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« Reply #47565 on: April 07, 2021, 12:22:55 PM »
The tie's over. That defence needs protection from midfield and the supply lines cut out and there was none of that last night.  Giving Madrid time on the ball to pick out passes was always going to leave us badly exposed at the back.  I can't remember one single tackle in the middle of the pitch. To make a tackle you have to get near your opponent.  Trent is a major weak link in the defence at the moment, with Gomez out.  Teams are constantly targeting Liverpool down that side, rather than Robertson.  I don't think Trent has got any worse defensively, it's just now he doesn't have Gomez to get him out of jail.  Trent is a brilliant passer of the ball and has one of the best deliveries around, but he's not an instinctive defender. It's not really surprising that Southgate didn't pick him - maybe he just wants his right back to be able to defend first and foremost.
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« Reply #47566 on: April 07, 2021, 12:55:06 PM »
The tie's over. That defence needs protection from midfield and the supply lines cut out and there was none of that last night.  Giving Madrid time on the ball to pick out passes was always going to leave us badly exposed at the back.  I can't remember one single tackle in the middle of the pitch. To make a tackle you have to get near your opponent.  Trent is a major weak link in the defence at the moment, with Gomez out.  Teams are constantly targeting Liverpool down that side, rather than Robertson.  I don't think Trent has got any worse defensively, it's just now he doesn't have Gomez to get him out of jail.  Trent is a brilliant passer of the ball and has one of the best deliveries around, but he's not an instinctive defender. It's not really surprising that Southgate didn't pick him - maybe he just wants his right back to be able to defend first and foremost.

I can see a case for Liverpool going out and signing a RB in the summer with a view to moving TAA into midfield when Henderson reduces his playing time. He obviously has the passing and shooting ability but he is comfortable coming infield as well. Could be an interesting move for all parties.

As for yesterday it was poor form Liverpool's perspective. Mane played as badly as I have ever seen him although the entire teams passing was pretty poor. I actually think Firmino would have been a better option than Jota given the lack of space around the box. Tie is not over but it is hard to see Liverpool keeping a clean sheet so scoring 3 at a minimum is a big ask.


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« Reply #47567 on: April 07, 2021, 01:36:52 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/04/06/trent-alexander-arnolds-night-forget-madrid-could-spell-end/

In the moments when Liverpool were in the opposition half at Estadio Alfredo Di Stefano, Trent Alexander-Arnold found himself in central midfield trying to pick passes around an impenetrable wall of white.

There is still the potential for one of Englandís finest talents to end up further advanced, like his hero Steven Gerrard. At 22, he has the ability to set the pace of games. His crossing is as good as any winger in the Premier League, with his delivery at the Emirates Stadium last weekend a case in point.   

It is his defending that saw him dropped from the England squad and why Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier and Reece James are now ahead of him in Gareth Southgateís pecking order.
The two sides of Alexander-Arnoldís game were perfectly illustrated in the two halves on Realís training ground. As poor as his defending was, his attacking in the second half was sublime.

It was no surprise that he started the move that saw Mohamed Salah score a vital away goal to take back to Anfield next week. He then hit a volley to set up a chance for Diogo Jota, executed with perfect pace and flight. It was difficult to see another full-back in Europe pulling off such a pass. 

Perhaps he needs to be in midfield, dictating the play rather than having one eye on the opposition forwards. Philipp Lahm did it later in his career when Pep Guardiola realised the football brain his left-back possessed. Most have seen by now that Alexander-Arnold can play in a more advanced position. Jurgen Klopp could have the next Gareth Bale, circa 2012, on his hands.
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« Reply #47568 on: April 07, 2021, 02:46:58 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/04/06/trent-alexander-arnolds-night-forget-madrid-could-spell-end/

In the moments when Liverpool were in the opposition half at Estadio Alfredo Di Stefano, Trent Alexander-Arnold found himself in central midfield trying to pick passes around an impenetrable wall of white.

