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« Reply #20955 on: January 13, 2021, 02:13:41 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?
You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

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« Reply #20956 on: January 13, 2021, 02:29:59 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?
You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler

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« Reply #20957 on: January 13, 2021, 02:37:10 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?
You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler
Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

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« Reply #20958 on: January 13, 2021, 02:39:44 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?
You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler
Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they donít

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist

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« Reply #20959 on: January 13, 2021, 02:40:29 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".


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« Reply #20960 on: January 13, 2021, 02:42:26 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

Why do they need to be defined?


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« Reply #20961 on: January 13, 2021, 02:43:13 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?
You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler
Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they donít

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist
You think Sinn Fein are Marxist?

Right

You really have been gone from Ireland a long time, haven't you

Marxism is a legitimate political ideology, by the way

Slavery isn't

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« Reply #20962 on: January 13, 2021, 02:46:39 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".
"whitey's" post here is defending political corectness

He is saying that there should be no debate over removing statues - that those who want them removed should be silenced

That's exactly what political correctness is

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« Reply #20963 on: January 13, 2021, 02:46:46 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?
You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler
Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they donít

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist
You think Sinn Fein are Marxist?

Right

You really have been gone from Ireland a long time, haven't you

Marxism is a legitimate political ideology, by the way

Slavery isn't


Iím sure the tens of millions who perished in the Gulags would respectfully disagree with you

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« Reply #20964 on: January 13, 2021, 02:47:04 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

Why do they need to be defined?

Because you seem to imply the statues are now controversial because some single individual just decided out of the blue one day that they were an issue to be inflicted on the "people".

Is that an incorrect interpretation?

I also like you lump reconciliation and political correctness in together. Is reconciliation illegitimate?

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« Reply #20965 on: January 13, 2021, 02:48:09 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".
"whitey's" post here is defending political corectness

He is saying that there should be no debate over statues

That's exactly what political correctness is

No-Iím relishing the day when those who use PC to score political points have it turned back on them

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« Reply #20966 on: January 13, 2021, 02:50:11 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?
You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler
Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they donít

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist
You think Sinn Fein are Marxist?

Right

You really have been gone from Ireland a long time, haven't you

Marxism is a legitimate political ideology, by the way

Slavery isn't


Iím sure the tens of millions who perished in the Gulags would respectfully disagree with you
Slavery and Marxist ideology are entirely separate things

Slavery and the Confederacy are indivisible

The Condfederacy existed in order to maintain slavery

Those who argue who for Conferderate statues and symbols to remain standing are arguing in favour of the celebration of slavery

That is not a legitimate ideology

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« Reply #20967 on: January 13, 2021, 02:50:27 PM »
Trump talks about "people" all the time to try to lend his nonsense and lies an air of legitimacy. "People are saying" this or "they say" that.

Just yesterday he said ""People thought that what I said was totally appropriate" in reference to his rabble rousing of the mob to go riot at the Capitol, including to try to hunt down Mike Pence.

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #20968 on: January 13, 2021, 02:51:11 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

Why do they need to be defined?

Because you seem to imply the statues are now controversial because some single individual just decided out of the blue one day that they were an issue to be inflicted on the "people".

Is that an incorrect interpretation?

I also like you lump reconciliation and political correctness in together. Is reconciliation illegitimate?

I didnít say the were ďnowĒ controversial

I implied that in 50 years time when viewed through a different lens (by people who were born after the troubles) in all likelihood there would be enough opposition to warrant their removal

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« Reply #20969 on: January 13, 2021, 02:52:09 PM »
So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".
"whitey's" post here is defending political corectness

He is saying that there should be no debate over statues

That's exactly what political correctness is

No-Iím relishing the day when those who use PC to score political points have it turned back on them

What does that even mean?