The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Eamonnca1]

What's the betting Trump doesn't feel like doing what the Secret Service tells him to do? I'll bet he's too focused on getting another round of Golf in.

[thewobbler]

At least the Secret Service were somewhat on the job this time and spotted (and shot at him) before he could get near enough Trump to shoot him.

Still, how did a lad with an assault rifle get in a position along the perimeter of the course while Trump was playing and only a hole or two back?

Or maybe I'm under a misapprehension about how intensive the protection and perimeters are. After all, in Obama's first term some header sprayed the White House itself with a semi-automatic. Thankfully no one was hit. And in his second term, another jumped the fence armed with a knife and made it into the building.

How would one go about locking down the perimeter of a 300 acre site? And for a day before and 6-8 hours in the day?

Surely there has to be a point where it's not just practical?

[Captain Scarlet]

That's pretty much what they are saying. It's something for a sitting President.
Although I imagine himself doesn't listen.

It's a shocking story no matter how you feel about Trump. Harris' team must be very fearful too.

That in itself is just insane to me.

[J70]

That's pretty much what they are saying. It's something for a sitting President.
Although I imagine himself doesn't listen.

It's a shocking story no matter how you feel about Trump. Harris' team must be very fearful too.

That in itself is just insane to me.

Is it all that shocking though given his continuing rhetoric and behaviour?

They're locking down schools, hospitals and public buildings in Springfield Ohio, and the Haitian community there are living in terror, all because Trump and Vance want to exploit what they know is a bullshit, baseless rumour started on Facebook.

Next week it'll be something else. Some whackjob is always going to take it too far, whether against Trump himself or those who are the unfortunate, innocent victims of his malevolence.

[theskull1]

I'm starting to see why the US didn't win any gold medals in Olympic shooting. Seems like the quantity of gun owners in the States isn't matched by the quality. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

What a well considered response from a mild mannered individual who I'm sure is well able to consider what the fall out would be in the event he was killed.

The west is fvuked. Global chaos seems to be the goal of our elites at the moment and the dumb masses are being led by the nose toward it

[Armamike]

Reminds me a bit of Inspector Drefuss and Clouseau.

[bennydorano]

I'm starting to see why the US didn't win any gold medals in Olympic shooting. Seems like the quantity of gun owners in the States isn't matched by the quality. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

What a well considered response from a mild mannered individual who I'm sure is well able to consider what the fall out would be in the event he was killed.

The west is fvuked. Global chaos seems to be the goal of our elites at the moment and the dumb masses are being led by the nose toward it

I actually agree chaos does seem to be the goal of a lot of political leaders but I still don't see the endgame, what do they want to achieve if they ultimately reach that point? Establishing dictatorships is the only logical conclusion I can come to??

[theskull1]

Wars, stock market crashes, recessions, lockdowns all pump and dump money making opportunities for elites and the political class is following the real power centers in every western country.

Peace and stability doesn't bring in the same returns for the big financiers in the west.
Everyone surely sees the every increasing debt bondage populations are subjected to (especially the younger generation.... student loans, car insurance, rent, nursery costs etc) whilst the very top 1% are creaming it.
Its all by design to keep the low and shrinking middle class enslaved... politicians are just public facing useful idiots IMO. 

[Jell 0 Biafra]

I'm starting to see why the US didn't win any gold medals in Olympic shooting. Seems like the quantity of gun owners in the States isn't matched by the quality. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

You see, this is why one shouldn't just rush to judgment.

The guy didn't actually fire a shot.

[johnnycool]

Wars, stock market crashes, recessions, lockdowns all pump and dump money making opportunities for elites and the political class is following the real power centers in every western country.

Peace and stability doesn't bring in the same returns for the big financiers in the west.
Everyone surely sees the every increasing debt bondage populations are subjected to (especially the younger generation.... student loans, car insurance, rent, nursery costs etc) whilst the very top 1% are creaming it.
Its all by design to keep the low and shrinking middle class enslaved... politicians are just public facing useful idiots IMO. 

Sadly, there's a lot of truth in that.

Student debt is the start of the slippy slope where control is gained and maintained of the masses.

[thewobbler]

Wars, stock market crashes, recessions, lockdowns all pump and dump money making opportunities for elites and the political class is following the real power centers in every western country.

