The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Milltown Row2]

The President can only pardon Federal crimes

Wonder if the Republicans are going to go after him in State Court? (like the Democrats went after Trump)

Who really cares? Id say America has issues that are a 1000 times worse than what Joe has done and those before him..

It just shows how much of a basket case the States really is

[whitey]

The President can only pardon Federal crimes

Wonder if the Republicans are going to go after him in State Court? (like the Democrats went after Trump)

Who really cares? Id say America has issues that are a 1000 times worse than what Joe has done and those before him..

It just shows how much of a basket case the States really is

Plenty of people care

If the Republicans don't respond to what Democratic State prosecutors did to Trump there's no disincentive to them doing it again

Can you imagine a DUP prosecutor taking a case against Gerry Adams and trying the case in a town where 80% of the jury are Orangemen. That's what happened Trump

[Milltown Row2]

The President can only pardon Federal crimes

Wonder if the Republicans are going to go after him in State Court? (like the Democrats went after Trump)

Who really cares? Id say America has issues that are a 1000 times worse than what Joe has done and those before him..

It just shows how much of a basket case the States really is

Plenty of people care

If the Republicans don't respond to what Democratic State prosecutors did to Trump there's no disincentive to them doing it again

Can you imagine a DUP prosecutor taking a case against Gerry Adams and trying the case in a town where 80% of the jury are Orangemen. That's what happened Trump

They probably care more for that than the killing sprees

So again, a proper basket case

[J70]

The President can only pardon Federal crimes

Wonder if the Republicans are going to go after him in State Court? (like the Democrats went after Trump)

Who really cares? Id say America has issues that are a 1000 times worse than what Joe has done and those before him..

It just shows how much of a basket case the States really is

Plenty of people care

If the Republicans don't respond to what Democratic State prosecutors did to Trump there's no disincentive to them doing it again

Can you imagine a DUP prosecutor taking a case against Gerry Adams and trying the case in a town where 80% of the jury are Orangemen. That's what happened Trump

So what's the alternative? That Trump should just have been allowed to get off scot free with paying off Story Daniels to suppress her story, just like he has with everything else? Did Michael Cohen not do time and get disbarred for his role in the same? And on the make-up of the jury, did Trump not have equal representation in jury selection? Is there something about NYC residents that means they can't be fair-minded and parse evidence and legal issues? Did a jury drawn from the same pool not absolve him of rape in the civil trial brought by that accuser? Has Trump not benefited in the past from his connections and contributions to big city politicians, including when he and his family broke they law?

I think Biden made a massive mistake here for purely selfish reasons. Not least of the implications going forward is that Republicans will use his comments on the unfairness of the convictions to justify their own support of Trump's past and future abuse of pardons. Hunter Biden may well have been targeted for prosecution, like Trump, because of where he stood in the political landscape, but he also benefited greatly from that standing, again, as has Trump. I've no sympathy for either of them. But unless Democrats publicly and loudly split with Biden on this, this is going to be the standard across the board going forward. "Do what you want lads, there'll be pardons all around at the end! No one cares!"

Biden has the resources to vigourously fight whatever malfeasance and deferred revenge Trump had in mind for his son. Many of the other poor sods who are being lined up for Trump and Patel's "civil or criminal" targeting do not.

[SaffronSports]

The difference in going after Trump and not going after Biden would be Trump was a legit threat of taking the White House back so to discredit him with the court cases was a political move. Biden basically has 6 weeks left of working life. There's nothing political to gain from doing it imo.

[whitey]

The President can only pardon Federal crimes

Wonder if the Republicans are going to go after him in State Court? (like the Democrats went after Trump)

Who really cares? Id say America has issues that are a 1000 times worse than what Joe has done and those before him..

It just shows how much of a basket case the States really is

Plenty of people care

If the Republicans don't respond to what Democratic State prosecutors did to Trump there's no disincentive to them doing it again

Can you imagine a DUP prosecutor taking a case against Gerry Adams and trying the case in a town where 80% of the jury are Orangemen. That's what happened Trump

So what's the alternative? That Trump should just have been allowed to get off scot free with paying off Story Daniels to suppress her story, just like he has with everything else? Did Michael Cohen not do time and get disbarred for his role in the same? And on the make-up of the jury, did Trump not have equal representation in jury selection? Is there something about NYC residents that means they can't be fair-minded and parse evidence and legal issues? Did a jury drawn from the same pool not absolve him of rape in the civil trial brought by that accuser? Has Trump not benefited in the past from his connections and contributions to big city politicians, including when he and his family broke they law?

I think Biden made a massive mistake here for purely selfish reasons. Not least of the implications going forward is that Republicans will use his comments on the unfairness of the convictions to justify their own support of Trump's past and future abuse of pardons. Hunter Biden may well have been targeted for prosecution, like Trump, because of where he stood in the political landscape, but he also benefited greatly from that standing, again, as has Trump. I've no sympathy for either of them. But unless Democrats publicly and loudly split with Biden on this, this is going to be the standard across the board going forward. "Do what you want lads, there'll be pardons all around at the end! No one cares!"

