight. Hopefully it works. Those f**kers really went to town last night.

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« Reply #16503 on: June 03, 2020, 12:01:28 AM »
NYC has a curfew starting 8pm tonight. Hopefully it works. Those f**kers really went to town last night.
one here tonight/tomorrow  in San Francisco suburban  8-30 letís see what happens.
Is the mayor and police derelict of duty or too many rioters to handle in nyc ?

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« Reply #16504 on: June 03, 2020, 12:24:04 AM »
NYC has a curfew starting 8pm tonight. Hopefully it works. Those f**kers really went to town last night.
one here tonight/tomorrow  in San Francisco suburban  8-30 letís see what happens.
Is the mayor and police derelict of duty or too many rioters to handle in nyc ?

Don't know.

But Cuomo laid into both today.

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« Reply #16505 on: June 03, 2020, 12:52:43 AM »
NYC has a curfew starting 8pm tonight. Hopefully it works. Those f**kers really went to town last night.
one here tonight/tomorrow  in San Francisco suburban  8-30 letís see what happens.
Is the mayor and police derelict of duty or too many rioters to handle in nyc ?

Don't know.

But Cuomo laid into both today.
Cuomo's Trump like outburst didn't impress me as being of leadership quality.

 It's evidently a different group of people who are doing the looting, different to the groups who are on the protests.
Why do you think this particular group engage in looting?


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« Reply #16506 on: June 03, 2020, 01:25:46 AM »
NYC has a curfew starting 8pm tonight. Hopefully it works. Those f**kers really went to town last night.
one here tonight/tomorrow  in San Francisco suburban  8-30 letís see what happens.
Is the mayor and police derelict of duty or too many rioters to handle in nyc ?

Don't know.

But Cuomo laid into both today.
Cuomo's Trump like outburst didn't impress me as being of leadership quality.

 It's evidently a different group of people who are doing the looting, different to the groups who are on the protests.
Why do you think this particular group engage in looting?

Haven't checked the latest news, but suggestions have been that its a combination of anarchists out to cause mayhem, and agent provocateurs seeking to discredit or foment trouble. I'm sure there's a good helping of locals in there too out for a free case of beer or whatever.

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« Reply #16507 on: June 03, 2020, 07:53:25 AM »
The looters are an absolute disgrace and have no interest in the peaceful protests.

In fact the peaceful protesters are being undermined by them.

Was Trump right to say shoot the looters or how do you actually control them?

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« Reply #16508 on: June 03, 2020, 08:09:16 AM »
I thought everything was Antifaís fault though???

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/

The FBI are probably Antifa sympathisers thatís it!

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« Reply #16509 on: June 03, 2020, 08:22:20 AM »
The looters are an absolute disgrace and have no interest in the peaceful protests.

In fact the peaceful protesters are being undermined by them.

Was Trump right to say shoot the looters or how do you actually control them?

Trump is pretty much like the Tories/ Dup, whatever he says pretty much the opposite is better option.

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« Reply #16510 on: June 03, 2020, 08:36:36 AM »
The looters are an absolute disgrace and have no interest in the peaceful protests.

In fact the peaceful protesters are being undermined by them.

Was Trump right to say shoot the looters or how do you actually control them?

Trump is pretty much like the Tories/ Dup, whatever he says pretty much the opposite is better option.

And pretty much like the Tories/DUP he will get voted in again.

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« Reply #16511 on: June 03, 2020, 08:42:19 AM »
The looters are an absolute disgrace and have no interest in the peaceful protests.

In fact the peaceful protesters are being undermined by them.

Was Trump right to say shoot the looters or how do you actually control them?

Trump is pretty much like the Tories/ Dup, whatever he says pretty much the opposite is better option.

And pretty much like the Tories/DUP he will get voted in again.

Which probably says more about the US education system than anything.
Also says a lot about those more wealthy Americans who vote for these people knowing fine well what they represent, but waiting on that tax break to keep them sweet. The American Dream after all and I include a large swathe of wealthy Black Americans who voted for him. I wonder how they feel about their choice now, or was that quick boom and increase in the bank accounts worth it.


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« Reply #16512 on: June 03, 2020, 09:29:36 AM »
The looters are an absolute disgrace and have no interest in the peaceful protests.

In fact the peaceful protesters are being undermined by them.

Was Trump right to say shoot the looters or how do you actually control them?

Trump is pretty much like the Tories/ Dup, whatever he says pretty much the opposite is better option.

And pretty much like the Tories/DUP he will get voted in again.

Which probably says more about the US education system than anything.
Also says a lot about those more wealthy Americans who vote for these people knowing fine well what they represent, but waiting on that tax break to keep them sweet. The American Dream after all and I include a large swathe of wealthy Black Americans who voted for him. I wonder how they feel about their choice now, or was that quick boom and increase in the bank accounts worth it.

I read a poll (obviously taken with a pinch of salt) that 79% want the National Guard sent in to sort the looters - if Trump does do that guess who comes up smelling of roses?

Social media, while pulling Trump to pieces over this, is not an accurate gauge of public opinion as we found out in a few recent votes

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« Reply #16513 on: June 03, 2020, 09:49:04 AM »
The looters are an absolute disgrace and have no interest in the peaceful protests.

In fact the peaceful protesters are being undermined by them.

Was Trump right to say shoot the looters or how do you actually control them?

Trump is pretty much like the Tories/ Dup, whatever he says pretty much the opposite is better option.

And pretty much like the Tories/DUP he will get voted in again.

Which probably says more about the US education system than anything.
Also says a lot about those more wealthy Americans who vote for these people knowing fine well what they represent, but waiting on that tax break to keep them sweet. The American Dream after all and I include a large swathe of wealthy Black Americans who voted for him. I wonder how they feel about their choice now, or was that quick boom and increase in the bank accounts worth it.

I read a poll (obviously taken with a pinch of salt) that 79% want the National Guard sent in to sort the looters - if Trump does do that guess who comes up smelling of roses?

Social media, while pulling Trump to pieces over this, is not an accurate gauge of public opinion as we found out in a few recent votes

Yeah taking social media out of it because it becomes a cesspit at times, Trump and now the Tories have the same playbook. Blame everything on the MSM its all their fault they are lefties they are lying to you and his supporters and people who dont know any better lap it up. So they can pretty much do anything and have done and then turn it on the MSM (Cummings - #Scummedia).

It's a complete shit show and probably when these riots result in a massive Covid-19 spike Trump will climb out from below it and blame the protestors and MSM for the whole Pandemic mess up (which he created) and walk away scott free.

Oh what times we live in.

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« Reply #16514 on: June 03, 2020, 10:48:57 AM »
Just watched a video of looters in a what looked like a Nike store, dirty scumbags
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