The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

SHEEDY · May 04, 2020, 08:59:53 PM

Quote from: laoislad on May 04, 2020, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 04, 2020, 08:11:45 PM
Liverpool FC:
Want to abandon the Women's Super League over safety fears.
Want to complete the men's Premier League season in its entirety.
Guess which one they are bottom of?
I give up, which one?

but, but, but.....what about Integrity?

RedHand88 · May 04, 2020, 10:11:32 PM

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 04, 2020, 08:41:00 PM
Do Everton play the same team in both leagues chap?

I think they got the teams mixed up this year.

J70 · May 04, 2020, 10:54:50 PM

Liverpool FC doesn't really give two fucks about the women's team. Basically an afterthought. The poor relations.

The Athletic had a piece on it recently, covering all the talent they've let go, while the conditions they've been playing in at Tranmere were the subject of a pile of criticism within women's football this winter. They're not making the move to the new Kirkby facility either.

So it's not that surprising that the club wouldn't put much effort into finishing out their season, especially when they're bottom.

Ambrose · May 07, 2020, 02:20:02 AM

A year ago tonight, we were 3-0 down to Barca. I'd been to the first leg and in all honesty didn't give us much of a chance. Arrived home at half time and we were only 1-0 up. The rest as they say is history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buoMlAshKXQ

Armamike · May 07, 2020, 11:35:52 AM

What a night.

Capt Pat · May 11, 2020, 11:07:50 PM

So the season can't be declared null and void according to the FA. There must be relegation and promotion decided on sporting merit. That means liverpool are almost certain to become champions whether games are played or not.

NAG1 · May 12, 2020, 08:21:28 AM

Can't wait to see that tested in a court of law.

It's a total mess, there is no way that clubs who would be relegated through this would stand for it, legal actions left right and centre. Which no doubt would hold up the start of the new season with all sorts of injunctions going on.

The only way that this could work, would be to offer the three relegated clubs a financial package akin to that which they would be on had they remained in the PL, outside of the normal parachute payments.

Other than this i don't see it as workable.

It will be tough for fans to swallow but I just cant see how champions or relegated teams can be nominated.

Also think it is madness to be thinking about completing the season when we have already seen a break down in the will of people to adhere to the social constraints already in place. Nothing to do with rivalry, it is bigger than football at the moment.

Armamike · May 12, 2020, 10:36:22 AM

It seems that every option that is put to the null and voiders group is unworkable. I wonder why? There are risks in returning to football behind closed doors. Will be interesting to see how it pans out in Germany. But football will have to start up again at some point in the coming months (for many reasons), and that will mean playing behind closed doors. In that case it would be totally illogical to start a new season behind closed doors without finishing the current one. If clubs have an issue with moving to a new model to complete the current season then the only other option is conclude on PPG. To null and void it would be punishing success and rewarding failure and playing into the hands of a small number of opportunistic self interested parties.

SHEEDY · May 12, 2020, 12:05:23 PM

Quote from: Armamike on May 12, 2020, 10:36:22 AM
It seems that every option that is put to the null and voiders group is unworkable. I wonder why? There are risks in returning to football behind closed doors. Will be interesting to see how it pans out in Germany. But football will have to start up again at some point in the coming months (for many reasons), and that will mean playing behind closed doors. In that case it would be totally illogical to start a new season behind closed doors without finishing the current one. If clubs have an issue with moving to a new model to complete the current season then the only other option is conclude on PPG. To null and void it would be punishing success and rewarding failure and playing into the hands of a small number of opportunistic self interested parties.

the only option to get this season finished is to scrap this idea of neutral venues and bring back home and away fixtures. The stumbling block is that it doesn't look likely government or police are going to allow this. At the minute there doesn't seem to be the will or the push to get the season going by a lot of clubs and players.
The financial threat might be enough to sway some clubs but as the days go by it looks less likely we'll be seeing more football, next few days there needs to be some sort of firm dates and plans to get going again

glens73 · May 12, 2020, 01:11:33 PM

It might be a problem contract wise (players, TV, etc), but couldn't next season be suspended and this season resumed instead of it, assuming fans can get back in the grounds, from 1 March next year. It's not looking likely that stadiums will be allowed fans in this calendar year.

supersub · May 13, 2020, 12:19:05 AM

Quote from: SHEEDY on May 12, 2020, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Armamike on May 12, 2020, 10:36:22 AM
It seems that every option that is put to the null and voiders group is unworkable. I wonder why? There are risks in returning to football behind closed doors. Will be interesting to see how it pans out in Germany. But football will have to start up again at some point in the coming months (for many reasons), and that will mean playing behind closed doors. In that case it would be totally illogical to start a new season behind closed doors without finishing the current one. If clubs have an issue with moving to a new model to complete the current season then the only other option is conclude on PPG. To null and void it would be punishing success and rewarding failure and playing into the hands of a small number of opportunistic self interested parties.
the only option to get this season finished is to scrap this idea of neutral venues and bring back home and away fixtures. The stumbling block is that it doesn't look likely government or police are going to allow this. At the minute there doesn't seem to be the will or the push to get the season going by a lot of clubs and players.
The financial threat might be enough to sway some clubs but as the days go by it looks less likely we'll be seeing more football, next few days there needs to be some sort of firm dates and plans to get going again

Appreciate your sentiments but a lot of generalisations in there. The only option is not to solely have home and away fixtures. If it was, I am sure it would have been on the cards by now. Nothing is going to be perfect in this, and no one will get what they want. Whether it be home or way advantage from CL spot chasers, relegation fighters or lifting the trophy in front of fans for the winners. In addition to this you say there doesn't seem to be the will or push by a lot of clubs or players, how do you know? Everything has been kept highly confidential from the PL meetings. The only scraps we have to go on is a few players here and there saying they don't want to restart under current proposals, as well as a couple of clubs. The opinion of a couple who have been outspoken in the media does not mean the majority do not want it to happen. You are basing an opinion on a very small percentage.

Milltown Row2 · May 13, 2020, 08:43:39 AM

I haven't heard that many (if any) looking to play under the current set up being purposed.

If a player were to get the virus, he could possibly end up with a career ending illness. Now that's an extreme chance of course, but would you risk it?

rodney trotter · May 13, 2020, 08:53:46 AM

Read yesterday that black people are 4 times more likely to die from Covid 19, then white people. Why would black players bother putting themselves at risk?
Danny Rose came out strong against returning.

Maroon Manc · May 13, 2020, 09:34:56 AM

Quote from: rodney trotter on May 13, 2020, 08:53:46 AM
Read yesterday that black people are 4 times more likely to die from Covid 19, then white people. Why would black players bother putting themselves at risk?
Danny Rose came out strong against returning.

Danny Rose seems to have a problem with everything. There's very few healthy black males under 35 dying, as of last Thursday there were 322 deaths in people aged under 45 and the vast majority of those had underlying health issues.

Armamike · May 13, 2020, 09:42:10 AM

There are risks to players' careers every time they take to the pitch. If we want to wait to return when there's no risk then we're talking about waiting for a vaccine which may not arrive until next summer, if at all. Is it realistic to put football (and life) on hold until then? Behind closed doors football is going to have to happen at some stage within the next few months, otherwise we're looking at a lot of clubs (including those in the PL) getting into serious financial difficulties. There will be lots of hurdles on the way, but it has to happen. We only get to hear one side of it in the media at the moment. There's very little coming out from clubs outside the bottom six.