The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Gabriel_Hurl

But ..... Hillary's emails?!?!?!?!!!!!

seafoid

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/02/06/the-age-of-total-lies/

The welfare state was destroyed by globalization, de-industrialization, and the growing domination of corporations and the financial sector. Left-wing parties and left-wing criticism of capitalism is almost gone; the leftists have sided with neoliberalism, unions have been weakened or destroyed. Even when the banks collapsed in 2008, nothing changed. Taking over the problems of immigration and terrorism, right-wing politicians promised to "protect" citizens by spreading xenophobia, fear, and nationalism. They have risen to power by presenting themselves as the guardians of an abandoned working class, making appeals to nationalism and patriotic selfishness, and promising to kick the immigrants out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xecEV4dSAXE

seafoid

Quote from: DrinkingHarp on February 14, 2017, 04:18:32 AM
Michael Flynn resigns from his National Security Adviser position on day 24 of Trump Presidency.
Spicer will probably be next.

DrinkingHarp

Quote from: seafoid on February 14, 2017, 07:32:13 AM
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on February 14, 2017, 04:18:32 AM
Michael Flynn resigns from his National Security Adviser position on day 24 of Trump Presidency.
Spicer will probably be next.

God I hope not. I love watching Spicer and Kelly Anne squeam on TV. They sit there and lie directly to the world. Those two are the only thing about this presidency I like, plus I would miss Melissa McCarthy on SNL.

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seafoid

Quote from: DrinkingHarp on February 14, 2017, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 14, 2017, 07:32:13 AM
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on February 14, 2017, 04:18:32 AM
Michael Flynn resigns from his National Security Adviser position on day 24 of Trump Presidency.
Spicer will probably be next.

God I hope not. I love watching Spicer and Kelly Anne squeam on TV. They sit there and lie directly to the world. Those two are the only thing about this presidency I like, plus I would miss Melissa McCarthy on SNL.
They are incompetent rather than evil. If it was Nuremberg they wouldn't be executed . Bannon and Miller would be.



J70

Quote from: DrinkingHarp on February 14, 2017, 04:18:32 AM
Michael Flynn resigns from his National Security Adviser position on day 24 of Trump Presidency.

Shouldn't a man with his experience known that Russian diplomats are wire tapped?!

Shouldn't that type of illegal, treasonous skullduggery taken place on some poorly lit park bench?

seafoid

Quote from: J70 on February 14, 2017, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 14, 2017, 10:24:55 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/13/trump-ran-a-campaign-based-on-intelligence-security-thats-not-how-hes-governing/

But...but... emails!

From the link


"The problem is that Trump's Android phone would be very simple to hack to provide precisely the sort of access described above. NPR dug into the question of how secure that phone might be, and Berkeley computer scientist Nicholas Weaver was blunt.
"Donald Trump for the longest time has been using a insecure Android phone that by all reports is so easy to compromise, it would not meet the security requirements of a teenager," Weaver told NPR, and while he couldn't say for sure, "we must assume that his phone has actively been compromised for a while, and an actively compromised phone is literally a listening device."
That's just one of the phones that may have been at the table for the conversation.
The picture that's painted is one that runs contrary to the arguments Trump made on the campaign trail. While running for the presidency, cybersecurity and the risk of compromise were cardinal sins, necessitating that he be given the most powerful position in America. Now that he's attained that position, though, his attitude toward security seems a bit more lax."

Trump is the Gonzo Prez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AWhwuPkTcg

And a muppet

easytiger95

I'm actually feeling quite hopeful this morning...whilst I would have argued that Trump would love to be a neofascist strongman type, I was always banking on him being too incompetent to pull it off.

This is now being borne out, accelerated by the intelligence community flexing their muscles and killing off Flynn. Trump has dealt with plenty of Mafia wiseguys during his NY real estate days and even he should recognize the Flynn demise for what it is - dead haddock wrapped in newspaper direct from Langley, telling him that next time, he'll be the one sleeping with the fishes.

Given that Republican senators are now letting it be known that they have concerns about his mental state, the incredible reaction the Miller interviews have gotten, and the hassle Republicans are getting at townhalls up and down the country, I would be checking with Paddy Power the odds of him making the midterms.

