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« Reply #18180 on: September 19, 2020, 08:02:55 AM »
Terrible news on RBG. It has to be hoped that the reviews of her life and career will shine a light on decency, reason and learning. It would do no harm for the American electorate to reminded of these values and their merits in the run up to the election

Itís very much regrettable that Trump will get a go at a replacement.

The evidence that Donald Trump is an idiot, lacks human decency, has no grasp of the importance or complexity of international relations, struggles with fact, logic and cause:effect is overwhelming. It would be terrible if his presidency was given enduring effects but it now seems likely via a SC appointment

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« Reply #18181 on: September 19, 2020, 09:43:43 AM »
It's likely that the Dems win the Senate and Presidency
The way the SC is chosen is not a law of nature. It will have to be changed to deal with issues such as climate change.
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« Reply #18182 on: September 19, 2020, 11:21:35 AM »
Didnít know anything about her but the American tripartite division of power is a balls. It quite stupid to declare Supreme Court justices for life, would make much more sense to just have a fixed term appt. it leads to changing of the Supreme Court staff at the random call of death, which is a poor structure along with being macabre.
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« Reply #18183 on: September 19, 2020, 12:15:05 PM »
Iím off social media until after the election, but I will make an exception

Due to their absolutely disgraceful behavior during the Kavanaugh hearings, the Democrats deserve to have this one rammed right up their holes.

Pile. of. shit.

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« Reply #18184 on: September 19, 2020, 12:19:53 PM »
The notorious RBG. RiP

If  McConnell pushes through a nominee after blocking Garland in 2016, Trump will probably lose and the GOP will probably lose the the Senate.

The US is a mess.

If Trump and McConnell do this, there needs to be a serious f**king backlash.

Make it a massive election issue, get the vote out, take back the White House and the Senate, and ram their cynicism down their throats by adding a few justices to the court.

The Dems have been pussies for far too long.

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« Reply #18185 on: September 19, 2020, 12:58:02 PM »
It's likely that the Dems win the Senate and Presidency
The way the SC is chosen is not a law of nature. It will have to be changed to deal with issues such as climate change.
If Biden wins and the Democrats take the senate - and that appears a long shot to me at this stage - the Democrats should expand the Supreme Court to 15 and ram through the most left-wing justices they can find, as well as massively expanding the judiciary nationwide as a whole - which is already long overdue

And make DC and Puerto Rico states

The reality is that as long as the Democrats don't have the presidency and the senate, another liberal justice will never again be approved

If Biden wins and the Democrats take the senate, the gloves need to come off, it needs to be absolute war, and the right-wing needs to be totally obliterated - because the right-wing wants to totally obliterate democracy and any sort of reason

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« Reply #18186 on: September 19, 2020, 05:15:12 PM »
Sad to see Ginsberg die she seemed like a decent person and a real advocate for good government and womanís rights it would be great to get someone of a similar mind in there!!

If you didnít think things were a bit mad over there already shit is going to get crazier!

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« Reply #18187 on: September 20, 2020, 07:56:00 PM »
It's likely that the Dems win the Senate and Presidency
The way the SC is chosen is not a law of nature. It will have to be changed to deal with issues such as climate change.
If Biden wins and the Democrats take the senate - and that appears a long shot to me at this stage - the Democrats should expand the Supreme Court to 15 and ram through the most left-wing justices they can find, as well as massively expanding the judiciary nationwide as a whole - which is already long overdue

And make DC and Puerto Rico states

The reality is that as long as the Democrats don't have the presidency and the senate, another liberal justice will never again be approved

If Biden wins and the Democrats take the senate, the gloves need to come off, it needs to be absolute war, and the right-wing needs to be totally obliterated - because the right-wing wants to totally obliterate democracy and any sort of reason

Hear bloody hear. This tyranny of the conservative minority has gone on long enough. Time to get the sword out and fight back for once.

