The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

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muppet

Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2010, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: new devil on June 03, 2010, 11:07:34 PM
So does that mean stew lied about the e-mail  ???
Not necessarily although it is not uncommon on the board. He may well have received an email from a rogue masquerading as Bingobus or he may have received an anonymous email and decided that Bingobus was the sender.

As we are all supposed to be anonymous wouldn't any email be anonymous anyway?
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A minutes silence for Livepool football Club will be held on Merseyside today after which Anfield will be bull-dozed to make way for a new Asda.


Minder

Quote from: under the bar on June 04, 2010, 08:28:42 AM
A minutes silence for Livepool football Club will be held on Merseyside today after which Anfield will be bull-dozed to make way for a new Asda.

There is no way you could be trying to pass that off as a "joke" so i can only think it is true.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"


NAG1

I am a untied fan and have to say I didnt mind Rafa nothing to do with Liverpool or whatever but he did come across as a genuine enough guy and even when he was under pressure seemed to carry himself well. (Maybe with one exception)

My point is do the liverpool fans think that they will have to sell FT or SG to finance the deal of one of the better managers? A big compensation package will have to be paid plus his salary then.

So is the money there for that? and if not will they get someone in on the cheap?

BennyHarp

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 03, 2010, 07:00:45 PM
so the speculation moves till who is going to replace him, from the mirror

Names in the frame apparently include Bayern Munich boss Louis Van Gaal and Benfica manager Jorge Jesus, although neither feature in the official betting for the job.

Based on those odds, MirrorFootball's Ian Cruise assesses the runners and riders...

Martin O'Neill
The Aston Villa boss is the bookies' favourite for the Anfield hot-seat, and it's a role he would surely relish. Unless Villa chief Randy Lerner hands over a massive chunk of his personal fortune - something he's already stated he's unwilling to do - then realistically, O'Neill has taken the Midlanders pretty much as far as he can. Has proved at Celtic than he can deal with the expectation at a big club, albeit in a much smaller pool, but question marks remain over his spending policy when it comes to the very biggest names. Not that that will necessarily be a problem at cash-strapped Anfield, of course. Odds: 7/4 Favourite

Roy Hodgson
The affable Hodgson would be near the top of anybody's wish list this summer after the remarkable job he's done at Fulham, steering them from the brink of relegation to the Europa League final. He's already proved his credentials abroad and now, after a disappointing spell at Blackburn in the late 90s, his stock is finally at a place it deserves to be in his home nation. Was considered the favourite for the England job had Fabio Capello left after the World Cup, but now that the Italian has committed to the Three Lions , he may be even more open to an approach and one last shot at the big time. Odds: 5/2

Jurgen Klinsmann
Has been linked with the job in the past when it leaked out that Tom Hicks had spoken to the German about succeeding Benitez as far back as November 2007 - arguably the beginning of the end for the Spaniard at Anfield. The former Germany striker worked wonders in his first managerial job when he guided the host nation to the semi-finals of the 2006 World Cup finals, but his copybook was blotted by a disappointing year in charge of Bayern Munich that ended in the sack in April 2009. Currently out of work, he would be a big gamble and would need to get off to a great start to win over the Kop. Odds: 6/1

Kenny Dalglish
The King of the Kop would be a hugely popular choice with the fans, and his appointment may even persuade some of the more vocal opponents of the American owners to give them a second chance, but he's not managed in the top-flight in England for 12 years since leaving Newcastle. The game has moved on immeasurably since then and, while the Scot would find it hard to resist the lure of a return to his spiritual home, there has to be a danger that it would all end in tears. Odds: 7/1

Guus Hiddink
The Dutchman is one of the most widely respected coaches in world football, and his one brief spell in England - three months in charge of Chelsea - ended in FA Cup glory at Wembley as he rescued a season that was turning to despair under Felipe Scolari. Stamford Bridge stars speakly fondly of Hiddink, who is due to take charge of the Turkish national team in August when his contract with the Russian FA expires. So if Liverpool want him, they would need to move quickly. Although the compensation they would need to fork out to the Turks might prove a stumbling block. Odds: 8/1

Frank Rijkaard
Won two La Liga titles and the Champions League with Barcelona, but that still wasn't enough to save his job after a season of failure in 2007-08. Currently in charge of Turkish side Galatasaray, his attacking style made Barca hugely watchable and would be almost the polar opposite to Benitez's defensive first tactics. But although that might go down well with the neutrals, it might leave the Reds a little too open at the back for the liking of the supporters. As anyone who watched a Barcelona game between between 2003-2008 would attest. Odds: 14/1

Sammy Lee
Rafa's right-hand man has taken the reins on a temporary basis until a replacement is found, but if this saga drags on like everything else has at Anfield in the past year or two then it's not inconceivable that the former Liverpool midfielder could find himself in the hot-seat when the Premier League kick off in August. And if he gets off to a flier, who knows? However, his record of one win in 11 games in charge of Bolton in his only stint as a No.1 would suggest he's unlikely to be viewed as a long-term solution. Odds 14/1

