The Many Faces of US Politics...

[whitey]

You're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen

I gave you a quote from The NY Times (not Fox News) stating that warning sign were missed with the San Bernardino shooters wife and you still are blabbling on about "easy soundbites" targeting Muslims.

Democrats need to get their heads out of their arses big time.....they're primed to get demolished at the midterms if Trump does well (and I grudgingly admit he will do okay....call him
What you want, but he's not stupid)

[J70]

Don't believe me if you don't want

Ill paraphrase that's guy they interviewed in the article. ..."people are sick and tired of being talked down to".


While I accept that may not be your individual experience, it has been the experience of many blue collar Democrats who may be somewhat socially conservative and they gave their response at the polls this past Tuesday and that's why Trump is in the White House

But I'm not talking about their perception.

I'm talking about reality and whether their perception is objectively legitimate.

To use an extreme example for illustration, is the average KKK member or Islamic jihadist owed some recognition and legitimization by the political system?

[whitey]

Don't believe me if you don't want

Ill paraphrase that's guy they interviewed in the article. ..."people are sick and tired of being talked down to".


While I accept that may not be your individual experience, it has been the experience of many blue collar Democrats who may be somewhat socially conservative and they gave their response at the polls this past Tuesday and that's why Trump is in the White House

But I'm not talking about their perception.

I'm talking about reality and whether their perception is objectively legitimate.

To use an extreme example for illustration, is the average KKK member or Islamic jihadist owed some recognition and legitimization by the political system?

Lolololol

But who's to decide "if their perception is objectively legitimate"?

You may not view their concerns as objectively legitimate, The NY Times and CNN may not view their concerns as objectively legitimate, the people from Georgetown and the Upper West Side may not view their perceptions as objectively legitimate, but THEY sure as $hit view them as objectively legitimate

[muppet]

You're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen

I gave you a quote from The NY Times (not Fox News) stating that warning sign were missed with the San Bernardino shooters wife and you still are blabbling on about "easy soundbites" targeting Muslims.

Democrats need to get their heads out of their arses big time.....they're primed to get demolished at the midterms if Trump does well (and I grudgingly admit he will do okay....call him
What you want, but he's not stupid)

You posted the quote and mentioned nothing about warning signs, just that she was the 'instigator'.

I read the article and it seems to blame the lack of a check of social media posts. Is that your solution? More checking of social media posts?

The 911 bombers were trained in the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/23/fbi-knew-terrorists-were-using-flight-schools/377177b0-b632-429f-9a15-393c2256c2b4/

People with 'known links to Bin Laden', who was behind the WTC bombing in 1993, were allowed to do their flight training in the US. They were known to authorities but nothing was done.

You can vet all you like, but you need resources and the right people doing the vetting otherwise you get the above ridiculous situations.

[muppet]

http://cogink.com/cleese/

A LETTER TO THE US





FROM JOHN CLEESE



To the citizens of the United States of America, in light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II resumes monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Theresa May, MP for the 97.8% of you who have, until now, been unaware there's a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America. Congress and the Senate are disbanded. A questionnaire circulated next year will determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid your transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. Look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Check "aluminium" in the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you pronounce it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour'. Likewise you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary." Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed." There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you should not have chat shows.

2. There is no such thing as "US English." We'll let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u'.

3. You should learn to distinguish English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). Scottish dramas such as 'Taggart' will no longer be broadcast with subtitles.You must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon." If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1.

5. You should stop playing American "football." There's only one kind of football. What you call American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.1% of you aware there is a world outside your borders may have noticed no one else plays "American" football. You should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every two seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies) You should stop playing baseball. It's not reasonable to host event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders," which is baseball without fancy team stripe, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

6. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns, or anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because you are not sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you need a permit to carry a vegetable peeler.

7. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday. It will be called "Indecisive Day."

8. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left. At the same time, you will go metric without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

9. Learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't French, they're Belgian though 97.8% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat.

10. The cold tasteless stuff you call beer is actually lager. Only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer." Substances once known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," except for the product of the American Budweiser company which will be called "Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine." This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

11. The UK will harmonise petrol prices (or "Gasoline," as you will be permitted to keep calling it) for those of the former USA, adopting UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon, get used to it).

12. Learn to resolve personal issues without guns, lawyers or therapists. That you need many lawyers and therapists shows you're not adult enough to be independent. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

13. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

14. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your co-operation.

