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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44430 on: November 04, 2019, 02:13:12 AM »


I think what had some going mad was that the live coverage (which was on here in the US) showed the VAR officials (supposedly Atkinson, who is not exactly flavour of the month with Anfield followers!) mucking about with the placement of the lines. The first go around had Firmino onside, then they started playing around with it, which changed it to off.

This may well be the way its done with every offside, and I honestly didn't think much about it during the actual game. (I may be wrong, but did they not do similar playing with the placement for the Son one against Leicester, moving him from "onside" to off as they adjusted it?)

Andy Gray was going apeshit about the Firmino one on whatever channel he is currently employed by (BEin?).

Did you read the link provided above?
https://twitter.com/dalejohnsonespn/status/1191042293081530368?s=12
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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44431 on: November 04, 2019, 03:27:17 AM »
It's a mess.  It was sold as consistency, but once you have refs in the VAR room, whose opinion on fouls differ, it can't be consistent. 

There were two instances in Everton/Spurs that involved defenders trying to kick the ball, but getting the attacker's leg first.  Son for the Spurs incident and the Brazilian lad for Everton.  Neither given, but both as much pennos as the Mane one last week. 

Watching Everton Spurs today, it was ridiculous; VAR kept interrupting the game for long periods, and according to the commentators, certain angles that the viewer could see were not available to VAR refs. 

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44432 on: November 04, 2019, 08:09:45 AM »
He's clearly onside and a huge error was made by who ever was looking at VAR. In the end it didn't matter as the mentality monsters pulled it out of the bag once more. It must be sickening for all the ABLs that Liverpool keep doing it week after week.
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« Reply #44433 on: November 04, 2019, 08:59:05 AM »
He's clearly onside and a huge error was made by who ever was looking at VAR. In the end it didn't matter as the mentality monsters pulled it out of the bag once more. It must be sickening for all the ABLs that Liverpool keep doing it week after week.
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It was unclear as far as I am concerned hence the reason why I am ok with sticking with the onfield decision. TV angles etc can be misleading but you would hope the refs have the technology to properly calibrate it.

The Spurs game was a farce. Son's red card is a disgrace and I would hope will be overturned on appeal. The Delle Alli non handball seems bizzare given the new "interpretaion" of the rules. If someone can explain the difference between Watford's penalty and the non penalties yesterday good luck.

I had previously said that VAR should only be used for matters of fact i.e. offside (ironic given Saturday's game but I think that was a really tight call which will not always be the case), ball out of play etc. As soon as you bring in subjectivity and start looking at things in Slow mo it becomes a nightmare and the delay/apprehension for fans when a goal is scored is really hurting the game as a spectacle.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44434 on: November 04, 2019, 09:33:54 AM »
He's clearly onside and a huge error was made by who ever was looking at VAR. In the end it didn't matter as the mentality monsters pulled it out of the bag once more. It must be sickening for all the ABLs that Liverpool keep doing it week after week.
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He's not clearly onside any more than he's clearly offside that's the whole problem with VAR. Im not surprised to find that u think he's onside though with ur rose tinted specs  ;D

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44436 on: November 04, 2019, 10:37:27 AM »


I think what had some going mad was that the live coverage (which was on here in the US) showed the VAR officials (supposedly Atkinson, who is not exactly flavour of the month with Anfield followers!) mucking about with the placement of the lines. The first go around had Firmino onside, then they started playing around with it, which changed it to off.

This may well be the way its done with every offside, and I honestly didn't think much about it during the actual game. (I may be wrong, but did they not do similar playing with the placement for the Son one against Leicester, moving him from "onside" to off as they adjusted it?)

Andy Gray was going apeshit about the Firmino one on whatever channel he is currently employed by (BEin?).

Did you read the link provided above?
https://twitter.com/dalejohnsonespn/status/1191042293081530368?s=12

I had not read it, no.

Now I have.

Is that the official protocol?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44437 on: November 04, 2019, 11:17:02 AM »
Supposedly!

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« Reply #44438 on: November 04, 2019, 04:38:37 PM »
VAR is shit, and I hate it.

But what I hate most is how Liverpool fans in particular seems to have latched onto bleeding it to death as a topic of conversation. Every last decision involving them goes through a week-long microscope of super slow-mo, “new” angles, charts, diagrams, rules, interpretations of rules, and case history. All of this delivered with an unashamed and belligerent bias.

Lads you can’t can’t change the decisions after a match. Just leave it alone ffs.

Are you talking about Liverpool fans on here or 'in general'?  Supporters tend to be a bit blinkered but it's the number of pundits calling out this particular decision. 

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44439 on: November 05, 2019, 05:21:16 PM »
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Liverpool will field different teams in two separate competitions within 24 hours after the EFL announced the date of their Carabao Cup quarter-final with Aston Villa will not be changed.

The Reds will play at Villa on 17 December at 19:45 GMT and will compete in the Club World Cup semi-final in Qatar the following day at 17:30 GMT.

Manager Jurgen Klopp had ruled out the prospect of playing both fixtures.

But the EFL said keeping the date followed a "request from the club".

A Liverpool statement said: "We would like to thank the EFL for their efforts to accommodate us and we can confirm alternative dates were discussed, but ultimately none were considered suitable without compromising the scheduling of the competition itself or placing an undue strain on our playing staff.

"As a result, we will be utilising two playing squads simultaneously, with one squad participating in the Fifa Club World Cup in Qatar and another in the Carabao Cup.

"The club would like to take this opportunity to underline that while this is not an ideal scenario, it is an outcome which was arrived at with the best interests of the competition, our fellow clubs and ourselves as the sole motivating factor."

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44440 on: November 05, 2019, 05:57:43 PM »
The semi final in the club world cup is against one of the supposedly weaker confederations. I wonder would they leave some players back for the Villa game that they would then fly out to Qatar for the final on Saturday.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44441 on: November 05, 2019, 09:58:14 PM »
Win and a Napoli draw - now top of the group. A good night's work.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44442 on: November 05, 2019, 10:06:46 PM »
Win and a Napoli draw - now top of the group. A good night's work.

Going at about 60%. Far from convincing tonight, and the last few weeks to be honest. Sunday will tell a lot.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44443 on: November 05, 2019, 10:19:57 PM »
Win and a Napoli draw - now top of the group. A good night's work.

Going at about 60%. Far from convincing tonight, and the last few weeks to be honest. Sunday will tell a lot.

If you look at our Position in the League and the Champions League and the League Cup, you'd seem to think we were flying.  :P

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Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Reply #44444 on: November 05, 2019, 10:42:15 PM »
The sign of champions, winning ugly tight games, lap it up.
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