There is still the potential for one of Englandís finest talents to end up further advanced, like his hero Steven Gerrard. At 22, he has the ability to set the pace of games. His crossing is as good as any winger in the Premier League, with his delivery at the Emirates Stadium last weekend a case in point.   

It is his defending that saw him dropped from the England squad and why Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier and Reece James are now ahead of him in Gareth Southgateís pecking order.
The two sides of Alexander-Arnoldís game were perfectly illustrated in the two halves on Realís training ground. As poor as his defending was, his attacking in the second half was sublime.

It was no surprise that he started the move that saw Mohamed Salah score a vital away goal to take back to Anfield next week. He then hit a volley to set up a chance for Diogo Jota, executed with perfect pace and flight. It was difficult to see another full-back in Europe pulling off such a pass. 

Perhaps he needs to be in midfield, dictating the play rather than having one eye on the opposition forwards. Philipp Lahm did it later in his career when Pep Guardiola realised the football brain his left-back possessed. Most have seen by now that Alexander-Arnold can play in a more advanced position. Jurgen Klopp could have the next Gareth Bale, circa 2012, on his hands.

They left the joke till the last line.

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« Reply #47569 on: April 07, 2021, 03:03:54 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/04/06/trent-alexander-arnolds-night-forget-madrid-could-spell-end/

In the moments when Liverpool were in the opposition half at Estadio Alfredo Di Stefano, Trent Alexander-Arnold found himself in central midfield trying to pick passes around an impenetrable wall of white.

There is still the potential for one of Englandís finest talents to end up further advanced, like his hero Steven Gerrard. At 22, he has the ability to set the pace of games. His crossing is as good as any winger in the Premier League, with his delivery at the Emirates Stadium last weekend a case in point.   

It is his defending that saw him dropped from the England squad and why Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier and Reece James are now ahead of him in Gareth Southgateís pecking order.
The two sides of Alexander-Arnoldís game were perfectly illustrated in the two halves on Realís training ground. As poor as his defending was, his attacking in the second half was sublime.

It was no surprise that he started the move that saw Mohamed Salah score a vital away goal to take back to Anfield next week. He then hit a volley to set up a chance for Diogo Jota, executed with perfect pace and flight. It was difficult to see another full-back in Europe pulling off such a pass. 

Perhaps he needs to be in midfield, dictating the play rather than having one eye on the opposition forwards. Philipp Lahm did it later in his career when Pep Guardiola realised the football brain his left-back possessed. Most have seen by now that Alexander-Arnold can play in a more advanced position. Jurgen Klopp could have the next Gareth Bale, circa 2012, on his hands.

They left the joke till the last line.

Why? They should have gone back earlier in terms of years, but Bale started out at Southampton and Spurs as an attacking, creative left back who was also fairly handy at frees.

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« Reply #47570 on: April 07, 2021, 03:36:32 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/04/06/trent-alexander-arnolds-night-forget-madrid-could-spell-end/

In the moments when Liverpool were in the opposition half at Estadio Alfredo Di Stefano, Trent Alexander-Arnold found himself in central midfield trying to pick passes around an impenetrable wall of white.

There is still the potential for one of Englandís finest talents to end up further advanced, like his hero Steven Gerrard. At 22, he has the ability to set the pace of games. His crossing is as good as any winger in the Premier League, with his delivery at the Emirates Stadium last weekend a case in point.   

It is his defending that saw him dropped from the England squad and why Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier and Reece James are now ahead of him in Gareth Southgateís pecking order.
The two sides of Alexander-Arnoldís game were perfectly illustrated in the two halves on Realís training ground. As poor as his defending was, his attacking in the second half was sublime.

It was no surprise that he started the move that saw Mohamed Salah score a vital away goal to take back to Anfield next week. He then hit a volley to set up a chance for Diogo Jota, executed with perfect pace and flight. It was difficult to see another full-back in Europe pulling off such a pass. 

