The Many Faces of US Politics...

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AZOffaly

Quote from: J70 on January 26, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2017, 01:13:51 AM
Quote from: Hardy on January 26, 2017, 12:43:32 AM
Newsnight reporting tonight that executive orders are on the way this week revoking some international treaties (climate change suspected to be one) and cutting US funding to UN programmes by 40%.

Idiocracy in action.

That was a crazy stunt pulled by Obama and the UN against Israel.... most Trump supporters I know are vehemently anti UN and will applaud any move to defund it

It was about time the US stood up to Israel, for as much as it was worth. The c***ts are pushing on regardless, full steam ahead, with the land stealing and settlement building.

Why are your Trump supporting friends so anti-UN?

I was very disappointed in Obama for that. That move was a bit gutless. Why wait until 2 weeks before you're leaving? If he was serious, that resolution, and real action, would have been taken 4-6 years ago. Tokenism of the highest order.


sid waddell

Quote from: seafoid on January 26, 2017, 11:03:04 AM
http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.767507

"He is damaging his own credibility, eliciting new doubts among Republicans who had assumed that once in office, he would calm and settle down. Some American commentators go so far as to maintain that the damage Trump is inflicting now on his presidency is so severe that it may never truly recover."
"The mistake of Trump's opponents was to take him literally but not seriously."

You're supposed to take him seriously but not literally..."

Oh, wait.




J70

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 26, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2017, 01:13:51 AM
Quote from: Hardy on January 26, 2017, 12:43:32 AM
Newsnight reporting tonight that executive orders are on the way this week revoking some international treaties (climate change suspected to be one) and cutting US funding to UN programmes by 40%.

Idiocracy in action.

That was a crazy stunt pulled by Obama and the UN against Israel.... most Trump supporters I know are vehemently anti UN and will applaud any move to defund it

It was about time the US stood up to Israel, for as much as it was worth. The c***ts are pushing on regardless, full steam ahead, with the land stealing and settlement building.

Why are your Trump supporting friends so anti-UN?

I was very disappointed in Obama for that. That move was a bit gutless. Why wait until 2 weeks before you're leaving? If he was serious, that resolution, and real action, would have been taken 4-6 years ago. Tokenism of the highest order.

The timing was disappointing, yes, especially when he kept the money flowing for all those years amidst the behaviour of Netanyahu.

But, it was satisfying to see a US president finally stand up to the pricks.

seafoid

Quote from: J70 on January 26, 2017, 11:27:51 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 26, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2017, 01:13:51 AM
Quote from: Hardy on January 26, 2017, 12:43:32 AM
Newsnight reporting tonight that executive orders are on the way this week revoking some international treaties (climate change suspected to be one) and cutting US funding to UN programmes by 40%.

Idiocracy in action.

That was a crazy stunt pulled by Obama and the UN against Israel.... most Trump supporters I know are vehemently anti UN and will applaud any move to defund it

It was about time the US stood up to Israel, for as much as it was worth. The c***ts are pushing on regardless, full steam ahead, with the land stealing and settlement building.

Why are your Trump supporting friends so anti-UN?

I was very disappointed in Obama for that. That move was a bit gutless. Why wait until 2 weeks before you're leaving? If he was serious, that resolution, and real action, would have been taken 4-6 years ago. Tokenism of the highest order.

The timing was disappointing, yes, especially when he kept the money flowing for all those years amidst the behaviour of Netanyahu.

But, it was satisfying to see a US president finally stand up to the pricks.
Clinton waited until the end of his presidency to address Israel too. The Zionist lobby is too powerful to face down during business as usual.

seafoid

Trump is turning into a liability for people like Ian O Doherty in the Indo.

AZOffaly

Quote from: seafoid on January 26, 2017, 11:40:04 AM
Trump is turning into a liability for people like Ian O Doherty in the Indo.

Ian O'Doherty is a liability. That 5 a side shite in Gort or wherever it was, when he had to live with Muslims for a couple of days,  where they told him he was too fat and he sulked off was priceless.

J70

Quote from: stew on January 26, 2017, 09:13:51 AM
Quote from: omochain on January 26, 2017, 04:03:07 AM
Trump is just setting the stage for the GOP to launch more voter suppression Laws. All under the guise of defense of the electoral system.

