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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #17146 on: June 30, 2020, 07:53:21 AM »
Trump rallies won't be such a feature in 2020 thanks to his mismanagement of the pandemic.
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« Reply #17147 on: June 30, 2020, 10:39:16 AM »
Any connection between protests and covid rise ? would that be off limits to criticize in current climate

No.  No connection.

Protests did not lead to spike in COVID-19 cases, study finds

COVID-19 has not surged in cities with big protests, but it has in states that reopened early. Here are some possible reasons.

Black Lives Matter Demonstrations Are Not A Big Factor In Oregon's COVID-19 Spike

Parties ó Not Protests ó Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus
Amazingly enough those who care most about justice also tend to care most about behaving in a responsible manner while protesting.

The two sort of go together.

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« Reply #17148 on: June 30, 2020, 11:16:30 AM »
Any connection between protests and covid rise ? would that be off limits to criticize in current climate

No.  No connection.

Protests did not lead to spike in COVID-19 cases, study finds

Whether or not they can show a direct connection. a large number of people publicly giving two fingers to the concept of public health can only have undermined adherence to responsible behaviour. It is like Dominic Cummings, he did not hugely damage public health by his particular action, but he did huge damage by his irresponsible example.
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« Reply #17149 on: June 30, 2020, 02:30:41 PM »
Any connection between protests and covid rise ? would that be off limits to criticize in current climate

No.  No connection.

Protests did not lead to spike in COVID-19 cases, study finds

COVID-19 has not surged in cities with big protests, but it has in states that reopened early. Here are some possible reasons.

Black Lives Matter Demonstrations Are Not A Big Factor In Oregon's COVID-19 Spike

Parties ó Not Protests ó Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus
Amazingly enough those who care most about justice also tend to care most about behaving in a responsible manner while protesting.

The two sort of go together.

From the 1000's of videos of protests and subsequent riots (in some instances) it is pretty clear that 'protesting in a responsible manner' was not high up on the agenda of some

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« Reply #17150 on: June 30, 2020, 02:39:05 PM »
Any connection between protests and covid rise ? would that be off limits to criticize in current climate

No.  No connection.

Protests did not lead to spike in COVID-19 cases, study finds

Whether or not they can show a direct connection. a large number of people publicly giving two fingers to the concept of public health can only have undermined adherence to responsible behaviour. It is like Dominic Cummings, he did not hugely damage public health by his particular action, but he did huge damage by his irresponsible example.

This is fantastic news

Completely undermines the Democrats calls for vote (ie cheat) by mail

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« Reply #17151 on: June 30, 2020, 05:36:14 PM »
Any connection between protests and covid rise ? would that be off limits to criticize in current climate

No.  No connection.

Protests did not lead to spike in COVID-19 cases, study finds

COVID-19 has not surged in cities with big protests, but it has in states that reopened early. Here are some possible reasons.

Black Lives Matter Demonstrations Are Not A Big Factor In Oregon's COVID-19 Spike

Parties ó Not Protests ó Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus
Amazingly enough those who care most about justice also tend to care most about behaving in a responsible manner while protesting.

The two sort of go together.

From the 1000's of videos of protests and subsequent riots (in some instances) it is pretty clear that 'protesting in a responsible manner' was not high up on the agenda of some

"Some" meaning the cops, no doubt.

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« Reply #17152 on: June 30, 2020, 05:38:23 PM »
Any connection between protests and covid rise ? would that be off limits to criticize in current climate

No.  No connection.

Protests did not lead to spike in COVID-19 cases, study finds

COVID-19 has not surged in cities with big protests, but it has in states that reopened early. Here are some possible reasons.

Black Lives Matter Demonstrations Are Not A Big Factor In Oregon's COVID-19 Spike

Parties ó Not Protests ó Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus
Amazingly enough those who care most about justice also tend to care most about behaving in a responsible manner while protesting.

The two sort of go together.

From the 1000's of videos of protests and subsequent riots (in some instances) it is pretty clear that 'protesting in a responsible manner' was not high up on the agenda of some

"Some" meaning the cops, no doubt.
If the cops stopped murdering, intimidating and rioting, maybe protestors wouldn't protest.

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« Reply #17153 on: June 30, 2020, 05:59:16 PM »
This heartbreaking story just gets worse. Not content with murdering the gentlest soul you could ever meet, they have the gall to gloat about it. How is this any different from the Gestapo?

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Colorado Police Officers Under Investigation For Photos At Elijah McClain Memorial
June 30, 202012:09 PM ET

The police department in Aurora, Colo., is investigating several officers who posed for photographs near the site where Elijah McClain was forcibly arrested as he walked home from a convenience store last summer. The site became a memorial to the 23-year-old who died in police custody. He was not suspected of committing any crime.

Interim Chief of Police Vanessa Wilson announced the investigation late Monday night, saying that when she learned about the photos on Thursday, she "immediately ordered Internal Affairs to make this investigation their top priority."

