The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[AZOffaly]

I'm wary of goalkeepers from smaller clubs. If Darren Randolph makes a mistake for West Ham, it's forgotten about by Monday . If Darren Randolph makes a mistake for Liverpool, he has every paper in the UK, and all online forums on his back. He looks like he could be a good keeper, but he has let in some soft enough ones, and I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Mignolet or Karius.

[Taylor]

Hart? Jesus wept.

Some lads are great at telling you who's shít, shouldn't be playing and so forth but are mostly reticent to nail their colours to the mast in who they'd have in place, so it would be interesting who Stallion and Taylor would have as manager, goalkeeper and what other players they'd like to buy in with being realistic about it.

Hart? Jesus wept.
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Have to disagree reg Harte. He is infinitely better than what is currently at Anfield and if he was still at City they would be in a much stronger position to challenge for the title.
Schmeichel wouldnt be a patch on his 'oul fella and I would rate him well below Harte
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Pretty clear I would take Harte as GK - No?

[Two Hands FFS]

I'm wary of goalkeepers from smaller clubs. If Darren Randolph makes a mistake for West Ham, it's forgotten about by Monday . If Darren Randolph makes a mistake for Liverpool, he has every paper in the UK, and all online forums on his back. He looks like he could be a good keeper, but he has let in some soft enough ones, and I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Mignolet or Karius.

I agree about Randolph. Mignolet was good with Sunderland but hasn't been good enough for Liverpool. The problem is finding one these days as think the standard of goalkeeping isn't great worldwide and the top clubs understandably don't want to let there's go.

[Bord na Mona man]

Keepers at weaker clubs have to deal with a lot more clean shots and one-on-ones where their defence has gone AWOL. There is more scope for them to look like heroes.
At better clubs, the chances conceded are usually more random and off toe pokes, knock downs, deflections and maybe a bit of mesmeric interplay to unlock a tight defence. So reaction and judgement come into it a lot more.

I'm not convinced Randolph keeps his bearings that well in a defensive scramble. I've seen him a couple of times drifting into a bad position when the ball was pinging around a bit.
Even after applying all the caveats, I think Tom Heaton would be a good signing for Liverpool.

[AZOffaly]

Keepers at weaker clubs have to deal with a lot more clean shots and one-on-ones where their defence has gone AWOL. There is more scope for them to look like heroes.
At better clubs, the chances conceded are usually more random and off toe pokes, knock downs, deflections and maybe a bit of mesmeric interplay to unlock a tight defence. So reaction and judgement come into it a lot more.

I'm not convinced Randolph keeps his bearings that well in a defensive scramble. I've seen him a couple of times drifting into a bad position when the ball was pinging around a bit.
Even after applying all the caveats, I think Tom Heaton would be a good signing for Liverpool.

Shot stopping is great, and very important. Mignolet is actually a good shot stopper, but I would place a premium on a goalkeeper who dominates the area. Crosses, corners, free kicks. Someone who lets out a roar, comes and is physically strong enough to claim the ball. If you had a fella that could do that, and then save the shots you would expect him to save, I'd be happy with that.

A lot of managers seem to prefer this sweeper keeper type, who's good with his feet. I prefer a goalie who is good with his hands.

[johnneycool]

Hart? Jesus wept.

Some lads are great at telling you who's shít, shouldn't be playing and so forth but are mostly reticent to nail their colours to the mast in who they'd have in place, so it would be interesting who Stallion and Taylor would have as manager, goalkeeper and what other players they'd like to buy in with being realistic about it.

Hart? Jesus wept.

Have to disagree reg Harte. He is infinitely better than what is currently at Anfield and if he was still at City they would be in a much stronger position to challenge for the title.
Schmeichel wouldnt be a patch on his 'oul fella and I would rate him well below Harte
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Pretty clear I would take Harte as GK - No?
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Anyone else you'd like at Anfield, manager and so forth and don't be saying Messi or some other nonsense?

[magpie seanie]

Keepers at weaker clubs have to deal with a lot more clean shots and one-on-ones where their defence has gone AWOL. There is more scope for them to look like heroes.
At better clubs, the chances conceded are usually more random and off toe pokes, knock downs, deflections and maybe a bit of mesmeric interplay to unlock a tight defence. So reaction and judgement come into it a lot more.

I'm not convinced Randolph keeps his bearings that well in a defensive scramble. I've seen him a couple of times drifting into a bad position when the ball was pinging around a bit.
Even after applying all the caveats, I think Tom Heaton would be a good signing for Liverpool.

Shot stopping is great, and very important. Mignolet is actually a good shot stopper, but I would place a premium on a goalkeeper who dominates the area. Crosses, corners, free kicks. Someone who lets out a roar, comes and is physically strong enough to claim the ball. If you had a fella that could do that, and then save the shots you would expect him to save, I'd be happy with that.

