The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

[Over the Bar]

OK how many did we win then?

[full back]

Robbie Keane however may be down the cop shop making a statement.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/09/09/crooks-target-liverpool-fc-s-robbie-keane-100252-21709087/

Thats six now...

"You robbed your own players, robbed your own players.......... while United won 10 premierships, you robbed your own players......"

Excellent pity yous did not win 10 premierships.

Whoops 

[Gabriel_Hurl]

OK how many did we win then?

you should know 

[An Fear Rua]

That link isn't working - i assued he's been robbed while on international duty?

link works fine this end

first pictures in from crime scene

[Over the Bar]

Excellent pity yous did not win 10 premierships.


OK how many did we win then?


you should know

I do.  Seems Corn02 doesn't tho...

[corn02]

Oh I know just tell me how many premierships you think you have won?

[stevo-08]

Carragher blasts 'ruthless' owners
Jamie Carragher has slammed 'ruthless' Liverpool owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett, saying he has been sickened by their broken promises.

Writing in his autobiography, Carragher accuses the American duo of buying the club solely to make a profit and he is unhappy they have failed to keep their promises of building a new stadium and pledging money for transfers.

Carragher hit out at the pair after it emerged that Hicks and Gillett could already have profited by nearly £100million each.

"For richer or poorer, we'd sold Liverpool to two ruthless businessmen who saw us as a money-making opportunity," said Carragher.

"They didn't buy Liverpool as an act of charity; they weren't intent on throwing away all the millions they'd earned over 50 years...They wanted to buy us because the planned stadium offered a chance to generate tons of cash and increase the value of the club.

"Think how many world-class players that £200million could have brought to the club. Instead if Gillett and Hicks did sell, they or their banks would make a huge profit. I felt ill thinking about it."

Carragher said the owners' worst mistake was claiming no debt would be put on the club's balance sheet but the loans used to buy the club created annual interest payments of around £30million.

"Breaking this vow set the first alarm bells ringing, the embarrassing continual changing of the stadium plans was irritating too," added Carragher.

The long-serving defender also had sympathy for the pair, however, saying Reds boss Rafa Benitez must take some of the blame for the turmoil that surrounded the club last season for publicly undermining the owners over transfers.

Following the 2007 Champions League final defeat to Milan, Benitez called on the Americans to invest more on strengthening the team and Carragher claims the Spaniard's outburst was the root of the infighting at the club last term.

"These words sparked a chain reaction that brought problems into the open, almost cost (Benitez) his job a couple of months later, riled Liverpool's owners into an ill-fated meeting with Jurgen Klinsmann, and ended Hicks' and Gillett's honeymoon with The Kop," added Carragher in Carra: My Autobiography.

"I understood why the owners were unhappy with him too. They'd been undermined by Rafa and now they were undermining him.

"It was a political rather than football battle, and although the fans wanted to see it in black and white terms, with the owners the bad guys and Rafa their hero, I saw far more shades of grey."

Jamie was a bit nieve if he thought hicks & gillette bought the club for any other reason than to make money. Also I dont think his comments about Rafa, even if he is being honest, will go down too well with the manager.

Maybe footballers should only publish their autobiography after they hang up their boots...

[magpie seanie]

Jamie was a bit nieve if he thought hicks & gillette bought the club for any other reason than to make money.

Well you can add 99% of Liverpool supporters to that so. I remember coming on here criticising Liverpool supporters for not being out protesting against the takeover by these men and wasn't giving much of a hearing. At least there was significant opposition to the Glazers taking over United right from the off.

Maybe footballers should only publish their autobiography after they hang up their boots...

100% agree with this.

[bingobus]

Jamie was a bit nieve if he thought hicks & gillette bought the club for any other reason than to make money.

Well you can add 99% of Liverpool supporters to that so. I remember coming on here criticising Liverpool supporters for not being out protesting against the takeover by these men and wasn't giving much of a hearing. At least there was significant opposition to the Glazers taking over United right from the off.

Maybe footballers should only publish their autobiography after they hang up their boots...

100% agree with this.

And that was worth the effort. 99% of those supporters will admit to having their heads stuck in the sand and taking them at their/Moores word. Big mistake, as well we know but don't think protesting would have achieved anything. Manu was a plc and there was some hope at the time, albeit very little. LFC had very little protection as the main shareholder wanted to sell. His reason for selling was that he couldn't bring the club to the next level and he wanted it in someones hands who would. DIC where in and had agreed until Moores seen the greed and took the biggest offer without doing a significant level of due dilligence on the cowboys. He was sold a pup and sold the pup onto LFC supporters. For a number of months everything was good about the deal, right noises been made by the yanks, which has quickly disappeared. Again words where cheap and action scare.

As for writing autobiographies, not been too impressed with the extracts of Carra's to date and agree that books are for retirement.

[Uladh]

Soccer players should mostly be banned from publishing autographies. full stop.

if you disgree, take a gander at ashley cole, gerarrd or one of michael owen's autobiographies

o - and Keano's is rubbish too

[Minder]

Soccer players should mostly be banned from publishing autographies. full stop.

if you disgree, take a gander at ashley cole, gerarrd or one of michael owen's autobiographies

Its about the only bit of sense that has come out of Joey Bartons mouth, " i played s*it heres my book" rant when Gerrard, Rooney Lampard et al released books around Euro 04.

[stevo-08]

Well you can add 99% of Liverpool supporters to that so. I remember coming on here criticising Liverpool supporters for not being out protesting against the takeover by these men and wasn't giving much of a hearing. At least there was significant opposition to the Glazers taking over United right from the off.

I think most Liverpool fans knew that the main reason the yanks wanted control was to make a tidy profit. They're businessmen after all. But also, most Liverpool supporters knew that we were going nowhere under Moores & Parry and would never compete in the PL. A takeover was needed if we were ever going to get near man utd or chelsea - thats why there was little protest when the club was being sold. Unfortunately for the club, as Bingobus pointed out, Moores sold it to the highest bidder instead of DIC. But I suppose everyone has 20-20 vision in hindsight...

[magpie seanie]

Unconvinced that DIC would be a lot better. They are businessmen too. They're not like the buck who took over Man City.

[Norf Tyrone]

Thought the papers were harsh today on Gerard, claiming that England looked a better side with him not in it, and that it allowed Lampard and Barry to run the show. Some even questioning his international future!

[corn02]

Unconvinced that DIC would be a lot better. They are businessmen too. They're not like the buck who took over Man City.

Bingo. You talk about 99% faloing for the Yanks, I admit to being one. People don't seem to havce learned their lesson and think DIC are just taking it over for the love of the club.

ULADH- I enjoyed Keanes book. Gerrards was a borefest. Fowlers still remains the best I have read from a footballer.