* John Cleese [Basil Fawlty, Fawlty Towers, Sir Lancelot of Camelot (Monty Python & The Quest for the Holy Grail), Torquay, Devon, England]

[whitey]

You're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen

I gave you a quote from The NY Times (not Fox News) stating that warning sign were missed with the San Bernardino shooters wife and you still are blabbling on about "easy soundbites" targeting Muslims.

Democrats need to get their heads out of their arses big time.....they're primed to get demolished at the midterms if Trump does well (and I grudgingly admit he will do okay....call him
What you want, but he's not stupid)

You posted the quote and mentioned nothing about warning signs, just that she was the 'instigator'.

I read the article and it seems to blame the lack of a check of social media posts. Is that your solution? More checking of social media posts?

The 911 bombers were trained in the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/23/fbi-knew-terrorists-were-using-flight-schools/377177b0-b632-429f-9a15-393c2256c2b4/

People with 'known links to Bin Laden', who was behind the WTC bombing in 1993, were allowed to do their flight training in the US. They were known to authorities but nothing was done.

You can vet all you like, but you need resources and the right people doing the vetting otherwise you get the above ridiculous situations.

Saying we need to do a better job vetting people is not rascist or Islamophobic, but it could be twisted into that by people pursuing an uber PC agenda?

[muppet]

You're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen

I gave you a quote from The NY Times (not Fox News) stating that warning sign were missed with the San Bernardino shooters wife and you still are blabbling on about "easy soundbites" targeting Muslims.

Democrats need to get their heads out of their arses big time.....they're primed to get demolished at the midterms if Trump does well (and I grudgingly admit he will do okay....call him
What you want, but he's not stupid)

You posted the quote and mentioned nothing about warning signs, just that she was the 'instigator'.

I read the article and it seems to blame the lack of a check of social media posts. Is that your solution? More checking of social media posts?

The 911 bombers were trained in the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/23/fbi-knew-terrorists-were-using-flight-schools/377177b0-b632-429f-9a15-393c2256c2b4/

People with 'known links to Bin Laden', who was behind the WTC bombing in 1993, were allowed to do their flight training in the US. They were known to authorities but nothing was done.

You can vet all you like, but you need resources and the right people doing the vetting otherwise you get the above ridiculous situations.

Saying we need to do a better job vetting people is not rascist or Islamophobic, but it could be twisted into that by people pursuing an uber PC agenda?

If you have information that a bunch of men known to be associates of Osama Bin Laden, doing flight training in the US, but uniquely not taking lessons in take-off or landing, then it is probably a good idea to investigate.

I haven't mentioned religion or race. Your need to be outraged is polluting your head.

[whitey]

You're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen

I gave you a quote from The NY Times (not Fox News) stating that warning sign were missed with the San Bernardino shooters wife and you still are blabbling on about "easy soundbites" targeting Muslims.

Democrats need to get their heads out of their arses big time.....they're primed to get demolished at the midterms if Trump does well (and I grudgingly admit he will do okay....call him
What you want, but he's not stupid)

You posted the quote and mentioned nothing about warning signs, just that she was the 'instigator'.

I read the article and it seems to blame the lack of a check of social media posts. Is that your solution? More checking of social media posts?

The 911 bombers were trained in the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/23/fbi-knew-terrorists-were-using-flight-schools/377177b0-b632-429f-9a15-393c2256c2b4/

People with 'known links to Bin Laden', who was behind the WTC bombing in 1993, were allowed to do their flight training in the US. They were known to authorities but nothing was done.

You can vet all you like, but you need resources and the right people doing the vetting otherwise you get the above ridiculous situations.

Saying we need to do a better job vetting people is not rascist or Islamophobic, but it could be twisted into that by people pursuing an uber PC agenda?

If you have information that a bunch of men known to be associates of Osama Bin Laden, doing flight training in the US, but uniquely not taking lessons in take-off or landing, then it is probably a good idea to investigate.

I haven't mentioned religion or race. Your need to be outraged is polluting your head.

And thats exactly the same sneering, dismissive, "I know better than you " attitude that lost both the White House and the Supreme Court for the Democrats

[muppet]

You're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen

I gave you a quote from The NY Times (not Fox News) stating that warning sign were missed with the San Bernardino shooters wife and you still are blabbling on about "easy soundbites" targeting Muslims.

Democrats need to get their heads out of their arses big time.....they're primed to get demolished at the midterms if Trump does well (and I grudgingly admit he will do okay....call him
What you want, but he's not stupid)

You posted the quote and mentioned nothing about warning signs, just that she was the 'instigator'.