We only need a handful of GOP senators to block a Trump SC nomination, and so far there's a chance of holding it off until after the election. Dems are slightly favoured to take back the senate according to the latest polls.

An expanded SC with term limits is the way to go. If it doesn't happen, what's left of American democracy will die and The Handmaid's Tale will start to look like a documentary.

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« Reply #18188 on: September 22, 2020, 12:32:33 AM »


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« Reply #18189 on: September 22, 2020, 02:17:35 PM »
This is a fun read.  The article entirely consists of quotes from Republicans about why Justices should not be appointed to the Supreme Court in an election year.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/21/opinion/supreme-court-nomination-ginsburg.html
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« Reply #18190 on: September 22, 2020, 02:30:21 PM »
This is a fun read.  The article entirely consists of quotes from Republicans about why Justices should not be appointed to the Supreme Court in an election year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/opinion/ruth-bader-ginsburg-senate-democrats.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Wrong article linked.

Although that one is interesting too.

Can you imagine Trump and Fox News if the Dems do pull out some of those suggestions such as objecting to the UCs or making all the GOP senators in those tight races be present in person in D.C. to form a quorum instead of being out fundraising and shaking hands at home? :)

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« Reply #18191 on: September 22, 2020, 02:33:45 PM »
This is a fun read.  The article entirely consists of quotes from Republicans about why Justices should not be appointed to the Supreme Court in an election year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/opinion/ruth-bader-ginsburg-senate-democrats.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage


Although that one is interesting too.

Can you imagine Trump and Fox News if the Dems do pull out some of those suggestions such as objecting to the UCs or making all the GOP senators in those tight races be present in person in D.C. to form a quorum instead of being out fundraising and shaking hands at home? :)


Fixed above. Thanks J70.

 
I might actually watch Fox if that happened!  I can't see the Democrats doing anything so ballsy though.

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« Reply #18192 on: September 22, 2020, 02:45:36 PM »
This is a fun read.  The article entirely consists of quotes from Republicans about why Justices should not be appointed to the Supreme Court in an election year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/opinion/ruth-bader-ginsburg-senate-democrats.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage


Although that one is interesting too.

Can you imagine Trump and Fox News if the Dems do pull out some of those suggestions such as objecting to the UCs or making all the GOP senators in those tight races be present in person in D.C. to form a quorum instead of being out fundraising and shaking hands at home? :)


Fixed above. Thanks J70.

 
I might actually watch Fox if that happened!  I can't see the Democrats doing anything so ballsy though.

No, they're generally relatively gutless compared to the Republicans.

There's no chance in hell that they would have ploughed ahead with this nomination anyway if the roles were reversed. Say what you want about Mitch McConnell, but he doesn't give two fucks about public outcry or PR. Eyes on the prize, that's all that matters, especially when it comes to the courts.

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« Reply #18193 on: September 22, 2020, 03:39:14 PM »


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« Reply #18194 on: September 22, 2020, 04:05:29 PM »
This is a fun read.  The article entirely consists of quotes from Republicans about why Justices should not be appointed to the Supreme Court in an election year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/opinion/ruth-bader-ginsburg-senate-democrats.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage


Although that one is interesting too.

Can you imagine Trump and Fox News if the Dems do pull out some of those suggestions such as objecting to the UCs or making all the GOP senators in those tight races be present in person in D.C. to form a quorum instead of being out fundraising and shaking hands at home? :)


Fixed above. Thanks J70.

 
I might actually watch Fox if that happened!  I can't see the Democrats doing anything so ballsy though.

No, they're generally relatively gutless compared to the Republicans.

There's no chance in hell that they would have ploughed ahead with this nomination anyway if the roles were reversed. Say what you want about Mitch McConnell, but he doesn't give two fucks about public outcry or PR. Eyes on the prize, that's all that matters, especially when it comes to the courts.

That's the truth. He might look ridiculous, but he's the most ruthless MFer ever to sit in that position. Dems need to grow a pair and fight back. Pack the court next year to counter the illegitimate justices appointed by Trump.