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« Reply #14835 on: March 24, 2019, 09:16:25 PM »
The report doesn't actually exonerate Trump though even though he's after tweeting it has.
We should know more than most...
"Innocent until proven guilty"...

I'm not arguing that. I just said it didn't exonerate him as his tweet suggested.

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« Reply #14836 on: March 24, 2019, 09:24:10 PM »
The report doesn't actually exonerate Trump though even though he's after tweeting it has.
We should know more than most...
"Innocent until proven guilty"...

I'm not arguing that. I just said it didn't exonerate him as his tweet suggested.
I'd say it kind of does under the premise of innocent until proven guilty.
Its wordplay to suggest otherwise.

This was a huge idiotic wild goose chase to go after trump with. I'm sure there are many other things he could be hung out to dry on.. but these big ticket ones those idiot Democrats  chose to pursue are just completely obviously false!!
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« Reply #14837 on: March 25, 2019, 01:49:01 AM »
I told you so Eamonnca1  :-*

Will all those who accused President Trump of colluding with Russia be man enough to admit they were wrong?

Surely the anti-Trump camp aren't going to continue pushing the collusion theory. Democrat mental cases like Adam Schitt are planning to try.

If there are any neutrals reading this maybe this is the evidence you needed to see to show that the President has been telling the truth the whole way through.
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« Reply #14838 on: March 25, 2019, 02:00:33 AM »
i'ts going to be an interesting read of the actual report. Barr's summary is interesting, and Barr clearly is positioning that there is no smoking gun, however the idea that there is not enough evidence for prosecution is very different from an exoneration.

Let's be honest though, Trump looks like he has dodged at least this bullet.  Not that he didn't collude with Russia, but that there isn't enough evidence available to the Special Investigator to convict him.

However this is the kicker:

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the President has been telling the truth the whole way through

im not sure he knows what the truth even is as a concept
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

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« Reply #14839 on: March 25, 2019, 10:59:47 AM »
Trump off the hook for now and social media in complete melt down on both sides . . . just a normal day I suppose.

A lot seem to think this hands him re-election. I can't see that there's far too much still to happen between now and then for it to be a foregone conclusion. As long as the Dems don't scratch eachothers eyes out there looks to be a couple in there who could properly challenge Trump without Hillary's baggage and the only reason Trump won is because of Hillary.

Also there are still multiple investigations into Trump ongoing so he's not completely out of the woods yet.

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« Reply #14840 on: March 25, 2019, 11:17:30 AM »
The report doesn't actually exonerate Trump though even though he's after tweeting it has.
We should know more than most...
"Innocent until proven guilty"...

I'm not arguing that. I just said it didn't exonerate him as his tweet suggested.
I'd say it kind of does under the premise of innocent until proven guilty.
Its wordplay to suggest otherwise.

This was a huge idiotic wild goose chase to go after trump with. I'm sure there are many other things he could be hung out to dry on.. but these big ticket ones those idiot Democrats  chose to pursue are just completely obviously false!!

HIS Justice Dept opened the Mueller investigation in response to, among other things, Trump admitting on national television that he had fired Comey because of the Russia thing.

Dems had no power whatsoever to open anything at the time.

It is rather curious though that so many of the lads got caught lying about issues connected to Russia if they all had nothing to hide. And that his legal representatives wouldn't even let Trump testify, so afraid were they of him getting himself in trouble over his inability to tell the truth.

Personally, I don't give a bollocks. I never expected anything to happen to Trump, no matter what the truth is, because this shit is ALL political in the US. I'm just annoyed that I have to ignore the news for the next few days as the odious sc**bag does a lap of honour and then we're back to square one as the various state investigations continue.

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« Reply #14841 on: March 25, 2019, 11:21:01 AM »
Trump off the hook for now and social media in complete melt down on both sides . . . just a normal day I suppose.

A lot seem to think this hands him re-election. I can't see that there's far too much still to happen between now and then for it to be a foregone conclusion. As long as the Dems don't scratch eachothers eyes out there looks to be a couple in there who could properly challenge Trump without Hillary's baggage and the only reason Trump won is because of Hillary.

Also there are still multiple investigations into Trump ongoing so he's not completely out of the woods yet.

Its way too early to predict anything about next year's election.

