Author Topic: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - World and Premier League Champs  (Read 4298378 times)

laoislad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11551
    • View Profile
Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson has won the Football Writers' Association Men's Footballer of the Year award.
Fantastic for him, and well deserved, would walk into any team in the league.
Captain of the best team in the world.
Champions 2020

thewobbler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4343
    • View Profile
    • Balllyholland Harps GAC
Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson has won the Football Writers' Association Men's Footballer of the Year award.
Fantastic for him, and well deserved, would walk into any team in the league.
Captain of the best team in the world.


He might be captain of the “best team in the world”, but I’m not sure Henderson gets much game time at City, Spurs, Chelsea, Man Utd or Wolves. He might be an intrinsic part of Liverpool’s system but he has average technique and average athleticism, so I’m not sure how many managers would build him into their system.

Argue against that all you like. He’s a decent spud. But he’s an average player.

brokencrossbar1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8634
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46472 on: July 26, 2020, 03:34:19 PM »
I once recall Eric Cantona calling Didier Deschamps, captain of the french World Cup winning team, the ‘water carrier’.  All great teams have a water carrier. Jordan is our water carrier. Happy for him to be

thewobbler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4343
    • View Profile
    • Balllyholland Harps GAC
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46473 on: July 26, 2020, 03:45:57 PM »
I once recall Eric Cantona calling Didier Deschamps, captain of the french World Cup winning team, the ‘water carrier’.  All great teams have a water carrier. Jordan is our water carrier. Happy for him to be

Absolutely correct. And when you hear the silly money being discussed for Dier a few years ago and Declan Rice last year, there is a desire among managers to get one into their teams. Henderson is the same level of player as those two.

But when some Scouse fans become insistent that he is a quality player, they’re wrong. He’s okay. Nothing more, nothing less.

laoislad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11551
    • View Profile
Champions 2020

gallsman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8339
  • Retired
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46475 on: July 26, 2020, 04:40:07 PM »
I once recall Eric Cantona calling Didier Deschamps, captain of the french World Cup winning team, the ‘water carrier’.  All great teams have a water carrier. Jordan is our water carrier. Happy for him to be

Absolutely, which is why Deschamps won three FIFA World player of the year awards unlike a superior footballer such as, say Zinedine Zidane  ::) ::) ::)

I don't think many would dispute Henderson's role and importance to Liverpool this year, but trying to pretend he's been better than Mané, TAA or VVD is laughable.
"Never mind your why. Why ain't in your repetoire no more n***a"

laoislad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11551
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46476 on: July 26, 2020, 06:10:07 PM »
Nice to end off the season with another routine win.
99 points in total.
3rd and 4th place teams are nearer to relegated Bournemouth in terms of points than they are to Liverpool. ;D
Roll on next season,next year is our year (again)
Champions 2020

02

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 140
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46477 on: July 26, 2020, 06:42:29 PM »
Nice to end off the season with another routine win.
99 points in total.
3rd and 4th place teams are nearer to relegated Bournemouth in terms of points than they are to Liverpool. ;D
Roll on next season,next year is our year (again)

What a collapse from Leicester! Utd are starting to get their act together.
O'Neills Therapist

Armamike

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1640
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46478 on: July 26, 2020, 09:57:47 PM »
Henderson is well deserving of any awards coming his way this season. Henderson is the driving force behind a team that has blitzed all before it in the league this season. That should be recognised.  But couldn't have argued if the award had gone to any of Mane, VVD, Trent, Robertson or De Bruyne either.
From doubters to believers.

ned

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 530
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46479 on: July 28, 2020, 07:03:29 AM »
Henderson is well deserving of any awards coming his way this season. Henderson is the driving force behind a team that has blitzed all before it in the league this season. That should be recognised.  But couldn't have argued if the award had gone to any of Mane, VVD, Trent, Robertson or De Bruyne either.

