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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #15420 on: March 24, 2020, 08:17:15 PM »
Okay, sorry for the mishap with the last one, I've fixed it below, and the latest odds are at the bottom:

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Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.
Odds update:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Bernie's odds moving in the right direction. Biden, not so much.

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:8/1
Biden: 9/1

Update:
Delegate count:
Sanders 31
Buttigieg 22
Warren 8
Biden 8
Klobuchar 7
Bloomberg 0

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 5/6
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:11/1
Biden: 11/1

Interesting that Chrome still thinks "Buttigieg" is a typo.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 4/5
Bloomberg: 4/1
Biden: 10/1
Buttigieg:12/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 4/1
Bloomberg: 11/2
Buttigieg:20/1

Bloomberg and Buttigeig getting it tight.

Bernie's odds are slipping slightly in the general election, but he's still the favourite to get the nomination.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 13/4
Bloomberg: 6/1
Buttigieg:20/1

This stock market crash might throw a spanner in the works. It was this kind of October surprise that worked in Obama's favor in 2008 when "the fundamentals of our economy [were] strong" until they weren't. Trump might cruise to reelection if the economy stays strong, but the coronavirus could change all that.

Get in there Bernie!

Delegate count:
Sanders: 58
Biden: 50
Buttigeig: 26 (I wonder what happens to delegates after a candidate pulls out)
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Biden: 5/2
Bloomberg: 7/1
Hillary Clinton(!): 33/1

This is the first we've seen Trump's odds moving in a while. Could be the coronavirus effect. Damned if I know why they're showing odds for Hillary instead of the likes of Warren or Klobuchar who are actually in the race.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/8
Sanders: 9/1

Trump getting it tight. Looking good for Biden if these odds keep moving the way they are. If he puts Warren on his ticket as VP, that should pick up enough Bernie supporters in November. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1
Delegate count:
Biden 857
Sanders 709

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/14
Sanders: 40/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/16
Sanders: 33/1

The trend is unmistakable.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 25/1

Game over for Trump, it seems. Although it's a long way to November, but I'm not sure how he can come back from this. He can't lie or spin his way out of this. Not even Fox News can help him when the dead start piling up.

From what I saw of the debate it looked like Bernie was knocking it out of the park while Joe was wandering off into the weeds.  Still, Bernie seems to be getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 40/1

Funny old game.

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 11/10

WTF is the matter with people?

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« Reply #15421 on: March 24, 2020, 08:27:49 PM »
If 1/2 of what is being said is true about what the Democrats tried to slip into the stimulus Bill, then they just handed Trump around 5 points in November

What is being said by Republicans, talk radio, Fox News and right wing websites and social media accounts is almost certainly not true or a ridiculous exaggeration but that won't stop it being regurgitated by those groups.

I attempted to find a report in CNN or the WaPo detailing what the sticking points were but (un)surprisingly there werenít any reports I could find

I did find this website which seems to be somewhat middle of the road

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.countable.us/articles/43215-s-house-democrats-coronavirus-relief-bill.amp


https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/countable-news/%3famp





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« Reply #15422 on: March 24, 2020, 08:28:47 PM »
Okay, sorry for the mishap with the last one, I've fixed it below, and the latest odds are at the bottom:

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Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.
Odds update:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Bernie's odds moving in the right direction. Biden, not so much.

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:8/1
Biden: 9/1

Update:
Delegate count:
Sanders 31
Buttigieg 22
Warren 8
Biden 8
Klobuchar 7
Bloomberg 0

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 5/6
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:11/1
Biden: 11/1

Interesting that Chrome still thinks "Buttigieg" is a typo.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 4/5
Bloomberg: 4/1
Biden: 10/1
Buttigieg:12/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 4/1
Bloomberg: 11/2
Buttigieg:20/1

Bloomberg and Buttigeig getting it tight.

