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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #15405 on: March 16, 2020, 04:59:46 PM »
Okay, sorry for the mishap with the last one, I've fixed it below, and the latest odds are at the bottom:

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Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.
Odds update:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Bernie's odds moving in the right direction. Biden, not so much.

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:8/1
Biden: 9/1

Update:
Delegate count:
Sanders 31
Buttigieg 22
Warren 8
Biden 8
Klobuchar 7
Bloomberg 0

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 5/6
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:11/1
Biden: 11/1

Interesting that Chrome still thinks "Buttigieg" is a typo.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 4/5
Bloomberg: 4/1
Biden: 10/1
Buttigieg:12/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 4/1
Bloomberg: 11/2
Buttigieg:20/1

Bloomberg and Buttigeig getting it tight.

Bernie's odds are slipping slightly in the general election, but he's still the favourite to get the nomination.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 13/4
Bloomberg: 6/1
Buttigieg:20/1

This stock market crash might throw a spanner in the works. It was this kind of October surprise that worked in Obama's favor in 2008 when "the fundamentals of our economy [were] strong" until they weren't. Trump might cruise to reelection if the economy stays strong, but the coronavirus could change all that.

Get in there Bernie!

Delegate count:
Sanders: 58
Biden: 50
Buttigeig: 26 (I wonder what happens to delegates after a candidate pulls out)
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Biden: 5/2
Bloomberg: 7/1
Hillary Clinton(!): 33/1

This is the first we've seen Trump's odds moving in a while. Could be the coronavirus effect. Damned if I know why they're showing odds for Hillary instead of the likes of Warren or Klobuchar who are actually in the race.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/8
Sanders: 9/1

Trump getting it tight. Looking good for Biden if these odds keep moving the way they are. If he puts Warren on his ticket as VP, that should pick up enough Bernie supporters in November. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1
Delegate count:
Biden 857
Sanders 709

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/14
Sanders: 40/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/16
Sanders: 33/1

The trend is unmistakable.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 25/1

Game over for Trump, it seems. Although it's a long way to November, but I'm not sure how he can come back from this. He can't lie or spin his way out of this. Not even Fox News can help him when the dead start piling up.

From what I saw of the debate it looked like Bernie was knocking it out of the park while Joe was wandering off into the weeds.  Still, Bernie seems to be getting it tight now.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 40/1

Funny old game.

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #15406 on: March 16, 2020, 05:05:44 PM »
Joe can’t hold up in a debate with trump he might think it’s 1960 again and ask him behind the bike shed for a fight , if the virus turns out to be less than the disaster people are predicting he will use it to say his measures worked whether it’s true or not , the result depends on how things shake out in Next few months, the trump presidency is over headline is on its about fiftieth go around now I’ll believe it when it happens.

What you cannot deny right now is that the whole is moving forward despite him.

States are acting, cities are acting, companies are acting, sports organizations are acting.

Almost all we've had from Trump is first denial and conspiracy, blame shifting and attempts to take false credit. He gets contradicted by his staff, then jumps in and contradicts them and later, makes them sing his praises on camera like they were victims in a hostage video. He is getting upstaged by Dr. Fauci on a daily basis.

People listen to Fauci. No one is listening to Trump for anything worthwhile on this problem.

What should absolutely be a campaign video is that presser where he openly and brazenly admitted that he didn't want the cruise ship to dock because it would spoil the numbers for him. As if those poor people weren't real until they left the boat and stood on shore and all that really mattered was optics and appearance for Trump, not the problems of actual people.

But that's par for the course for him.
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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #15407 on: March 16, 2020, 06:29:07 PM »
It looks like Trump is finished.
Lookit

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« Reply #15408 on: March 16, 2020, 06:39:17 PM »
It looks like Trump is finished.

I wouldn’t pop the champagne quite yet. He’s like a vampire

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« Reply #15409 on: March 16, 2020, 08:23:06 PM »
It looks like Trump is finished.

I wouldn’t pop the champagne quite yet. He’s like a vampire

Coronavirus will kill a lot of Evangelicals.
None of the preachers will be saying Trump was sent by God.
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« Reply #15410 on: March 17, 2020, 05:52:42 PM »
It looks like Trump is finished.

I wouldn’t pop the champagne quite yet. He’s like a vampire

Coronavirus will kill a lot of Evangelicals.
None of the preachers will be saying Trump was sent by God.

He's looking at buying votes with $1K in everyones pocket!

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« Reply #15411 on: March 17, 2020, 06:13:57 PM »
It looks like Trump is finished.

I wouldn’t pop the champagne quite yet. He’s like a vampire

Coronavirus will kill a lot of Evangelicals.
None of the preachers will be saying Trump was sent by God.

He's looking at buying votes with $1K in everyones pocket!

At least he is now finally starting to take this whole mess seriously.

Cuomo has been a star here in NY so far. Decisive and taking responsibility for his decisions.

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« Reply #15412 on: March 24, 2020, 06:50:32 PM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.

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« Reply #15413 on: March 24, 2020, 07:22:19 PM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.

Well the oldsters in Texas will gladly offer themselves up so that the economy can be saved
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1242245135129346050
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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« Reply #15414 on: March 24, 2020, 07:35:44 PM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.

Well the oldsters in Texas will gladly offer themselves up so that the economy can be saved
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1242245135129346050

It will be interesting to hear what the brave Lt. Governor has to say if in a few weeks he's waiting, in terrible pain, for a non-existent ventilator, lungs fucked, turning blue, unable to catch a single breath.

Although one would imagine a man like himself will have no issue with a ventilator being provided.

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« Reply #15415 on: March 24, 2020, 07:36:02 PM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.
There is no way he can get reelected
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« Reply #15416 on: March 24, 2020, 07:39:58 PM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.
There is no way he can get reelected

LOL-that’s what people said in 2016 (minus “re”)

If 1/2 of what is being said is true about what the Democrats tried to slip into the stimulus Bill, then they just handed Trump around 5 points in November

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« Reply #15417 on: March 24, 2020, 07:41:04 PM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.
There is no way he can get reelected

Luckily for most US citizens, the governors, including some Republicans, seem to be taking this far more seriously than him.

All he f**king sees is the DJ.

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« Reply #15418 on: March 24, 2020, 08:02:12 PM »
Trump wants the US "raring to go by Easter".

Deluded.
There is no way he can get reelected

LOL-that’s what people said in 2016 (minus “re”)

If 1/2 of what is being said is true about what the Democrats tried to slip into the stimulus Bill, then they just handed Trump around 5 points in November

No one will give a f**k once it passes tonight, especially given what's facing the country.

But if it does become an issue, the Dems have more than ample ground to fight their corner on what each side wanted.

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« Reply #15419 on: March 24, 2020, 08:11:42 PM »
If 1/2 of what is being said is true about what the Democrats tried to slip into the stimulus Bill, then they just handed Trump around 5 points in November

What is being said by Republicans, talk radio, Fox News and right wing websites and social media accounts is almost certainly not true or a ridiculous exaggeration but that won't stop it being regurgitated by those groups.