Also the House Freedom Caucus are now saying they will table a bill to repeal Obamacare without a replacement, in a bid to tie the Democrats into talks on what the eventual replacement will be (which shows how stupid they are, no Democrat, even the Manchins and Heitkamps will touch the GOP on Obamacare, even if they wanted to, given the anger out there now) and there's a really good chance the GOP will finally strike the match after pouring the petrol (supplied by fossil fuel lobbyists) over their own heads.




Add to that the joy of seeing his supporters contort themselves more and more to justify their vote - but, but, emails? Thanks Obama

seafoid

Quote from: easytiger95 on February 14, 2017, 12:19:32 PM
I'm actually feeling quite hopeful this morning...whilst I would have argued that Trump would love to be a neofascist strongman type, I was always banking on him being too incompetent to pull it off.

This is now being borne out, accelerated by the intelligence community flexing their muscles and killing off Flynn. Trump has dealt with plenty of Mafia wiseguys during his NY real estate days and even he should recognize the Flynn demise for what it is - dead haddock wrapped in newspaper direct from Langley, telling him that next time, he'll be the one sleeping with the fishes.

Given that Republican senators are now letting it be known that they have concerns about his mental state, the incredible reaction the Miller interviews have gotten, and the hassle Republicans are getting at townhalls up and down the country, I would be checking with Paddy Power the odds of him making the midterms.

Also the House Freedom Caucus are now saying they will table a bill to repeal Obamacare without a replacement, in a bid to tie the Democrats into talks on what the eventual replacement will be (which shows how stupid they are, no Democrat, even the Manchins and Heitkamps will touch the GOP on Obamacare, even if they wanted to, given the anger out there now) and there's a really good chance the GOP will finally strike the match after pouring the petrol (supplied by fossil fuel lobbyists) over their own heads.
Add to that the joy of seeing his supporters contort themselves more and more to justify their vote - but, but, emails? Thanks Obama

There is a lot of resistance to Trump but at the end of the day it's the same small group of plutocrats calling the shots

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/02/08/the-new-resistance-against-trump/

Today, defiance of Trump's order includes a multitude of politicians, bureaucrats, judges, and citizens. The mayors of the country's largest cities have led the opposition. Mayors have their own executive power. They make and enforce municipal laws, and preside over extensive infrastructure, housing issues, public employees and budgets. They also appoint police chiefs, and an impressive number have made it clear that they will not allow their law enforcement officers to comply with any future federal order to harass or round up undocumented immigrants for deportation. Speaking in support of protesters at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport on January 28, Dallas mayor Mike Rawlings called Trump's immigration ban "a foul insult to the rest of the country." In a pained incredulous voice, he added, "Dallas is not this sort of city.
During the weekend following the ban, protests erupted in Atlanta, Chicago, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, D.C., Minneapolis, San Francisco, Denver, Houston, Detroit, Los Angeles—thirty cities in all. Mayors Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles and Ed Murray of Seattle have the support of their governors in standing up for their immigrants, but opposition to Trump's order from Megan Barry of Nashville and Greg Fischer of Louisville, Democratic mayors in staunchly Republican states, shows the stark political split between municipalities and the suburbs and rural districts that surround them. In Minneapolis a protester dragged a cross on her back with the words, "Jesus Was A Refugee," and a significant number of Christian groups have condemned the ban.
Members of Congress report that their phone lines have been jammed with calls. And not only about the immigration ban: in record numbers citizens have been pushing elected officials to stand up to threats to the nation's public school system posed by the new education secretary, threats to the environment from Trump's climate-change-denying EPA nominee, the administration's plans to dismantle the civil rights division at the Justice Department, repeal the Affordable Care Act, and declaw the regulations of the Dodd-Frank Act that were put into place after the 2008 financial crash. A man told me he'd dialed Senator Schumer's office ninety-two times without reaching an actual person. He wanted to tell Schumer to stop voting for the confirmation of Trump's cabinet nominees. "I finally gave up and joined a group of people shouting outside the senator's apartment building on Eastern Parkway instead."
There's little doubt that the popular outcry has emboldened public officials to take action. Acting Attorney General Sally Yates's announcement on January 30 that she would instruct Justice Department lawyers not to argue in favor of Trump's order because it targeted Muslims seemed at least in part to be inspired by the protests. (Yates, an Obama appointee, was fired hours after she made the announcement.) The same appeared to be true of the hundred State Department employees who signed a Memo of Dissent over the order on the grounds that denying visas "to over 200 million legitimate travelers" would undermine international alliances and "not achieve its aim of making our country safer." A day after Trump's press secretary, Sean Spicer, invited the dissenting employees to get with the program or "get out," nine hundred more signed the memo, bringing the total to one thousand. It was remarkable to see career diplomats, a group not known for its boldness, willing to be sacked or blackballed within their department in order to publically express their concerns.