Bernie's odds are slipping slightly in the general election, but he's still the favourite to get the nomination.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 13/4
Bloomberg: 6/1
Buttigieg:20/1

This stock market crash might throw a spanner in the works. It was this kind of October surprise that worked in Obama's favor in 2008 when "the fundamentals of our economy [were] strong" until they weren't. Trump might cruise to reelection if the economy stays strong, but the coronavirus could change all that.

Get in there Bernie!

Delegate count:
Sanders: 58
Biden: 50
Buttigeig: 26 (I wonder what happens to delegates after a candidate pulls out)
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Biden: 5/2
Bloomberg: 7/1
Hillary Clinton(!): 33/1

This is the first we've seen Trump's odds moving in a while. Could be the coronavirus effect. Damned if I know why they're showing odds for Hillary instead of the likes of Warren or Klobuchar who are actually in the race.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/8
Sanders: 9/1

Trump getting it tight. Looking good for Biden if these odds keep moving the way they are. If he puts Warren on his ticket as VP, that should pick up enough Bernie supporters in November. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1
Delegate count:
Biden 857
Sanders 709

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/14
Sanders: 40/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/16
Sanders: 33/1

The trend is unmistakable.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 25/1

Game over for Trump, it seems. Although it's a long way to November, but I'm not sure how he can come back from this. He can't lie or spin his way out of this. Not even Fox News can help him when the dead start piling up.

From what I saw of the debate it looked like Bernie was knocking it out of the park while Joe was wandering off into the weeds.  Still, Bernie seems to be getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 40/1

Funny old game.

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 11/10

WTF is the matter with people?

Maybe, unlike you,  they donít rely on CNN for their information

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« Reply #15423 on: March 24, 2020, 08:53:00 PM »


WTF is the matter with people?

Maybe, unlike you,  they donít rely on CNN for their information

I don't watch CNN or any cable news. Where do you get your information? From Fox "coronavirus is a hoax" News?

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« Reply #15424 on: March 24, 2020, 09:31:16 PM »


WTF is the matter with people?

Maybe, unlike you,  they donít rely on CNN for their information

I don't watch CNN or any cable news. Where do you get your information? From Fox "coronavirus is a hoax" News?

It's not a hoax on Fox any more. Now that Donald is pretending to take it seriously, Fox is echoing his comments.

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« Reply #15425 on: March 24, 2020, 10:39:18 PM »


WTF is the matter with people?

Maybe, unlike you,  they donít rely on CNN for their information

I don't watch CNN or any cable news. Where do you get your information? From Fox "coronavirus is a hoax" News?

It's not a hoax on Fox any more. Now that Donald is pretending to take it seriously, Fox is echoing his comments.

And they're denying that they ever called it a hoax even though you can easily pull up clips of them saying it was. Orwell was onto something.

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« Reply #15426 on: March 24, 2020, 11:22:38 PM »
Okay, sorry for the mishap with the last one, I've fixed it below, and the latest odds are at the bottom:

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Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.
Odds update:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Bernie's odds moving in the right direction. Biden, not so much.

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:8/1
Biden: 9/1

Update:
Delegate count:
Sanders 31
Buttigieg 22
Warren 8
Biden 8
Klobuchar 7
Bloomberg 0

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 5/6
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:11/1
Biden: 11/1

Interesting that Chrome still thinks "Buttigieg" is a typo.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 4/5
Bloomberg: 4/1
Biden: 10/1
Buttigieg:12/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 4/1
Bloomberg: 11/2
Buttigieg:20/1

Bloomberg and Buttigeig getting it tight.

Bernie's odds are slipping slightly in the general election, but he's still the favourite to get the nomination.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 13/4
Bloomberg: 6/1
Buttigieg:20/1

This stock market crash might throw a spanner in the works. It was this kind of October surprise that worked in Obama's favor in 2008 when "the fundamentals of our economy [were] strong" until they weren't. Trump might cruise to reelection if the economy stays strong, but the coronavirus could change all that.

Get in there Bernie!

Delegate count:
Sanders: 58
Biden: 50
Buttigeig: 26 (I wonder what happens to delegates after a candidate pulls out)
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Biden: 5/2
Bloomberg: 7/1
Hillary Clinton(!): 33/1

This is the first we've seen Trump's odds moving in a while. Could be the coronavirus effect. Damned if I know why they're showing odds for Hillary instead of the likes of Warren or Klobuchar who are actually in the race.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/8
Sanders: 9/1

Trump getting it tight. Looking good for Biden if these odds keep moving the way they are. If he puts Warren on his ticket as VP, that should pick up enough Bernie supporters in November. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1
Delegate count:
Biden 857
Sanders 709

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/14
Sanders: 40/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/16
Sanders: 33/1

The trend is unmistakable.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 25/1

Game over for Trump, it seems. Although it's a long way to November, but I'm not sure how he can come back from this. He can't lie or spin his way out of this. Not even Fox News can help him when the dead start piling up.

From what I saw of the debate it looked like Bernie was knocking it out of the park while Joe was wandering off into the weeds.  Still, Bernie seems to be getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 40/1

Funny old game.

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 11/10

WTF is the matter with people?

If you ever needed proof that there's no such thing as bad publicity....

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« Reply #15427 on: March 25, 2020, 12:29:36 AM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.
There is no way he can get reelected

LOL-thatís what people said in 2016 (minus ďreĒ)

If 1/2 of what is being said is true about what the Democrats tried to slip into the stimulus Bill, then they just handed Trump around 5 points in November

Is it more funding for prison sex-change operations? That's one particular thing you seem very interested in.

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« Reply #15428 on: March 25, 2020, 01:06:56 AM »
As Trump sidelines medical and public health expertise and bullshits about ďopening upĒ the country, they issue an alert that anyone leaving or having recently left NYC immediately self quarantine for two weeks.

Shit is going to get really bad here, but itís not stopping at the N.Y. metropolitan area borders.

Better hope you donít need one of those elusive ventilators.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 01:12:10 AM by J70 »

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« Reply #15429 on: March 25, 2020, 06:55:43 AM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.
There is no way he can get reelected

LOL-thatís what people said in 2016 (minus ďreĒ)

If 1/2 of what is being said is true about what the Democrats tried to slip into the stimulus Bill, then they just handed Trump around 5 points in November

Is it more funding for prison sex-change operations? That's one particular thing you seem very interested in.

https://youtu.be/JtPQQjj01kM

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« Reply #15430 on: March 25, 2020, 07:24:55 AM »
As Trump sidelines medical and public health expertise and bullshits about ďopening upĒ the country, they issue an alert that anyone leaving or having recently left NYC immediately self quarantine for two weeks.

Shit is going to get really bad here, but itís not stopping at the N.Y. metropolitan area borders.

Better hope you donít need one of those elusive ventilators.

Plenty of blame to go around

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/18/new_yorks_ventilator_rationing_plan_142685.html

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« Reply #15431 on: March 25, 2020, 11:25:11 AM »
As Trump sidelines medical and public health expertise and bullshits about ďopening upĒ the country, they issue an alert that anyone leaving or having recently left NYC immediately self quarantine for two weeks.

Shit is going to get really bad here, but itís not stopping at the N.Y. metropolitan area borders.

Better hope you donít need one of those elusive ventilators.

Plenty of blame to go around

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/18/new_yorks_ventilator_rationing_plan_142685.html

No doubt. And an issue that is being and will be repeated all over, not just in NY. Which makes it all the more urgent for Trump to get his shit together and use the powers he unlocked with so much fanfare to get a coordinated federal response to this problem in place, rather than having states compete against each other and other countries for supplies. Might be too late, in terms of the next couple of months, for NY, but this shit is going to hit all over.

As an aside, hopefully an outcome of all this will be a bit more willingness on behalf of politicians and citizens to better plan for the future, whether its disaster preparedness or climate change or conservation or whatever. That, and a proper appreciation for expertise and science.

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« Reply #15432 on: March 25, 2020, 11:51:08 AM »
As Trump sidelines medical and public health expertise and bullshits about ďopening upĒ the country, they issue an alert that anyone leaving or having recently left NYC immediately self quarantine for two weeks.

Shit is going to get really bad here, but itís not stopping at the N.Y. metropolitan area borders.

Better hope you donít need one of those elusive ventilators.

Plenty of blame to go around

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/18/new_yorks_ventilator_rationing_plan_142685.html

No doubt. And an issue that is being and will be repeated all over, not just in NY. Which makes it all the more urgent for Trump to get his shit together and use the powers he unlocked with so much fanfare to get a coordinated federal response to this problem in place, rather than having states compete against each other and other countries for supplies. Might be too late, in terms of the next couple of months, for NY, but this shit is going to hit all over.

As an aside, hopefully an outcome of all this will be a bit more willingness on behalf of politicians and citizens to better plan for the future, whether its disaster preparedness or climate change or conservation or whatever. That, and a proper appreciation for expertise and science.

It was known back in early February that this was going to be as bad as it is

Trump didnít take the action then that he should have taken because he knew the consequences for the economy (and his re election) would be dire

I donít know what the Democrats were up to during this time frame.....they sit on the same committees and have access to (pretty much) all of the same information

DeBlasio trying to lay ALL this at Trumps door is ridiculous. I knew there was more to the story when Cuomo wasnít going all in on Trump

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« Reply #15433 on: March 25, 2020, 01:41:52 PM »
You mean the same Democrats who Trump and the right were, until little over a week ago, accusing of hyping up the danger and creating a new "hoax" to tank the market and finally get Trump?
As for Cuomo, he has been superb through all of this. A proper leader in a difficult time, like Guiliani was before him after 9/11 (let's hope he doesn't disgrace himself later like Giuliani did). For now, Cuomo needs Trump. I'd say that has been the primary reason for not going too hard on him. As the daily briefings currently exhibit (Pence, if he has an ounce of dignity and self-awareness, must die a little inside during each press conference), you have to bow down and flatter, publicly, to get anywhere with Trump. The Times published a long article on the ventilator issue more than a week ago. If Trump wants to fall back on the findings of a long-standing state health committee that produced the 2015 analysis, let him, but that does not excuse his performance to date. What will he do when its a Republican governor with the same problem? Its not like it hasn't been a widespread issue.
DeBlasio - I'm not sure how many pay attention to anything he says. Like Trump, he has been completely upstaged by Cuomo, again, and became irrelevant when Cuomo made him finally shut the schools.

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« Reply #15434 on: March 25, 2020, 02:33:12 PM »
You mean the same Democrats who Trump and the right were, until little over a week ago, accusing of hyping up the danger and creating a new "hoax" to tank the market and finally get Trump?
As for Cuomo, he has been superb through all of this. A proper leader in a difficult time, like Guiliani was before him after 9/11 (let's hope he doesn't disgrace himself later like Giuliani did). For now, Cuomo needs Trump. I'd say that has been the primary reason for not going too hard on him. As the daily briefings currently exhibit (Pence, if he has an ounce of dignity and self-awareness, must die a little inside during each press conference), you have to bow down and flatter, publicly, to get anywhere with Trump. The Times published a long article on the ventilator issue more than a week ago. If Trump wants to fall back on the findings of a long-standing state health committee that produced the 2015 analysis, let him, but that does not excuse his performance to date. What will he do when its a Republican governor with the same problem? Its not like it hasn't been a widespread issue.
DeBlasio - I'm not sure how many pay attention to anything he says. Like Trump, he has been completely upstaged by Cuomo, again, and became irrelevant when Cuomo made him finally shut the schools.

Trump fvcked this up royally, but the Democrats are playing right into his hands by continually blaming him for $hit that was/is outside his control.

 DeBlasio and the ventilators is just the best example where Trump can throw it right back at them with spades

ďIt's a lot of money but less than the $750 million he threw away on a boondoggle "Buffalo Billion" solar panel factoryĒ-per the Politico article