Perhaps he needs to be in midfield, dictating the play rather than having one eye on the opposition forwards. Philipp Lahm did it later in his career when Pep Guardiola realised the football brain his left-back possessed. Most have seen by now that Alexander-Arnold can play in a more advanced position. Jurgen Klopp could have the next Gareth Bale, circa 2012, on his hands.

They left the joke till the last line.

Why? They should have gone back earlier in terms of years, but Bale started out at Southampton and Spurs as an attacking, creative left back who was also fairly handy at frees.

He has a lot of development to do before he would be fit to lace the boots of Gareth Bale.

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« Reply #47571 on: April 07, 2021, 03:45:11 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/04/06/trent-alexander-arnolds-night-forget-madrid-could-spell-end/

In the moments when Liverpool were in the opposition half at Estadio Alfredo Di Stefano, Trent Alexander-Arnold found himself in central midfield trying to pick passes around an impenetrable wall of white.

There is still the potential for one of Englandís finest talents to end up further advanced, like his hero Steven Gerrard. At 22, he has the ability to set the pace of games. His crossing is as good as any winger in the Premier League, with his delivery at the Emirates Stadium last weekend a case in point.   

It is his defending that saw him dropped from the England squad and why Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier and Reece James are now ahead of him in Gareth Southgateís pecking order.
The two sides of Alexander-Arnoldís game were perfectly illustrated in the two halves on Realís training ground. As poor as his defending was, his attacking in the second half was sublime.

It was no surprise that he started the move that saw Mohamed Salah score a vital away goal to take back to Anfield next week. He then hit a volley to set up a chance for Diogo Jota, executed with perfect pace and flight. It was difficult to see another full-back in Europe pulling off such a pass. 

Perhaps he needs to be in midfield, dictating the play rather than having one eye on the opposition forwards. Philipp Lahm did it later in his career when Pep Guardiola realised the football brain his left-back possessed. Most have seen by now that Alexander-Arnold can play in a more advanced position. Jurgen Klopp could have the next Gareth Bale, circa 2012, on his hands.

They left the joke till the last line.

Why? They should have gone back earlier in terms of years, but Bale started out at Southampton and Spurs as an attacking, creative left back who was also fairly handy at frees.

He has a lot of development to do before he would be fit to lace the boots of Gareth Bale.

Trent is around the age Bale was when he was moved out of leftback and made his mark at Champions League level.

Which was the writer's point.


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« Reply #47572 on: April 07, 2021, 03:49:06 PM »
Bale had the pace of a World Class athlete.

Trent does not. Although he's probably a better "player".

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« Reply #47573 on: April 07, 2021, 03:50:54 PM »
Bale had the pace of a World Class athlete.

Trent does not. Although he's probably a better "player".

He was good last night i will give you that much  ;D

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« Reply #47574 on: April 07, 2021, 03:56:01 PM »
Maybe not as good with his head  ;)

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« Reply #47575 on: Today at 03:06:48 PM »
Not a word of any of this when he was the best RB in the world the last few years. Sensationalism.

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« Reply #47576 on: Today at 03:44:59 PM »
Not a word of any of this when he was the best RB in the world the last few years. Sensationalism.

Maybe it's sensationalism to think he was the best right back in the world

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« Reply #47577 on: Today at 03:51:08 PM »
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« Reply #47578 on: Today at 03:52:38 PM »
Not a word of any of this when he was the best RB in the world the last few years. Sensationalism.

Maybe it's sensationalism to think he was the best right back in the world

He's definitely a very gifted player but he does at times have a very questionable attitude and when things aren't going really well his positional sense can be found wanting. Definitely not the best RB in the world the last few years.

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« Reply #47579 on: Today at 03:56:49 PM »
Sickening game sometimes.

How the f**k can they be losing that match?

Playing fairly well, with Villa are all over the shop at the back, trying to hand them the match, but confidence up front is so shot they canít take advantage.