Tell me, did the democrats not suppress the votes of the Saunders voters?

Why is it the democrats do not want drivers licenses as proof of identification for voters?

Fair point on how Sanders was treated.

However, that does not negate the widespread attempts by the GOP to target minority participation in elections. Some of them are on record as acknowledging that the reason they're doing it IS to suppress that vote. Why else would you shut down Sunday voting except to make it more difficult for "Souls to the Polls" and other such efforts?  Why are the vast majority of people targeted by GOP operations such as Crosscheck minorities? Drivers licenses, which not everyone can get, regardless of status, is the least of it.


Denn Forever

The markets like him Dow over 20,000.  He'll win big or it's 2007 all over again.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Declan


sid waddell

Quote from: seafoid on January 26, 2017, 11:40:04 AM
Trump is turning into a liability for people like Ian O Doherty in the Indo.
I trust, with the rise of the torture-loving Tiny Hands to the US presidency, Ian has been feeling a lot better about himself lately and no longer feels the need to denigrate somebody who disagrees with him by calling them a "ferocious nonce" and a "rampant pedo" (sic)?


J70

Quote from: Denn Forever on January 26, 2017, 12:00:28 PM
The markets like him Dow over 20,000.  He'll win big or it's 2007 all over again.

http://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

It looks pretty much like a continuation of the same overall upward trend since 2009.

It plateaued for a few months during the summer-autumn general election campaign. I guess investors like to wait and see. And for now, he's talking about less regs and taxes. Let's see what happens if he starts the trade wars.

Declan

Is this unusual or standard practice in terms of new administrations?

US State department's entire senior management team quits as Secretary Rex Tillerson takes up post

The move was part of an exit of officials who do not want to work under Donald Trump
Andrew Buncombe New York |

The entire senior level of management officials at the US State department has resigned - rather than serve under President Donald Trump.

In the latest display of disquiet among civil servants in Washington over the new commander-in-chief, the four top senior officials at the equivalent of America's foreign ministry, announced they were standing down.

The new Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, was present in the department's offices in the Foggy Bottom neighborhood of Washington DC, when the officials resigned on Wednesday, the Washington Post reported.

The officials were Patrick Kennedy, Under Secretary of State for Management, Assistant Secretary of State for Administration Joyce Anne Barr, Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Ambassador Gentry Smith, director of the Office of Foreign Missions. All four of the officials served under both Democratic and Republican administrations.

The state department officials join a growing number of civil servants who have left since Mr Trump took office on January 20.

Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security Gregory Starr, and director of the Bureau of Overseas Building Operations Lydia Muniz left last Friday.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: stew on January 26, 2017, 09:13:51 AM
Why is it the democrats do not want drivers licenses as proof of identification for voters?

Because "voter fraud" is as good as non-existent, and voter suppression laws are blatant conservative efforts to block blacks and other minorities from voting.

J70

Quote from: Declan on January 26, 2017, 05:35:01 PM
Is this unusual or standard practice in terms of new administrations?

US State department's entire senior management team quits as Secretary Rex Tillerson takes up post

The move was part of an exit of officials who do not want to work under Donald Trump
Andrew Buncombe New York |

The entire senior level of management officials at the US State department has resigned - rather than serve under President Donald Trump.

In the latest display of disquiet among civil servants in Washington over the new commander-in-chief, the four top senior officials at the equivalent of America's foreign ministry, announced they were standing down.

The new Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, was present in the department's offices in the Foggy Bottom neighborhood of Washington DC, when the officials resigned on Wednesday, the Washington Post reported.

The officials were Patrick Kennedy, Under Secretary of State for Management, Assistant Secretary of State for Administration Joyce Anne Barr, Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Ambassador Gentry Smith, director of the Office of Foreign Missions. All four of the officials served under both Democratic and Republican administrations.

The state department officials join a growing number of civil servants who have left since Mr Trump took office on January 20.

Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security Gregory Starr, and director of the Bureau of Overseas Building Operations Lydia Muniz left last Friday.

I think its very unusual for non-political, career civil servants to quit, especially en masse.