The Many Faces of US Politics...

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sid waddell

Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on May 31, 2020, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 03:05:53 AM
Ah...so you dont live here.  Explains a lot
Your stance now is that the opinion of anybody who doesn't live in America should be dismissed.

Explains a lot about your mindset.

Tease out how your own logic can be applied to history:

"The opinions of those who did not live in Protestant areas of the North of Ireland should bee dismissed. The opinions of those who did not live in white areas of apartheid South Africa should be dismissed. The opinions of those who did not live under Stalin should be dismissed. The opinions of those who did not live in Nazi Germany should be dismissed."

This is literally what you believe. Your search to rationalise your own racism and bigotry can lead you down some very deep rabbit holes.

Still doesn't explain why you dismiss all opinions other than your own, though, no matter where people live.

And especially the views of ethnic and other minorities.

This is comical altogether.....you don't even live here and yet you, somehow, have superior insight and  understanding as to how things work. At the same time you DISMISS the opinions of people who have lived here for decades
I only dismiss i) people who who have no intention of debating in good faith and ii) racists.

You categorically tick both categories.




whitey

#16321
Quote from: sid waddell on May 31, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on May 31, 2020, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 03:05:53 AM
Ah...so you dont live here.  Explains a lot
Your stance now is that the opinion of anybody who doesn't live in America should be dismissed.

Explains a lot about your mindset.

Tease out how your own logic can be applied to history:

"The opinions of those who did not live in Protestant areas of the North of Ireland should bee dismissed. The opinions of those who did not live in white areas of apartheid South Africa should be dismissed. The opinions of those who did not live under Stalin should be dismissed. The opinions of those who did not live in Nazi Germany should be dismissed."

This is literally what you believe. Your search to rationalise your own racism and bigotry can lead you down some very deep rabbit holes.

Still doesn't explain why you dismiss all opinions other than your own, though, no matter where people live.

And especially the views of ethnic and other minorities.

This is comical altogether.....you don't even live here and yet you, somehow, have superior insight and  understanding as to how things work. At the same time you DISMISS the opinions of people who have lived here for decades
I only dismiss i) people who who have no intention of debating in good faith and ii) racists.

You categorically tick both categories.

Live here for 10,20 or 30 years and then come back with some Genuine  opinions  not ones you lifted off some left wing blog

J70

#16322
An NYC cop might be in a spot of bother after pulling a lad's mask down and pepper spraying him in the face. Lad has his hands up.

https://twitter.com/AJRupchandani/status/1266889115288711168

If you look in the comments, Letitia James, NY AG, asked the poster (apparently the lad's aunt) to send the info to her office.


whitey

Quote from: J70 on May 31, 2020, 02:25:34 PM
An NYC cop might be in a spot of bother after pulling a lad's mask down and pepper spraying him in the face. Lad has his hands up.

https://twitter.com/AJRupchandani/status/1266889115288711168

If you look in the comments, Letitia James, NY AG, asked the poster (apparently the lad's aunt) to send the info to her office.


There's going to be some great footage doing the rounds

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndySwan/status/1267081816873328640

sid waddell

Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 12:45:16 PM

Live here for 10,20 or 30 years and then come back with some Genuine  opinions  not ones you lifted off some left wing blog
Again , the racist troll is straight in with the "if you lived here you'd be a racist too" spiel.

He genuinely cannot believe how anybody would have any opinions other than his own racist bile. It flabbergasts him.

As racist trolls go, this guy is the dregs of the dregs.

God help those poor unfortunates who have to put up with him in real life.

To be fair, given his total and utter amazement and confusion that anybody would have different views to him, that's unlikely to be many people.




J70

Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 31, 2020, 02:25:34 PM
An NYC cop might be in a spot of bother after pulling a lad's mask down and pepper spraying him in the face. Lad has his hands up.

https://twitter.com/AJRupchandani/status/1266889115288711168

If you look in the comments, Letitia James, NY AG, asked the poster (apparently the lad's aunt) to send the info to her office.


There's going to be some great footage doing the rounds

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndySwan/status/1267081816873328640

I'm curious why you would post this, without comment, in response to my post.

I think we are all aware that some people are taking advantage of these protests to burn and loot.

sid waddell

White right-wing nut jobs (ie. pretty much the entirety of the Republican party) constantly fantasise about obliterating a supposed tyrannical state which is "oppressing them". That is why they have an almost sexual fetish for guns. Yet they refuse to recognise that black people don't need to imagine that tyranny, they live with it constantly. Black people actually experience the sort of tyranny that whites have never experienced but constantly fantasise abut experiencing.

So given such, they should have no problem with any violence from black people, or if black people start to tool up and form openly armed vigilante groups acting in a threatening manner against police or white people in general - as it is the entirely logical conclusion of the white right wing nutcase argument for mass gun ownership.

But black people are black, and you couldn't be having black people having the same rights as whites, eh.

sid waddell

Donald Trump has 3% (three per cent) support among blacks. There's a damn good chance you'd get a higher percentage of Catholics voting for the DUP.

We are so lucky to have several posters here, on a GAA discussion board, of all things, telling pretty much the entirety of black America that it doesn't know what it's talking about.

"Whitey" knows best, eh.

whitey

Quote from: J70 on May 31, 2020, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 31, 2020, 02:25:34 PM
An NYC cop might be in a spot of bother after pulling a lad's mask down and pepper spraying him in the face. Lad has his hands up.

https://twitter.com/AJRupchandani/status/1266889115288711168

If you look in the comments, Letitia James, NY AG, asked the poster (apparently the lad's aunt) to send the info to her office.


There's going to be some great footage doing the rounds

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndySwan/status/1267081816873328640

I'm curious why you would post this, without comment, in response to my post.

I think we are all aware that some people are taking advantage of these protests to burn and loot.

Your first instinct was to post something to make the cops look bad

My first instinct was to post something to make the rioters/looters look bad

sid waddell

Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 03:52:27 PM

Your first instinct was to post something to make the cops look bad

My first instinct was to post something to make the rioters/looters look bad
Translation: "whites good, blacks bad".

Your racist veil fell long ago.


whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on May 31, 2020, 03:58:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 03:52:27 PM

Your first instinct was to post something to make the cops look bad

My first instinct was to post something to make the rioters/looters look bad
Translation: "whites good, blacks bad".

Your racist veil fell long ago.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNN

whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on May 31, 2020, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 12:45:16 PM

Live here for 10,20 or 30 years and then come back with some Genuine  opinions  not ones you lifted off some left wing blog
Again , the racist troll is straight in with the "if you lived here you'd be a racist too" spiel.

He genuinely cannot believe how anybody would have any opinions other than his own racist bile. It flabbergasts him.

As racist trolls go, this guy is the dregs of the dregs.

God help those poor unfortunates who have to put up with him in real life.

To be fair, given his total and utter amazement and confusion that anybody would have different views to him, that's unlikely to be many people.

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J70

Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 31, 2020, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 31, 2020, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 31, 2020, 02:25:34 PM
An NYC cop might be in a spot of bother after pulling a lad's mask down and pepper spraying him in the face. Lad has his hands up.

https://twitter.com/AJRupchandani/status/1266889115288711168

If you look in the comments, Letitia James, NY AG, asked the poster (apparently the lad's aunt) to send the info to her office.


There's going to be some great footage doing the rounds

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndySwan/status/1267081816873328640

I'm curious why you would post this, without comment, in response to my post.

I think we are all aware that some people are taking advantage of these protests to burn and loot.

Your first instinct was to post something to make the cops look bad

My first instinct was to post something to make the rioters/looters look bad

Good you're admitting to what YOUR reflex reaction is.

I'll speak for myself, thank you.

I have no history of anticop rhetoric. I posted it because the NY AG had responded on Twitter, asking the aunt of the victim to send it to her office. A state AG saying she'll look into a film of a cop ripping a mask off a guy and spraying him is newsworthy at the moment, is it not?

whitey

It was a tongue in cheek comment (but the lefties on my twitter feed were running very hard this morning with an anti law enforcement agenda, completely ignoring the rioting and looting that was going on)

omaghjoe

Quote from: sid waddell on May 31, 2020, 09:14:22 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on May 31, 2020, 05:12:44 AM

Its seems like your just reverting to irrelevant retoric. I get it you dont like trump and think hes the akin to the worst regimes in history.
You dont want to know anything about the grievances that he seized upon to gain power. Until those are addressed you wont deal with the symptoms. But I get it, it's messy more difficult to understand no good solutions, easier to demonise which is a guaranteed non solution
The reason you claim what I say is "irrelevant" is that you don't suffer in any way from racism perpetrated by whites.

And thus you have taken a stance that it is entirely irrelevant to you.

In other words, your stance is "I'm alright, Jack, racism is fine, as long as I'm not the victim of it."

Belief in white supremacism is not a "grievance", as you claim.

Inequality of wealth and life chances is a grievance.

Which precisely nobody in the Republican party has any intention of dealing with - Republican ideology is based on perpetuating it - and which Trump has made exponentially worse.

Anybody who genuinely cared about wealth inequality would be all in for preogressive candidates, of which precisely none exist in the Republican party.

Trump cares less than nothing for poor people. He cares only about channelling wealth to the very richest in society. He is an elite plutocrat fascist with a literal dystopian "burn it down" vision of society, backed monetarily by people of the exact same mindset.

I get it exactly about people like you. And that's what bothers you and others like you here.

You can come up with all the excuses in the world for the reasons you think like you do, but you won't find a legitimate one, you'll only find a fake rationalisation for your own bigotry.

I'm curious.... what is my "stance"? And on what exactly?

Just for reference..I was calling out your vitriol and unwillingness to understand root causes of political phenomenons like the current populist nationalism sweeping the world. I never expressed any opinion on that political movement.... so what exactly makes me a bigot?