A lot is going to depend on who the Dems nominate and whether that person is fit to get down in the gutter with a shameless lowlife like Trump. So far, its rather uninspiring stuff.

And, of course, events and developments will all play a huge part.

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« Reply #14842 on: March 25, 2019, 11:43:18 AM »
Trump off the hook for now and social media in complete melt down on both sides . . . just a normal day I suppose.

A lot seem to think this hands him re-election. I can't see that there's far too much still to happen between now and then for it to be a foregone conclusion. As long as the Dems don't scratch eachothers eyes out there looks to be a couple in there who could properly challenge Trump without Hillary's baggage and the only reason Trump won is because of Hillary.

Also there are still multiple investigations into Trump ongoing so he's not completely out of the woods yet.

Its way too early to predict anything about next year's election.

A lot is going to depend on who the Dems nominate and whether that person is fit to get down in the gutter with a shameless lowlife like Trump. So far, its rather uninspiring stuff.

And, of course, events and developments will all play a huge part.
Especially the economy
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« Reply #14843 on: March 25, 2019, 12:12:46 PM »
Is the economy going to hold up??

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« Reply #14844 on: March 25, 2019, 12:20:10 PM »
Is the economy going to hold up??

It's going to blow up again but whether  or not it does before the next election is the big question
Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

In order to be ready for it the US needs a budget surplus and interest rates of at least 5%.
Both are currently in "not a snowball's " territory 
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« Reply #14845 on: March 25, 2019, 12:39:11 PM »
However this is the kicker:

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the President has been telling the truth the whole way through

im not sure he knows what the truth even is as a concept

Is it the kicker because after 2 years they still couldn't find anything to pin on him?

Seriously lads, you just look like fools trying to justify the investigation. For those now saying that it was a republican investigation I believe for quite some time you were massive Mueller cheerleaders, not to mention that  sizeable amount of his team were democrats. You think if there was a chance to make their case and find the president guilty they wouldn't have taken it.

He's not guilty. Let it go and salvage whatever dignity you have.
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« Reply #14846 on: March 25, 2019, 12:41:15 PM »
[Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

2008 - When Obama took over and made a balls of it. Place the blame where it should be.

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« Reply #14847 on: March 25, 2019, 12:55:59 PM »
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"While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."


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« Reply #14848 on: March 25, 2019, 01:33:51 PM »
Is the economy going to hold up??

It's going to blow up again but whether  or not it does before the next election is the big question
Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

In order to be ready for it the US needs a budget surplus and interest rates of at least 5%.
Both are currently in "not a snowball's " territory

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Economic cycles are cyclical, this expansion has lasted ten years, extended somewhat by the pro business policies of Trump government, coupled with trump tax cuts. It will without a doubt come to and end, like all others.
Reason US rates so low is that rates in Japan and Europe have turned negative. Why does any developed economy need 5% interest rates,  (to cause a recession ?).
Despite what a lot of Dems would like you to believe, the economy here is still booming, unemployment levels still below 4%, i.e full employment, wages have gone up because of this.
Due to the above, the only thing they could do was bash him for past two years, he is far far from perfect, and has made a lot of mistakes.
I have mentioned before, can somebody please tell us, what democrats actually stand for and what are their economic goals/ambitions.
Certainly not impressed with what they rolled out so far.
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« Reply #14849 on: March 25, 2019, 02:23:03 PM »
Trump off the hook for now and social media in complete melt down on both sides . . . just a normal day I suppose.

A lot seem to think this hands him re-election. I can't see that there's far too much still to happen between now and then for it to be a foregone conclusion. As long as the Dems don't scratch eachothers eyes out there looks to be a couple in there who could properly challenge Trump without Hillary's baggage and the only reason Trump won is because of Hillary.

Also there are still multiple investigations into Trump ongoing so he's not completely out of the woods yet.

You mean more made up stuff by the Democrats. Are you still pinning your hopes of impeachment on Stormy Daniels?
I see Nadler and Schitt are squirming right now trying to make out that if they don't release all the Mueller papers then there must be something to hide. Yet they still try to obstruct the FISA warrants and the Hillary investigation. It's time to come out and say the Russia Collusion story was a political ploy to delegitimize Trump.


I'm looking forward to watching all the public apologies to President Trump from the Fake news media and democrat politicians. Especially Don LeMon. Odious sc**bag.
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