Greg Gilbert/The Seattle Times/AP Images

Mayor Ed Murray criticizing Trump's immigration order, Seattle, Washington, January 28, 2016
Demonstrators had gathered within earshot of a federal judge's courtroom in Brooklyn on January 28 when she issued the first stay to Trump's order. Within twenty-four hours, three more judges made similar rulings. Five days later, after a judge in Boston upheld parts of the president's order, a judge in Seattle, James Robart, who had been appointed by President George W. Bush, signed the most sweeping ruling against it yet. The plaintiff's brief was presented not by the ACLU but by the state's solicitor general, with the blessing of Washington's governor Jay Inslee. (The state of Minnesota later added its name to the brief, and fifteen states filed a supporting brief maintaining that the ban would harm their local economies and institutions.)
In a historical somersault, the federalist assertion of state rights—for decades the constitutional tool of segregationists and social conservatives—was now being invoked by the left to protect itself against an over-reaching president. Washington state, the solicitor general argued, would be hurt in the form of lost taxes, employment, and families in distress if lawful visa holders and returning residents were to be barred. "Federal courts have no more sacred role than protecting marginalized groups against irrational, discriminatory conduct," the brief said. Judge Robart agreed, adding that the president's order had failed to show that the banned travelers posed a threat to the country.
On Tuesday afternoon, the case went before the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco, which had received an Amicus brief against the ban from nearly 130 tech companies, among them Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Uber, and Tesla. A ruling will probably be rendered before the end of the week, but the case, which essentially revolves around the question of whether the president has the power to arbitrarily change the country's border policies regardless of the damage it may cause, appears to be headed to the Supreme Court.
This is the first of what will surely be a number of critical confrontations between the Trump administration and the other branches of government. A lot of damage will be done by this president. But the range of opposing forces taking shape shows signs of being effective. Hundreds of thousands of people have already pledged support for a scientists' march on Washington on April 22, Earth Day. More demonstrations are likely to materialize.
The streets and public spaces of the country's cities are where protesters are most seen and heard. Mayors, and in many cases governors, seem to be telling their citizens, in a way rarely, if ever, seen in our recent history, that the public spaces are theirs. It appears to be a potent alliance. At least for now.          

screenexile

#8111
The nutters are very notable by their absence at the minute . . .

Are we still to keep giving Trump a chance?? Do we stop at the 9th or 10th??

If the Supreme Court turn down the Muslim ban it will be open season on him!!

whitey


whitey

#8113
Quote from: screenexile on February 14, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
The butters are very notable by their absence at the minute . . .

Are we still to keep giving Trump a chance?? Do we stop at the 9th or 10th??

If the Supreme Court turn down the Muslim ban it will be open season on him!!

If Flynn broke the law or set protocol he should be fired....end of.

Trump ran on a "drain the swamp" platform and he needs to put his money where his mouth is.

This rap on the knuckles may be good in the long term. I'm not at all surprised that a political outsider has had several mid-steps

And actually Pence is looking very good out of all this

foxcommander

Quote from: screenexile on February 14, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
The butters are very notable by their absence at the minute . . .

Are we still to keep giving Trump a chance?? Do we stop at the 9th or 10th??

If the Supreme Court turn down the Muslim ban it will be open season on him!!

A muslim ban would mean that no muslim people can enter the USA. Can you confirm this is the case?
Alternative facts eh? The hysteria continues from liberals.


Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie