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« Reply #13890 on: January 11, 2019, 05:06:19 PM »
And which part of that do the Democrats no longer support. They have consistently supported border security measures. The only difference between them and your boy “Trump” is they want to be humane and intelligent about how they do it. Come on be honest .. it’s all those brown people coming to clean up your garbage and pick your fruit that scare you. Don’t hear Trump talking about walling off Canada or spending money on tracking Visa “overstays”.

Why are you being racist about this? It's about rule of law, not the color of skin. Democrats like Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer know this and have advocated barriers previously and warned about illegal immigration.  If you want to be honest it's all about not giving Trump a win on a campaign promise. Nothing else.

I was unaware eskimos were pouring through the northern border.
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« Reply #13891 on: January 11, 2019, 05:28:04 PM »
And which part of that do the Democrats no longer support. They have consistently supported border security measures. The only difference between them and your boy “Trump” is they want to be humane and intelligent about how they do it. Come on be honest .. it’s all those brown people coming to clean up your garbage and pick your fruit that scare you. Don’t hear Trump talking about walling off Canada or spending money on tracking Visa “overstays”.

We don’t share a (direct or indirect) northern border with 640,000,000 people, most of whom live in third world conditions. 

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« Reply #13892 on: January 11, 2019, 06:10:52 PM »
Why were the majority of Senate Democrats (including Obama and HRC) all for increasing border security in 2006...but are so militarily opposed to the idea in 2018?

What changed?

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« Reply #13893 on: January 11, 2019, 07:17:10 PM »
Why were the majority of Senate Democrats (including Obama and HRC) all for increasing border security in 2006...but are so militarily opposed to the idea in 2018?

What changed?

I don't know. Why don't you tell us?

Trump was offered a continuing resolution of what he got last year, which including more than a billion for border security, including fencing of the type approved in 2006.

He was all set to accept the same (it passed the Senate FFS a month ago) until Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh started to say mean things about him.

He is the one who then chose to stake his presidency on this one issue. Now he is a hole, with the only way out the "national emergency" charade, where he will rob money set aside for recovery in Puerto Rico and California to pay for his grand monument. And never mind the small matter of hundreds of thousands of families of federal workers and contractors across the country (of which mine is one) who now have to make alternate arrangements with the banks and creditors to cover missing pay cheques and due mortgage and other payments. But then again not paying people was never something that cost Trump a moment's thought.

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« Reply #13894 on: January 11, 2019, 07:23:09 PM »
Why were the majority of Senate Democrats (including Obama and HRC) all for increasing border security in 2006...but are so militarily opposed to the idea in 2018?

What changed?

I don't know. Why don't you tell us?

Trump was offered a continuing resolution of what he got last year, which including more than a billion for border security, including fencing of the type approved in 2006.

He was all set to accept the same (it passed the Senate FFS a month ago) until Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh started to say mean things about him.

He is the one who then chose to stake his presidency on this one issue. Now he is a hole, with the only way out the "national emergency" charade, where he will rob money set aside for recovery in Puerto Rico and California to pay for his grand monument. And never mind the small matter of hundreds of thousands of families of federal workers and contractors across the country (of which mine is one) who now have to make alternate arrangements with the banks and creditors to cover missing pay cheques and due mortgage and other payments. But then again not paying people was never something that cost Trump a moment's thought.

Then just give him the money to build the wall. Compare to the billions that will be squandered in the future policing looking after all these illegals this is a bargain price.
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« Reply #13895 on: January 11, 2019, 07:59:12 PM »
Why were the majority of Senate Democrats (including Obama and HRC) all for increasing border security in 2006...but are so militarily opposed to the idea in 2018?

What changed?

I don't know. Why don't you tell us?

Trump was offered a continuing resolution of what he got last year, which including more than a billion for border security, including fencing of the type approved in 2006.

He was all set to accept the same (it passed the Senate FFS a month ago) until Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh started to say mean things about him.

