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markl121

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44640 on: November 27, 2019, 10:01:04 PM »
That was fairly shite all round. Crowd flat, performance flat.

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« Reply #44641 on: November 27, 2019, 10:06:12 PM »
Could have been worse. Have got away with Blue Murder in the Premiership the last couple of weeks.

This luck has not been carrying into the Champions League.


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« Reply #44642 on: November 27, 2019, 10:14:40 PM »
That was fairly shite all round. Crowd flat, performance flat.

Why was that? Anfield is normally full of voice for those champions league games.

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« Reply #44643 on: November 27, 2019, 10:18:48 PM »
Frustrating night alright. A draw will do the next day but would have been nice to qualify tonight.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44644 on: November 27, 2019, 10:21:52 PM »
That was fairly shite all round. Crowd flat, performance flat.

Why was that? Anfield is normally full of voice for those champions league games.

Tonight was not a do or die! And besides - the priority of the average Liverpool fan is the Premier League.

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« Reply #44645 on: November 27, 2019, 10:33:19 PM »
That was fairly shite all round. Crowd flat, performance flat.



Why was that? Anfield is normally full of voice for those champions league games.

Tonight was not a do or die! And besides - the priority of the average Liverpool fan is the Premier League.

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« Reply #44646 on: November 27, 2019, 10:36:49 PM »
Why did TAA not start?

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« Reply #44647 on: November 28, 2019, 09:06:22 AM »
Could have been worse. Have got away with Blue Murder in the Premiership the last couple of weeks.

This luck has not been carrying into the Champions League.


They've kept going in the premier league matches right till the end, pushing for the win.  Did the same last night, but couldn't manage to get the winner. It can happen.  Salzberg will be tricky but they'll be more open than Napoli (who are a good side) and that should leave a bit more space for the front 3.
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« Reply #44648 on: November 28, 2019, 09:12:21 AM »
Why did TAA not start?
I reckon he didnt start because klopp sees gomez as a more solid defensive option. Not sure i agree. Also he probably tried to give trent a rest but id rather we start strong and get the game finished then make the changes.

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« Reply #44649 on: November 28, 2019, 09:37:39 AM »
Could have been worse. Have got away with Blue Murder in the Premiership the last couple of weeks.

This luck has not been carrying into the Champions League.


They've kept going in the premier league matches right till the end, pushing for the win.  Did the same last night, but couldn't manage to get the winner. It can happen.  Salzberg will be tricky but they'll be more open than Napoli (who are a good side) and that should leave a bit more space for the front 3.

Disappointing not to get the qualification sorted yesterday. Salzburg are a decent side so will need the main men playing. Hopefully Fabinho not too serious albeit he would have missed this weekend anyway with suspension.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44650 on: November 28, 2019, 04:10:56 PM »
Duckenfield not guilty. Still no justice

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« Reply #44651 on: November 28, 2019, 08:07:43 PM »
Duckenfield not guilty. Still no justice
Manslaughter was always going to be a very high bar to pin on one individual responsible for policing when inadequate structural facilities and safety planning also contributed to some degree.

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« Reply #44652 on: November 28, 2019, 08:12:33 PM »
Duckenfield not guilty. Still no justice
Manslaughter was always going to be a very high bar to pin on one individual responsible for policing when inadequate structural facilities and safety planning also contributed to some degree.
Fair point, but 96 people died and nobody in authority can be held accountable?!

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« Reply #44653 on: November 28, 2019, 08:26:41 PM »
Good old fashioned British "justice"

Nothing ever changes

The powerful and connected are protected and the ordinary people are screwed

For Hilllsborough, read Bloody Sunday, and it'll be Grenfell next, no doubt

And we're no better in Ireland, given the way the Stardust was covered up, this new inquiry won't bring justice either

The Johnny Mercers of this world will now find some way to try and make Duckenfield a "victim" in all this, no doubt

It absolutely stinks

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« Reply #44654 on: November 28, 2019, 09:00:01 PM »
Duckenfield not guilty. Still no justice
Manslaughter was always going to be a very high bar to pin on one individual responsible for policing when inadequate structural facilities and safety planning also contributed to some degree.
Fair point, but 96 people died and nobody in authority can be held accountable?!

Yes, but manslaughter is the wrong charge in crowd control situations involving thousands of people where many people die in tragic circumstances.  The defence can simply point to hundreds of other football games from the time where similar policing policy was followed  and no-one died. Thus the bar of foresight of consequences of actions AND gross negligence are almost impossible to prove. The result is the families feel that the authorities have been vindicated which is not the case.

A criminal charge similar to the civil charge of death due to negligence would be more appropriate which finds that negligent behaviour (not gross negligence) by police or persons of authority leads to death, regardless as to whether they could have reasonably foreseen the deaths.  Such a conviction, even if custodial sentences did not necessarily follow would leave families feeling vindicated, unlike today.