Fianna Fail/SDLP

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MW

Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on August 13, 2008, 11:24:18 PM
Sorry, you are correct. I am wrong. totally wrong. There is no bigotry in North Down and the reason why there are so few catholics there is to do with chance.

Actually, it's a legacy of the Plantation.

Don't recall saying there is "no bigotry in North Down", can you remind me where I might have said this?

Hurler on the Bitch

To take your argument back 400 years is a bit of a kop out. I'm away to bed, where I will dream of a big house in North Down.. "some of my best friends are catholics" is quite a catch phrase in Bangor. However, pleasant dreams MW.

nifan

Hurler,  of course there is bigotry in North Down as there is everywhere here. But to claim everyone left the malone road to go there due to catholics -how could you possibly know this?

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Quote from: nifan on August 13, 2008, 11:38:36 PM
Hurler,  of course there is bigotry in North Down as there is everywhere here. But to claim everyone left the malone road to go there due to catholics -how could you possibly know this?


the malone road would be majority nationalist and this is in contrast to 30/40 years ago?
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Hurler on the Bitch

Look - do not be in denial! The fact is - like New York when the the blacks (catholics) move in, the whites (protestants) move out - Belfast and beyond is segregated. NIFAN - around the beloved Windsor Park they are asking Eastern Europeans not to move into flats - who would they prefer in the Village? Catholics or Poles? (Both Fenian Bastar*s - but I feel that the Poles would win) ....

armaghniac

QuoteActually, it's a legacy of the Plantation.

Ethnic cleansing rather than simple bigotry then.
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nifan

Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on August 13, 2008, 11:46:56 PM
Look - do not be in denial! The fact is - like New York when the the blacks (catholics) move in, the whites (protestants) move out - Belfast and beyond is segregated. NIFAN - around the beloved Windsor Park they are asking Eastern Europeans not to move into flats - who would they prefer in the Village? Catholics or Poles? (Both Fenian Bastar*s - but I feel that the Poles would win) ....

Malone road is still a masivly desirable area for prods or catholics, so i dunno what you are on about, bt then i suspect you dont know either.
Obviously if an area is almost exclusivly prod then there has to be some prods move out if catholics are to move in.
Many areas of belfast are not segregated - malone road being one of them.

As for the area round windsor why on earth would i give a f**k if poles or catholics live there? And why should i prefer one over the other?

MW

Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on August 13, 2008, 11:46:56 PM
Look - do not be in denial! The fact is - like New York when the the blacks (catholics) move in, the whites (protestants) move out - Belfast and beyond is segregated. NIFAN - around the beloved Windsor Park they are asking Eastern Europeans not to move into flats - who would they prefer in the Village? Catholics or Poles? (Both Fenian Bastar*s - but I feel that the Poles would win) ....

I grew up in Bangor with a Catholic family next door. That was nearly 30 years ago. My parents moved out...ooh, never. How do you explain that?

My father came from East Belfast, then moved to Tullycarnet, then Newtownards, then Bangor - guess he must've been fleeing from the Catholics all along... ::)

MW

Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on August 13, 2008, 11:32:26 PM
To take your argument back 400 years is a bit of a kop out.

That's the reason behind North Down's demographics. Read a bit of history about the plantation of Antrim and Down.

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I'm away to bed, where I will dream of a big house in North Down.. "some of my best friends are catholics" is quite a catch phrase in Bangor. However, pleasant dreams MW.

Aye, you know a hell of a lot about people from Bangor, I'm sure.

Personally, I don't give a toss what religion my friends and loved ones are.

(Since you want to bang on about those evil bigoted middle class unionists from North Down though, why don't you google John Gorman...)

MW

Quote from: armaghniac on August 13, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
QuoteActually, it's a legacy of the Plantation.

Ethnic cleansing rather than simple bigotry then.

::)

Farrandeelin

Quote from: MW on August 15, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 13, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
QuoteActually, it's a legacy of the Plantation.

Ethnic cleansing rather than simple bigotry then.

::)

But that's what the plantations were though...
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MW

Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2008, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: MW on August 15, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 13, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
QuoteActually, it's a legacy of the Plantation.

Ethnic cleansing rather than simple bigotry then.

::)

But that's what the plantations were though...

I'm trying to talk about the present day, I'm not getting into a debate about 400 years ago on this thread.

Evil Genius

Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2008, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: MW on August 15, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 13, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
QuoteActually, it's a legacy of the Plantation.

Ethnic cleansing rather than simple bigotry then.

::)

But that's what the plantations were though...
That's right, foreigners with surnames like "Adams" and "Hume" came over here 400 years ago and seized power from the native Celts*, and they're still in power now...


* - When the Celts came to Ireland from continental Europe, does anyone know whether this was at the invitation of the people already there? Or perhaps the island was entirely uninhabited? Who knows, eh?  ::)
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Quote from: Evil Genius on August 16, 2008, 12:51:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2008, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: MW on August 15, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 13, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
QuoteActually, it's a legacy of the Plantation.

Ethnic cleansing rather than simple bigotry then.

::)

OFFS!  :-\
But that's what the plantations were though...
That's right, foreigners with surnames like "Adams" and "Hume" came over here 400 years ago and seized power from the native Celts*, and they're still in power now...


* - When the Celts came to Ireland from continental Europe, does anyone know whether this was at the invitation of the people already there? Or perhaps the island was entirely uninhabited? Who knows, eh?  ::)