He is the one who then chose to stake his presidency on this one issue. Now he is a hole, with the only way out the "national emergency" charade, where he will rob money set aside for recovery in Puerto Rico and California to pay for his grand monument. And never mind the small matter of hundreds of thousands of families of federal workers and contractors across the country (of which mine is one) who now have to make alternate arrangements with the banks and creditors to cover missing pay cheques and due mortgage and other payments. But then again not paying people was never something that cost Trump a moment's thought.

Then just give him the money to build the wall. Compare to the billions that will be squandered in the future policing looking after all these illegals this is a bargain price.

Was he not offered almost all of the 25B in return for DACA and TPS last year until the meanies on the right started bitching?

No, f**k him.

As it stands, the votes are there to reopen the government. Reopen it, then get talking.

Or go his BS “national emergency” route. The shoe will be on the other foot soon enough.

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« Reply #13896 on: January 11, 2019, 08:54:15 PM »
The Trumpbots are deeply afraid of whites becoming a minority in the US.

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« Reply #13897 on: January 11, 2019, 09:40:58 PM »
If there's any justice, Alex Jones will end up penniless, thoroughly humiliated, a national pariah, and go to prison. Maybe he could share a cell with Trump?


https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/US/families-sandy-hook-shooting-victims-win-legal-victory/story?id=60314174

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Six families of victims killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School won a legal victory Friday in their fight against controversial radio and internet personality Alex Jones.

A judge in Connecticut has granted the families’ discovery requests, allowing them access to, among other things, InfoWars’ internal marketing and financial documents.

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The judge’s ruling on discovery gives the plaintiffs access to any communication Jones had about the Newtown massacre and to documents that could point to the inner workings of InfoWars.

The plaintiffs — families of four children and two educators killed in the December 2012 shooting — have said the “deeply painful” lies they’ve accused Jones of pushing have caused them to endure “malicious and cruel abuse” as well as harassment and death threats on social media.

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« Reply #13898 on: January 11, 2019, 10:47:33 PM »
That is just excellent news about Jones!! Total sc**bag!

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« Reply #13899 on: January 12, 2019, 12:14:01 AM »
Hopefully that lowlife will be held accountable for his cruel, callous lies. The world would be a better place without his contributions, deliberately put out there to rile up halfwits, not giving a f**k who he hurts in the process, and hiding behind an “entertainer” label.

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« Reply #13900 on: January 12, 2019, 09:14:06 AM »
The Trumpbots are deeply afraid of whites becoming a minority in the US.

What is it with you and race?!?!

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« Reply #13901 on: January 12, 2019, 01:54:45 PM »
The Trumpbots are deeply afraid of whites becoming a minority in the US.

What is it with you and race?!?!
I note you didn't argue the point, because it's true.

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« Reply #13902 on: January 14, 2019, 03:37:25 AM »
I was unaware eskimos were pouring through the northern border.

More people are going back to Mexico than coming from it, so they’re not exactly pouring this way through the southern border either. This border “crisis” is as manufactured as the ”intolerable situation” for Germans living in the Sudetenland that your friend Adolf warned us about.

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« Reply #13903 on: January 14, 2019, 09:21:46 AM »
The Trumpbots are deeply afraid of whites becoming a minority in the US.

What is it with you and race?!?!
I note you didn't argue the point, because it's true.

It is true though. I’ve argued this point a few times in the past.

Free markets and small government yadada is a stand in for a deeper issue. Hence the growth of the far right in USA and Europe outflanking the establishment because the acceptable right can’t sustain the pretense any longer.

And this little pickle dropped into my news feed the other day much closer to home.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkl1xGTt9Sw

It’s pattern repeated across the West and a small number of real academics are looking at it seriously, the media generally won’t take an honest look at it and governments generally don’t have a clue what to do and slowly but surely we handing everything over to the far right. Imagine a more competent Trump with a more willing government implementing his policies.
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« Reply #13904 on: January 14, 2019, 10:34:02 AM »
Looks like Biden is going for it!

Can he beat Beto or Trump for that matter?? He probably has a fairly good shot at it thank God. I wonder will it affect Bloomberg's decision?!