Peace and stability doesn't bring in the same returns for the big financiers in the west.
Everyone surely sees the every increasing debt bondage populations are subjected to (especially the younger generation.... student loans, car insurance, rent, nursery costs etc) whilst the very top 1% are creaming it.
Its all by design to keep the low and shrinking middle class enslaved... politicians are just public facing useful idiots IMO. 

Sadly, there's a lot of truth in that.

Student debt is the start of the slippy slope where control is gained and maintained of the masses.

Agree 100% with all the above.

I do though have a sense that the ultra-commoditisation of housing and now utilities, will break western political structures sooner rather than later. The 1% need the middle classes more than the middle classes need the 1%. And working 50 hours a week just to pay rent is not middle class.

Well maybe not break. Reset and start again more likely.

[johnnycool]

Wars, stock market crashes, recessions, lockdowns all pump and dump money making opportunities for elites and the political class is following the real power centers in every western country.

Peace and stability doesn't bring in the same returns for the big financiers in the west.
Everyone surely sees the every increasing debt bondage populations are subjected to (especially the younger generation.... student loans, car insurance, rent, nursery costs etc) whilst the very top 1% are creaming it.
Its all by design to keep the low and shrinking middle class enslaved... politicians are just public facing useful idiots IMO. 

Sadly, there's a lot of truth in that.

Student debt is the start of the slippy slope where control is gained and maintained of the masses.

Agree 100% with all the above.

I do though have a sense that the ultra-commoditisation of housing and now utilities, will break western political structures sooner rather than later. The 1% need the middle classes more than the middle classes need the 1%. And working 50 hours a week just to pay rent is not middle class.

Well maybe not break. Reset and start again more likely.

The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists of the 2020's are now the middle classes.

[J70]

Wars, stock market crashes, recessions, lockdowns all pump and dump money making opportunities for elites and the political class is following the real power centers in every western country.

Peace and stability doesn't bring in the same returns for the big financiers in the west.
Everyone surely sees the every increasing debt bondage populations are subjected to (especially the younger generation.... student loans, car insurance, rent, nursery costs etc) whilst the very top 1% are creaming it.
Its all by design to keep the low and shrinking middle class enslaved... politicians are just public facing useful idiots IMO. 

Sadly, there's a lot of truth in that.

Student debt is the start of the slippy slope where control is gained and maintained of the masses.

Agree 100% with all the above.

I do though have a sense that the ultra-commoditisation of housing and now utilities, will break western political structures sooner rather than later. The 1% need the middle classes more than the middle classes need the 1%. And working 50 hours a week just to pay rent is not middle class.

Well maybe not break. Reset and start again more likely.

Is all of this by some nefarious, elite, design though, or is it simply the way capitalism, based on competition and self interest, evolves?

Everyone wants their house to maintain and increase in value. Everyone wants cheap "stuff" made, usually, halfway around the world. Lots of people don't want poor people and all the social issues that accompany them moving into their neighbourhood.

[Simon OParlon]

Wars, stock market crashes, recessions, lockdowns all pump and dump money making opportunities for elites and the political class is following the real power centers in every western country.

Peace and stability doesn't bring in the same returns for the big financiers in the west.
Everyone surely sees the every increasing debt bondage populations are subjected to (especially the younger generation.... student loans, car insurance, rent, nursery costs etc) whilst the very top 1% are creaming it.
Its all by design to keep the low and shrinking middle class enslaved... politicians are just public facing useful idiots IMO. 

Sadly, there's a lot of truth in that.

Student debt is the start of the slippy slope where control is gained and maintained of the masses.

Agree 100% with all the above.

I do though have a sense that the ultra-commoditisation of housing and now utilities, will break western political structures sooner rather than later. The 1% need the middle classes more than the middle classes need the 1%. And working 50 hours a week just to pay rent is not middle class.

Well maybe not break. Reset and start again more likely.

Is all of this by some nefarious, elite, design though, or is it simply the way capitalism, based on competition and self interest, evolves?

Everyone wants their house to maintain and increase in value. Everyone wants cheap "stuff" made, usually, halfway around the world. Lots of people don't want poor people and all the social issues that accompany them moving into their neighbourhood.

It's the way capitalism based on self-interest works.

[theskull1]

I assume people know that capitalism can exist in different forms. 

This is extreme crony capitalism. Wars and natural resources attainment needed to stop the fractional reserve banking ponzi bubble from popping. Governments have allowed the elites to run the game for several decades and the debt bubble is completely out of control.