Slaven Bilic
It could be argued that Bilic should have quit as Croatia coach after ending England's hopes of Euro 2008 qualification, because failure to reach this summer's World Cup finals has seen his star wane somewhat. The former West Ham and Everton defender says he will remain as his country's national boss for another two years, but you'd have to suspect that if Liverpool came calling he'd walk to Anfield to get the gig. Odds: 16/1

Mark Hughes
The idea of a Manchester United legend taking charge at Anfield will be anathema to a large majority of Reds fans. But then they said that before 'Sparky' was handed the managerial reins at Manchester City. One of the reasons cited for his departure from Eastlands, however, was the fact that he was not a big enough name to lure the great and the good of the world's game to the north-west, despite the Arab billions at his disposal. And a few stints since in the Sky studios as a post-match analyst ain't likely to have been enough to change that much, is it? Odds: 16/1

Nobody seems to be mentioning John Barnes as potential manager - maybe with Kenny Dalglish as number two! What could possibly go wrong with that dream team?
That was never a square ball!!

brokencrossbar1

With Daglish leading the Head Hunting crew does this rule him out I wonder?  From the point of view of the club in the short term it may be best to go with someone like him.  To bring in a big name they will have to have a buy out of his existing contract and give him a fat signing on fee.  This will cut into any transfer budget that there may be.  With the club up for sale the new owners may not want the management team in place so then they are sacked and there is another scramble. 

If Kenny is in on an interim basis that will create a level of continuity, with Sammy Lee in there as well.  I am also going to throw a curve ball out there and say that Carra should be brought into the management structure.  He will continue to play but I reckon he will be a goog man to learn the ropes under the guidance of Kenny.  It is going to be a very difficult season in front and with no candidates jumping out to be brought in I think a set up like this until the club is sold would be most attractive.

blewuporstuffed

i wouldnt mind seeing Frank Rijkaard to be honest. did well at barca, and plays good football.
think hes at Galatasaray at the minute going into the second year of a 2 year contract.
Hidink would be number one choice, but just cant see that happening.
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johnneycool

Dream on, at best its going to be Martin O'Neill or Roy Hodgson.

Liverpool just don't have the spondulocks to attract the top level managers any more.

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: johnneycool on June 04, 2010, 11:11:25 AM
Dream on, at best its going to be Martin O'Neill or Roy Hodgson.

Liverpool just don't have the spondulocks to attract the top level managers any more.

you really think Galatasaray are a more attratcive proposition than liverpool?
As poor a season as liverpool had last year and even with their financial trouble, they are still a massive club, with some world class players playing in one of the top leagues in the world.
there will be plenty of managers interested, its just about getting the right one.
hodgson or o'niell might get the job, but itf they do, it will be because the club feel they are the right person for it, not becasue they cant get anyone else
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seafoid

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 04, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
i wouldnt mind seeing Frank Rijkaard to be honest. did well at barca, and plays good football.
think hes at Galatasaray at the minute going into the second year of a 2 year contract.
Hidink would be number one choice, but just cant see that happening.

Frank Rijkaard has lovely suits

Hound

Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2010, 10:38:09 AM
I am a untied fan and have to say I didnt mind Rafa nothing to do with Liverpool or whatever but he did come across as a genuine enough guy and even when he was under pressure seemed to carry himself well. (Maybe with one exception)

My point is do the liverpool fans think that they will have to sell FT or SG to finance the deal of one of the better managers? A big compensation package will have to be paid plus his salary then.

So is the money there for that? and if not will they get someone in on the cheap?
According to reports, Benitez is receiving £3m up-front and another £3m over the course of the next 5 years.

The new manager will get no more than what Benitez was on salary wise.

Liverpool will not hire anyone who is tied into a long contract. O'Neill and Hodgson are reasonable guys to put on the shortlist as they are on rolling one year contracts, so any compensation to their club would be relatively low. Equally anyone of contract such as Pelligrini and  Rijkaard might be a contender. The likes of Bilic and Sven may be out of contract at the end of the world cup.

According to reports, any new Liverpool manager will only be offered a rolling one year contract, as the current owners are expected to sell this year, and the new owners may want their own man. That may put some people off and is a reason why Sammy Lee might be a contender as a temporary manager (with Dalglish).

So between the up-front payoff to Benitez and a possible small payoff to another club, the £5m transfer budget for summer 2010 could be gone already.   

So selling FT or SG is not required to hire a new manager. It would be required if the new manager wanted a transfer budget.

Liverpool's first choice eleven is still pretty good. Weakness at left back perhaps, but the back 4 had the most clean sheets in the premiership last season (equal with Chelsea). A midfield trio of Mascherano, Gerrard and Aqualini with Torres up front is a very good spine. Any two of Kuyt, Benny, Babel, Maxi, Jovanavic, Riera out wide. Its not as bad as people make out. Need the new manager to try and get the players playing to the best of their ability.

Doogie Browser

I would not let Sammy Lee run a bath never mind a football club as big as Liverpool, he is a yes man on the bench and nothing else, another Phil Neal.

Catch the high ball

I think Roy Hodgson could be the man as he has worked wonders at Fulham by spending £15 million in about 2 seasons on players.
He would bound to be able to keep them in the top 4 with the quality already there.
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