Biden has the resources to vigourously fight whatever malfeasance and deferred revenge Trump had in mind for his son. Many of the other poor sods who are being lined up for Trump and Patel's "civil or criminal" targeting do not.

Do you think Gerry Adams would get a fair trial in a loyalist area of Belfast presided over by a judge who donated to a "Stop Sinn Fein" fundraiser?

[J70]

The difference in going after Trump and not going after Biden would be Trump was a legit threat of taking the White House back so to discredit him with the court cases was a political move. Biden basically has 6 weeks left of working life. There's nothing political to gain from doing it imo.

If it was a gamble to put Trump out of the running, it failed miserably (and I'm not talking about the general election result). Trump was dead and buried after the 2022 mid-terms. The nomination was up for grabs, especially by DeSantis. Trump didn't get wide support until the Manhattan DA brought the Stormy Daniels charges, probably because that was the case that you could argue was most political. And then he successfully harnessed the other cases, despite their robustness.

I think Trump 2016 would have let Biden ride off quietly. However, I think he is going to milk this revenge shit for everything he can and as loudly as he can. He thinks it will help him politically (and it might, at least for a while).

[J70]

I don't think comparing loyalist areas of Belfast vis a vis Adams to Manhattan vis a vis Trump is a fair comparison. Especially when Trump's very expensively assembled defense team, including jury consultants, are there to research, analyze and question the prospective jurors and defend his corner in selection.

On the judge, have there been issues where he was supposedly unprofessional or unfair to Trump for political reasons?

Going by your standard whitey, would it be possible for any politician or controversial public figure to get a "fair" trial anywhere in the US, where so many judges are elected on party lines or appointed by political parties?

[whitey]

I don't think comparing loyalist areas of Belfast vis a vis Adams to Manhattan vis a vis Trump is a fair comparison. Especially when Trump's very expensively assembled defense team, including jury consultants, are there to research, analyze and question the prospective jurors and defend his corner in selection.

On the judge, have there been issues where he was supposedly unprofessional or unfair to Trump for political reasons?

Going by your standard whitey, would it be possible for any politician or controversial public figure to get a "fair" trial anywhere in the US, where so many judges are elected on party lines or appointed by political parties?

I don't know but here's the NY AG for you

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/who-is-letitia-james-ny-attorney-general-has-long-history-of-taking-on-powerful-targets-including-trump

Letitia James fixated on Donald Trump as she campaigned for New York attorney general, branding the then-president a "con man" and ″carnival barker" and pledging to shine a "bright light into every dark corner of his real estate dealings."



As I always say, believe whatever you want. You hate Trump so obviously believe he got (and can get) a fair trial

(Actually Michael Smerconish claims, and I tend to agree with him that the more frivolous lawsuits did nothing but help Trump because it just muddied the water for the more serious cases)

[whitey]

I don't think comparing loyalist areas of Belfast vis a vis Adams to Manhattan vis a vis Trump is a fair comparison. Especially when Trump's very expensively assembled defense team, including jury consultants, are there to research, analyze and question the prospective jurors and defend his corner in selection.

On the judge, have there been issues where he was supposedly unprofessional or unfair to Trump for political reasons?

Going by your standard whitey, would it be possible for any politician or controversial public figure to get a "fair" trial anywhere in the US, where so many judges are elected on party lines or appointed by political parties?

He made a (small) donation to a group called "Stop Republicans"

https://www.newsweek.com/judge-merchan-recusal-biden-donation-analyst-1910992

[Wildweasel74]

Sure you got a man who basically caused a riot, leading to a few people dying, and never seen the inside of a court for it. Anybody else be in jail. What Biden do, in comparison?

[whitey]

Sure you got a man who basically caused a riot, leading to a few people dying, and never seen the inside of a court for it. Anybody else be in jail. What Biden do, in comparison?

That's kinda the point

What he got convicted of in NY was essentially nonsense.

They should have just focused on the January 6th

People were worn out trying to keep track of it all and he successfully muddied the waters

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Just so we're all clear, the issue was not that he paid off a porn star to keep her quiet. This is America, anyone can do that.   The issue is he illegally used his election campaign funds to do so.

[Armagh18]

Just so we're all clear, the issue was not that he paid off a porn star to keep her quiet. This is America, anyone can do that.   The issue is he illegally used his election campaign funds to do so.

Surely that helped the campaign? Lol

[whitey]

Just so we're all clear, the issue was not that he paid off a porn star to keep her quiet. This is America, anyone can do that.   The issue is he illegally used his election campaign funds to do so.

Surely that helped the campaign? Lol

And when the Clinton campaign illegally used campaign funds to pay for the dossier......wait for it......they got a slap in the wrist

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-2022-midterm-elections-business-elections-presidential-elections-5468774d18e8c46f81b55e9260b13e93