The Many Faces of US Politics...

[whitey]

"From what I've read, very few people if any will lose their insurance under the new plan.  "

GOP people have been asked about pre existing conditions and keep on repeating an idea about  layers of protection. AND they got 8bn dollars extra.  It sounds like a lot. If you are gullible. But US healthcare costs around 1 in 5 dollars of everything spent in the US.

The whole point of the AHCA is to free up money for a tax cut for Scrooge McDuck. $800 bn

Obviously nobody will lose coverage because there is $8 bn and the GOP promised.

Healthcare is a life or death issue for the GOP now.

If Trump f**ks over the people regarding healthcare I hope he and the GOP lose their collective asses in the upcoming election seasons, I have serious reservations about their commitment to this biggest of issues.

That America is in the awful shape it is in health care wise is testament to the ineptitude and apathy of both parties, Obama aside that is, he got it wrong but at least he tried.

Well the people claiming that tens of millions will lose their coverage under the new plan are exactly the same people who claimed that premiums under Obamacare would DECREASE by $2500.  Theyre also the same people who assured us that of we liked our plan, we could keep our plan.....PERIOD

So pardon the skeptic in me but Im going to wait and see on this one

[foxcommander]

Good to see that all democrats are still delusional about the election, even the one who lost. Way to go Hillary

http://www.smh.com.au/world/hillary-clinton-blames-russian-hackers-comey-for-2016-election-loss-20170502-gvxqva.html

Keep telling yourself you won - if you say it enough times it will become true. Just like eamon and co have been doing the last few months.

[foxcommander]

It's pretty irresponsible of Elizabeth warren and co to come out with such bullshit on twitter. No doubt the morons will totally believe without checking facts.  All she is missing is a comment about dead bodies outside hospitals after being refused treatment and dead babies in skips thanks to trump

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @SenWarren · May 4 
This isn't football. It's not about scoring points. #AHCA will devastate Americans' healthcare. Families will go bankrupt. People will die.

[seafoid]

It's pretty irresponsible of Elizabeth warren and co to come out with such bullshit on twitter. No doubt the morons will totally believe without checking facts.

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @SenWarren · May 4 
This isn't football. It's not about scoring points. #AHCA will devastate Americans' healthcare. Families will go bankrupt. People will die.

It won't even get past the Senate

[foxcommander]

and finally

the hypocrisy of the democrats is unbelievable. Here they go bleating on and on about interference in the US elections from a foreign country and then Obama goes public and endorses a candidate in the French Election.

but that's ok, right?

[heganboy]

Hey Foxy-

just to be clear-are you saying you can't tell the difference between:

1) a former politician in one country making a video urging people in a different country publicly to vote one way

2) a report from the US's Office of the Director of National Intelligence which said and I quote

Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections
ICA 2017-01D 6 January 2017
Key Judgments
Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow's longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.
We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.
 We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
 Moscow's approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia's understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.
 Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.
Moscow's influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or "trolls." Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.
 Russia's intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
 We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data
ii
     This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment; its conclusions are identical to those in the highly classified assessment but this version does not include the full supporting information on key elements of the influence campaign.
     obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
 Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.
 Russia's state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.
We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

[omochain]

and finally

the hypocrisy of the democrats is unbelievable. Here they go bleating on and on about interference in the US elections from a foreign country and then Obama goes public and endorses a candidate in the French Election.

but that's ok, right?

Foxy ... the jury is still out with me?
Are you cozy bear or Fozzie Bear?
I hope you opt for being a Muppet😜

[easytiger95]

It's pretty irresponsible of Elizabeth warren and co to come out with such bullshit on twitter. No doubt the morons will totally believe without checking facts.  All she is missing is a comment about dead bodies outside hospitals after being refused treatment and dead babies in skips thanks to trump

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @SenWarren · May 4 
This isn't football. It's not about scoring points. #AHCA will devastate Americans' healthcare. Families will go bankrupt. People will die.

The previous incarnation of the ACHA was scored by the CBO as putting 24 million people out of healthcare coverage. That is a fact.

Within that scoring was an additional saving of 3 billion dollars for social security. That is a fact.

The additional saving was explained by the CBO as being the result of less people reaching the age where they would receive mandatory healthcare. They would die early, for lack of access to affordable healthcare. That is a fact.

The current incarnation of ACHA, which was approved by the House, loosens regulations further than the original version, and gives the states a waiver to opt out of the ACA. That is a fact.

In fact, the only area where there might be some debate is whether you are a moron, or just a lying trolling w**ker.

[seafoid]

and finally

the hypocrisy of the democrats is unbelievable. Here they go bleating on and on about interference in the US elections from a foreign country and then Obama goes public and endorses a candidate in the French Election.

but that's ok, right?

Foxy ... the jury is still out with me?
Are you cozy bear or Fozzie Bear?
I hope you opt for being a Muppet😜

The Foxy quote  is a keeper

. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwm5bxiHQO8

[J70]

and finally

the hypocrisy of the democrats is unbelievable. Here they go bleating on and on about interference in the US elections from a foreign country and then Obama goes public and endorses a candidate in the French Election.

but that's ok, right?

Publicly endorsing a candidate = unleashing your minions to dig up and slowly release embarrassing information and emails from one side only.

Gotcha.

[J70]

It's pretty irresponsible of Elizabeth warren and co to come out with such bullshit on twitter. No doubt the morons will totally believe without checking facts.  All she is missing is a comment about dead bodies outside hospitals after being refused treatment and dead babies in skips thanks to trump

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @SenWarren · May 4 
This isn't football. It's not about scoring points. #AHCA will devastate Americans' healthcare. Families will go bankrupt. People will die.

Did she talk about "death panels"?

[seafoid]

Maddow on Sally Yates and Flynn. Very murky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTFQNZMEM0k

[whitey]

Maddow on Sally Yates and Flynn. Very murky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTFQNZMEM0k

Rachel Maddow is half a step removed from the National Enquirer



https://youtu.be/9xAUiaMpJvc

[foxcommander]

and finally

the hypocrisy of the democrats is unbelievable. Here they go bleating on and on about interference in the US elections from a foreign country and then Obama goes public and endorses a candidate in the French Election.

but that's ok, right?

Publicly endorsing a candidate = unleashing your minions to dig up and slowly release embarrassing information and emails from one side only.

Gotcha.

There's no such thing as "good" interference and "bad" interference. Obama purposely waded into foreign election with the intention of using his profile to endorse a candidate. How is that any different to what democrats claim (and again, Obama is the only one who is proven to have interfered in an election) Russia did in the US election? Seriously. Your explanation doesn't quite work.

The democrats will obviously fail to grasp reality yet again and there's more than a stink of hypocrisy coming from their side.

[foxcommander]

Maddow on Sally Yates and Flynn. Very murky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTFQNZMEM0k

Rachel Maddow is half a step removed from the National Enquirer



https://youtu.be/9xAUiaMpJvc

She is unhinged. Definitely a ten pinter. Still regularly watch footage of her on election night for a giggle. Classic TV.


Just for you lovely democrats to save you a google search...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0TaegQ-kw