Some comments about Henderson are simply nuts. Of course he's not the most skilful or talented player in the league but very much a vital and influential player in the Liverpool team who have excelled these past two years. He has consistently done the job he's made for, better than any other player in that position. FFS football is about a team. Liverpool are not quite the same without Henderson. It's how it works, different types and styles of players for different positions. VVD was an essential buy for the defence, without him the last two years success would not happen. Firmino doesn't score like Mane or Salah but the other two need him to function as well as they do. Henderson is that vital cog, the fulcrum of one of Liverpool's best teams. Chances are, if you ask teammates about the best player they've played with he would be near the top.

Armamike

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1640
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46480 on: July 28, 2020, 10:02:53 AM »
Spot on.
From doubters to believers.

Estimator

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1262
  • St. Colm's Ballinascreen
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46481 on: July 29, 2020, 11:41:08 AM »
Henderson is well deserving of any awards coming his way this season. Henderson is the driving force behind a team that has blitzed all before it in the league this season. That should be recognised.  But couldn't have argued if the award had gone to any of Mane, VVD, Trent, Robertson or De Bruyne either.

Some comments about Henderson are simply nuts. Of course he's not the most skilful or talented player in the league but very much a vital and influential player in the Liverpool team who have excelled these past two years. He has consistently done the job he's made for, better than any other player in that position. FFS football is about a team. Liverpool are not quite the same without Henderson. It's how it works, different types and styles of players for different positions. VVD was an essential buy for the defence, without him the last two years success would not happen. Firmino doesn't score like Mane or Salah but the other two need him to function as well as they do. Henderson is that vital cog, the fulcrum of one of Liverpool's best teams. Chances are, if you ask teammates about the best player they've played with he would be near the top.

I'd still suggest that if you set up a  poll of Liverpool fans only. With the question regarding which Liverpool player would you not want missing 10/12 games next season. Henderson would probably end up 5th behind Allison, VvD, Mane & Salah. Maybe even 7th behind TAA and Robertson. I wouldn't say Liverpool are weaker when he isn't in the side, but they definitely are weaker without the first 4 names mentioned.
Ulster League Champions 2009

supersub

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2318
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46482 on: July 29, 2020, 11:57:54 PM »
Henderson is well deserving of any awards coming his way this season. Henderson is the driving force behind a team that has blitzed all before it in the league this season. That should be recognised.  But couldn't have argued if the award had gone to any of Mane, VVD, Trent, Robertson or De Bruyne either.

Some comments about Henderson are simply nuts. Of course he's not the most skilful or talented player in the league but very much a vital and influential player in the Liverpool team who have excelled these past two years. He has consistently done the job he's made for, better than any other player in that position. FFS football is about a team. Liverpool are not quite the same without Henderson. It's how it works, different types and styles of players for different positions. VVD was an essential buy for the defence, without him the last two years success would not happen. Firmino doesn't score like Mane or Salah but the other two need him to function as well as they do. Henderson is that vital cog, the fulcrum of one of Liverpool's best teams. Chances are, if you ask teammates about the best player they've played with he would be near the top.

I'd still suggest that if you set up a  poll of Liverpool fans only. With the question regarding which Liverpool player would you not want missing 10/12 games next season. Henderson would probably end up 5th behind Allison, VvD, Mane & Salah. Maybe even 7th behind TAA and Robertson. I wouldn't say Liverpool are weaker when he isn't in the side, but they definitely are weaker without the first 4 names mentioned.

Having watched every game this season, they were absolutely weaker without him. He more or less allows those more advanced players you mention to do their thing.

Gabriel_Hurl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8074
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46483 on: July 30, 2020, 04:06:09 PM »
I still maintain him getting sent off in the 93rd minute for a stupid foul against City in the 2013-14 season cost us the league that season.

quit yo jibbajabba

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1946
    • View Profile
Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Champions of Everything™
« Reply #46484 on: July 30, 2020, 04:32:22 PM »
Agreed Gabriel. Def didnt help thats for sure