I read the article and it seems to blame the lack of a check of social media posts. Is that your solution? More checking of social media posts?

The 911 bombers were trained in the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/23/fbi-knew-terrorists-were-using-flight-schools/377177b0-b632-429f-9a15-393c2256c2b4/

People with 'known links to Bin Laden', who was behind the WTC bombing in 1993, were allowed to do their flight training in the US. They were known to authorities but nothing was done.

You can vet all you like, but you need resources and the right people doing the vetting otherwise you get the above ridiculous situations.

Saying we need to do a better job vetting people is not rascist or Islamophobic, but it could be twisted into that by people pursuing an uber PC agenda?

If you have information that a bunch of men known to be associates of Osama Bin Laden, doing flight training in the US, but uniquely not taking lessons in take-off or landing, then it is probably a good idea to investigate.

I haven't mentioned religion or race. Your need to be outraged is polluting your head.

And thats exactly the same sneering, dismissive, "I know better than you " attitude that lost both the White House and the Supreme Court for the Democrats

'I know netter than you'. 

"you're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen"

But its ok when you do it.

[whitey]

Dems didnt listen to their constituents, youre not listening to them, the DNC didnt listen to them, J70 isnt listening to them......if Trump does well, these people may be permanently lost to the Democratic Party

[muppet]

Dems didnt listen to their constituents, youre not listening to them, the DNC didnt listen to them, J70 isnt listening to them......if Trump does well, these people may be permanently lost to the Democratic Party

Don't make me laugh.

Trump isn't even listening any more. Why would he, the election is over and they fell for it?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-election-muslim-ban-immigrants-website-statement-removed-a7408466.html

What he might do though, is incarcerate many of them. And Mexicans too. You pointed out that prisons sticks rose after he won. There is a very good reason for that. It makes some very rich people richer.

[seafoid]

Dems didnt listen to their constituents, youre not listening to them, the DNC didnt listen to them, J70 isnt listening to them......if Trump does well, these people may be permanently lost to the Democratic Party

The election was more or less 50/50
Trump had better bots

[seafoid]

Dems didnt listen to their constituents, youre not listening to them, the DNC didnt listen to them, J70 isnt listening to them......if Trump does well, these people may be permanently lost to the Democratic Party

Don't make me laugh.

Trump isn't even listening any more. Why would he, the election is over and they fell for it?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-election-muslim-ban-immigrants-website-statement-removed-a7408466.html

What he might do though, is incarcerate many of them. And Mexicans too. You pointed out that prisons sticks rose after he won. There is a very good reason for that. It makes some very rich people richer.

Trump sold a fraud
Same as Brexit

Control/Make America great and you get a cabal of right wing extremists

He will be as successful as Bojo.

[seafoid]

You're still not listening, the same way they didn't listen

I gave you a quote from The NY Times (not Fox News) stating that warning sign were missed with the San Bernardino shooters wife and you still are blabbling on about "easy soundbites" targeting Muslims.

Democrats need to get their heads out of their arses big time.....they're primed to get demolished at the midterms if Trump does well (and I grudgingly admit he will do okay....call him
What you want, but he's not stupid)

You posted the quote and mentioned nothing about warning signs, just that she was the 'instigator'.

I read the article and it seems to blame the lack of a check of social media posts. Is that your solution? More checking of social media posts?

The 911 bombers were trained in the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/23/fbi-knew-terrorists-were-using-flight-schools/377177b0-b632-429f-9a15-393c2256c2b4/

People with 'known links to Bin Laden', who was behind the WTC bombing in 1993, were allowed to do their flight training in the US. They were known to authorities but nothing was done.

You can vet all you like, but you need resources and the right people doing the vetting otherwise you get the above ridiculous situations.

Saying we need to do a better job vetting people is not rascist or Islamophobic, but it could be twisted into that by people pursuing an uber PC agenda?

The real danger to the US isn't Muslim. It's a guy with a combover. It's 2 brothers in their late 70s. It's Breitbart.

[whitey]

Dems didnt listen to their constituents, youre not listening to them, the DNC didnt listen to them, J70 isnt listening to them......if Trump does well, these people may be permanently lost to the Democratic Party

The election was more or less 50/50
Trump had better bots

Corect, but in a very tight race Trump flipped enough traditionally Democratic supporters over to his side and that made all the difference in the swing states

http://www.cnbc.com/heres-a-map-of-the-us-counties-that-flipped-to-trump-from-democrats/