The photos came to light after an Aurora police officer reported them to the department's internal affairs unit. Summarizing that initial report, Wilson said that "multiple Aurora Police officers were depicted in photographs near the site where Elijah McClain died."

Wilson did not provide further details about the officers or the photographs. Reporter Brian Maass of local TV station CBS 4 described the images as showing officers reenacting the carotid restraint hold that was used on McClain.


The police chief released her statement confirming the internal investigation about an hour after Maass tweeted about the photos.

McClain was confronted by police on Aug. 24, after a man who was driving down the same street called 911 and reported a man who looked "sketchy."

At the time, "McClain was walking home from a local convenience store carrying a bottle of iced tea," as NPR's Vanessa Romo has reported. "He was wearing a ski mask and listening to music on the kind of headphones that fit snugly inside the ear."

McClain's family has said he sometimes wore a face mask because he felt cold due to anemia. Police body-cam footage from the encounter shows McClain pleading with the officers, "I was just going home. I don't have a gun. I don't do that stuff. I don't even kill flies. I don't even eat meat."

He is pinned down for several minutes in a carotid hold.

A medic with the Aurora Fire Rescue later injected McClain with ketamine to calm him. McClain was put into an ambulance and suffered cardiac arrest en route to the hospital. He was taken off life support on Aug. 30.

Last week, Colorado Gov. Jared Polis took the rare step of ordering a new investigation into McClain's death, telling Attorney General Phil Weiser to prosecute the case if the facts warrant criminal charges.

The governor acted after millions of people signed a petition calling for an independent look into McClain's death.

"They murdered him. They are bullies with badges," McClain's mother, Sheneen McClain, said of the Aurora police in an interview with CBS News.

In February, the Aurora Police Department cleared the three officers involved in the fatal encounter ó Nathan Woodyard, Jason Rosenblatt and Randy Roedema.

Adams County District Attorney Dave Young also declined to file criminal charges, saying that while he might agree with those who say McClain's death was avoidable, he did not believe the evidence and circumstances would support a criminal case.

McClain's death has come under renewed scrutiny in recent weeks, as mass protests have focused public outrage over police killings of Blacks and other minorities.

Chief Wilson said that when the internal investigation into the photos began, the officers involved were switched into "non-enforcement capacities." They are currently on administrative leave with pay.

The internal affairs unit finished its investigation Monday night, Wilson said. She pledged that her department would release all materials related to the inquiry.

"This will include reports, photographic evidence obtained, officer's names, and my final determination which can rise to the level of termination," Wilson said.

The pattern is so predictable it's not even funny.

  • A black man acts slightly different from the norm.
  • A white person gets freaked out and calls the cops.
  • Cops show up and get rough with their victim, who has not done anything illegal, and who has underlying medical conditions.
  • The victim dies.
  • Police investigate themselves and clear their buddies of any wrongdoing.
  • Prosecutors, who have a cozy relationship with police, decline to prosecute despite  glaring evidence that would have seen a private citizen locked up without bail if they had done the same thing.

In cases like George Floyd, conservatives dig into the victim's past to find wrongdoing, implying that the extra-judicial killing was justified. How can they do this in the case of Elijah McClain? He was on the autistic spectrum. He wore a mask to stay warm because of his anemia. He was listening to music and dancing as he walked, which, the last time I checked, was not illegal.

He was not a thug. He was not a criminal. He was an innocent. He would go to the local animal shelter and play the violin to sooth lonely homeless kittens.

His last words were:




Let's see your ifs, buts, "there must be more to the story" claims, and justification for this, evil Nazis.
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« Reply #17155 on: June 30, 2020, 11:42:40 PM »
Show us your evidence, Gmac. The National Enquirer and Fox News donít count.

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« Reply #17156 on: July 01, 2020, 01:06:06 AM »
Show us your evidence, Gmac. The National Enquirer and Fox News donít count.
hundreds of thousands of people protesting and it doesnít cause a spike ?, Austin , Los Angeles spikes started around June 15th, the media are all in on Biden the blm movement and anything anti trump so I really donít believe what they say but you can look it up yourself .

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« Reply #17157 on: July 01, 2020, 01:49:26 AM »
Show us your evidence, Gmac. The National Enquirer and Fox News donít count.
hundreds of thousands of people protesting and it doesnít cause a spike ?, Austin , Los Angeles spikes started around June 15th, the media are all in on Biden the blm movement and anything anti trump so I really donít believe what they say but you can look it up yourself .

Show us your evidence, Gmac. The National Enquirer and Fox News donít count.

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« Reply #17158 on: July 01, 2020, 02:00:28 AM »


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« Reply #17159 on: July 01, 2020, 03:28:21 AM »


states there eamon not cities , Austin a liberal utopia has the highest positivity rate in country Los Angeles running out of icu beds , hog beds of protests