A lot of managers seem to prefer this sweeper keeper type, who's good with his feet. I prefer a goalie who is good with his hands.

You know it's a sad state of affairs when you have to make (seemingly obvious) statements like this but I agree entirely!

[Taylor]

Hart? Jesus wept.

Some lads are great at telling you who's shít, shouldn't be playing and so forth but are mostly reticent to nail their colours to the mast in who they'd have in place, so it would be interesting who Stallion and Taylor would have as manager, goalkeeper and what other players they'd like to buy in with being realistic about it.

Hart? Jesus wept.

Have to disagree reg Harte. He is infinitely better than what is currently at Anfield and if he was still at City they would be in a much stronger position to challenge for the title.
Schmeichel wouldnt be a patch on his 'oul fella and I would rate him well below Harte

Pretty clear I would take Harte as GK - No?
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Anyone else you'd like at Anfield, manager and so forth and don't be saying Messi or some other nonsense?
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Ok Johnneytool I will try my best.
Need a solid DMF who would provide cover for the defence - Yacob from West Brom would be a decent addition.

Manager is a tough on - Klopp isnt setting the world alight. To give him a 6 yr contratc is crazy

[Fuzzman]

Most neutrals enjoyed watching Liverpool in the first half of the season as they were very attack minded and scored a lot of goals from all around the team. Ye don't really use an out and out striker really unlike most teams with Sturridge being left on the scrap heap, despite finally getting fit.

However, I think your main problem is your defence and this is where I think Klopp can be held responsible.
Chelsea have scored 51 goals so far, Arsenal and Liverpool have 52 but Chelsea and Spurs have only conceded 17 and 16 respectively whereas Liverpool conceded 30 which is even more than Middlesborough. It's easy to blame your keeper but I think the back 4 (maybe not Clyne) haven't been great or don't have a Kanté or strong defensive MF who protects the back 4.

[johnneycool]

Hart? Jesus wept.

Some lads are great at telling you who's shít, shouldn't be playing and so forth but are mostly reticent to nail their colours to the mast in who they'd have in place, so it would be interesting who Stallion and Taylor would have as manager, goalkeeper and what other players they'd like to buy in with being realistic about it.

Hart? Jesus wept.

Have to disagree reg Harte. He is infinitely better than what is currently at Anfield and if he was still at City they would be in a much stronger position to challenge for the title.
Schmeichel wouldnt be a patch on his 'oul fella and I would rate him well below Harte

Pretty clear I would take Harte as GK - No?

Anyone else you'd like at Anfield, manager and so forth and don't be saying Messi or some other nonsense?
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Ok Johnneytool I will try my best.
Need a solid DMF who would provide cover for the defence - Yacob from West Brom would be a decent addition.

Manager is a tough on - Klopp isnt setting the world alight. To give him a 6 yr contratc is crazy
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So Liverpool are a goalkeeper like Hart and a DMF like Yacob away from winning a premier league title?

If not Klopp, then who?

[Taylor]

You are hard work Johnneytool.

Those 2 players would absolutely improve them - would it win the title? Not so sure but if I had the answers on how to win the PL without mentioning 'players like Messi' then I am currently in the wrong job.
Discussion board is about opinions.

Sturridge has gone downhill as much as any player in recent times - would a run in the starting team be any good to him now that he is injury free

[StGallsGAA]

Are you seriously suggesting Joe Hart isn't a better keeper than Coco the Clown Mignolet?  LMAO!   Most EPL teams would swap their current keeper for Hart plus cash if given the chance.   How many would swap for Mignolet?

[AZOffaly]

Are you seriously suggesting Joe Hart isn't a better keeper than Coco the Clown Mignolet?  LMAO!   Most EPL teams would swap their current keeper for Hart plus cash if given the chance.   How many would swap for Mignolet?

Really? If that were the case, why weren't they banging down Pep's door when he loaned Hart out? Hart of 3 or 4 years ago > than Mignolet, Hart of last year? Not so much.

[J70]

Are you seriously suggesting Joe Hart isn't a better keeper than Coco the Clown Mignolet?  LMAO!   Most EPL teams would swap their current keeper for Hart plus cash if given the chance.   How many would swap for Mignolet?

Did you watch City last year?

Did you watch England last summer?

[Minus15]

I don't know much about Hart's temperament but any City fans I know would take him back in a heartbeat. There really aren't many top goalkeepers around. Personally, I think Liverpool could do a lot worse than Hart but he wouldn't be a massive upgrade on Mignolet. It would surprise me if Klopp was to bring in a new no.1 as I still think he sees Karius as capable of stepping up.

Taylor, Claudio Yacob would not improve that Liverpool team at all. I don't see a lot of West Brom but any time Liverpool have played West Brom in recent years, he has been overrun and concedes sloppy frees.